News Gigabyte/ASUS/GALAX RTX 4060 Low Profile

Gingerbeer · Sep 21, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
My 4060LP arrives early next week. Excite!

According to an email from Amazon, this morning, it's being delivered tomorrow! Which is good and bad. I chose delivery to my work address, but I'm off this week. Bah, it's worth the 20 minute drive.

b_force · Sep 21, 2023

robbee said:
It's not inaudible though, like the 1800RPM I needed for my A2000.

What fan are you using for the A2000?

robbee · Sep 21, 2023

b_force said:
What fan are you using for the A2000?

My own custom copper heatsink with the two mentioned Noctua NF-A6 fans.

Gingerbeer · Sep 22, 2023

Got my 4060LP today. I did need to fit the alternate backplate for my ZS-A4DC behind the front fascia to gain the extra 3mm to make it fit, but it's in there, nice and snug.

20 mins of Heaven saw 90% fan speed and 75 degrees. A spot of undervolting brought that down to 74% fan speed and 67 degrees after looping Heaven for an hour.

It's pretty well-mannered for a small card - that fin stack with heatpipes definitely helps - most small cards I've seen have to make do with a Alu sink.

Liking it a lot, so far.

b_force · Sep 22, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
A spot of undervolting brought that down to 74% fan speed and 67 degrees after looping Heaven for an hour.

That is quite significant!
Do you have any numbers on the difference in power consumption?

Gingerbeer · Sep 22, 2023

b_force said:
That is quite significant!
Do you have any numbers on the difference in power consumption?

While looping Heaven 4.0, after undervolting, HWinfo reported max GPU power of 89 Watts, the average was around 84.

robbee · Sep 22, 2023

Turns out I had to update Afterburner to unlock proper voltage curve and custom fan profile.

Gingerbeer said:
While looping Heaven 4.0, after undervolting, HWinfo reported max GPU power of 89 Watts, the average was around 84.

I'm getting similar results. I tried lowering the power limit vs undervolting and undervolting gave the best result. 925mV and 2722MHz seemed to be the sweet spot to not loose any performance while staying stable. I deshrouded the card by now so can't compare stock fan speeds, but in this config, it was pulling about 90 watts, which was pretty much inaudible under load with my Noctua fans (1800rpm) at 76C.

msystems · Sep 22, 2023

These are incredible results, this is 100% power efficiency improvement over 3060ti and within 15% of the performance

smitty2k1 · Sep 22, 2023

What cases are everyone trying to shove one of these in?

Gingerbeer · Sep 23, 2023

smitty2k1 said:
What cases are everyone trying to shove one of these in?

robbee said:
Turns out I had to update Afterburner to unlock proper voltage curve and custom fan profile.

I'm getting similar results. I tried lowering the power limit vs undervolting and undervolting gave the best result. 925mV and 2722MHz seemed to be the sweet spot to not loose any performance while staying stable. I deshrouded the card by now so can't compare stock fan speeds, but in this config, it was pulling about 90 watts, which was pretty much inaudible under load with my Noctua fans (1800rpm) at 76C.

I considered a de-shroud on the chance that I couldn't make it fit. I might do it anyway, as I do love a spot of noctua goodness. What size fans are you running on it, a pair of 60s?

robbee · Sep 23, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
I considered a de-shroud on the chance that I couldn't make it fit. I might do it anyway, as I do love a spot of noctua goodness. What size fans are you running on it, a pair of 60s?

Yep, a pair of NF-A6's. Do note that it does make the card a lot thicker, so not all cases support it. Here's a list of some popular low profile cases that support 25mm thick fans when deshrouding:

Silverstone ML06-E
Silverstone ML09
Lazer3D CG7 Cravo
J-Hack Stratos X
J-Hack Pure MK2
ZS Cases ZS-D2
Goodisory A02
Metalfish S2
Metalfish Metal Solid
SKTC A10
My own n3rdware Yocto

b_force · Sep 23, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
While looping Heaven 4.0, after undervolting, HWinfo reported max GPU power of 89 Watts, the average was around 84.

How much is it without undervolting?

Gingerbeer · Sep 23, 2023

b_force said:
How much is it without undervolting?

Just ran through 6 loops of Heaven at stock clocks / voltage and peak reported power draw was 112W

After undervolting, my 5600G and 4060LP draw around 140W during a gaming load. The HDplex 250W GaN PSU is perfect.

Gingerbeer · Sep 23, 2023

robbee said:
Yep, a pair of NF-A6's. Do note that it does make the card a lot thicker

Yeah, I had it in my head that the A6 fans were 14mm thick. Looks like a deshroud is not on the cards at the moment, but I did squeeze a third 80mm fan in the ZS-A4DC which has improved temps and reduced fan speeds a little more.

b_force · Sep 24, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
Just ran through 6 loops of Heaven at stock clocks / voltage and peak reported power draw was 112W

After undervolting, my 5600G and 4060LP draw around 140W during a gaming load. The HDplex 250W GaN PSU is perfect.

Great to know!

That is like about roughly 20% less!

Yeah I have a 300W TFX PSU, with a 5600X.
So with some undervolting on the 4060LP that would give even a bit of headroom.

Haven't tried undervolting the 5600X yet, but I believe the older AMD cpu's weren't so happy with that?

Gingerbeer · Sep 24, 2023

b_force said:
Great to know! That is like about roughly 20% less!

Yeah I have a 300W TFX PSU, with a 5600X.
So with some undervolting on the 4060LP that would give even a bit of headroom.

Haven't tried undervolting the 5600X yet, but I believe the older AMD cpu's weren't so happy with that?

5600x should do 20-30 on the negative curve optimiser.

Snerual · Sep 25, 2023

300W is plenty to run this together with a 5600X without undervolting anything. You will never see full system draw above 220W with everything at stock.

That being said, you should still undervolt just to enjoy a quieter system for no performance loss.

Making the 4060 draw 15W less can already make a huge difference for fan curvers.
If you game at 1440p or more, you can probably run the 5600X at 45W and not see any real world performance loss.

Stifle · Sep 25, 2023

robbee said:
Yep, a pair of NF-A6's. Do note that it does make the card a lot thicker, so not all cases support it. Here's a list of some popular low profile cases that support 25mm thick fans when deshrouding:

Silverstone ML06-E

Silverstone ML09

Lazer3D CG7 Cravo

J-Hack Stratos X

J-Hack Pure MK2

ZS Cases ZS-D2

Goodisory A02

Metalfish S2

Metalfish Metal Solid

SKTC A10

My own n3rdware Yocto

LLW V36pro also works with a little shroud repositioning, needed to shorten by ~2mm and trim the power button pcb to make it fit

b_force · Sep 25, 2023

Snerual said:
If you game at 1440p or more, you can probably run the 5600X at 45W and not see any real world performance loss.

I am actually mostly still gaming on 1080p

Although that is also because I run a RX6400 atm

GucksTV · Sep 26, 2023

GucksTV said:
I've ordered it just for testing purposes, as my review of the RTX 4000 SFF with HDPLEX Gan 250W PSU will go online soon. The comparison (especially with the price in mind) will be really interesting! If you are iterested in the card after my review, I can offer you the PSU, HT5 Case and GPU in a great bundle after my review.
Kind regards

*By the way...I am from Germany (EU)

Should receive finally my unit from a German Retailer!

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