News Gigabyte/ASUS/GALAX RTX 4060 Low Profile

Snerual · Sep 19, 2023

b_force said:
Found another webshop in the EU, (Netherlands);

Megekko.nl - Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 OC Low Profile 8G Videokaart

Koop nu de Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 OC Low Profile 8G Videokaart bij Megekko. Voor 22:30 besteld, morgen in huis! Ook op zondag!

www.megekko.nl

Price: 339 euro
If a PSU is not an issue that is by far a better price than a RTX A2000.

Good news! Hopefully it appears in Germany soon as well then.

Price is great compared to a new A2000 yes, but second hand A2000 6GB can be had for close to 200EUR here so that still seems competitive price/perf wise. All A2000s should come with a 3 year manufacturers warranty.

robbee · Sep 19, 2023

Looks like this shop ships to Germany, it's expensive though: https://www.computersalg.de/i/10541226/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4060-oc-low-profile-8g

REVOCCASES · Sep 19, 2023

robbee said:
Looks like this shop ships to Germany, it's expensive though: https://www.computersalg.de/i/10541226/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4060-oc-low-profile-8g

They have very poor reviews ... I'd wait a while longer until it shows up on more well known / trusted shops

b_force · Sep 19, 2023

Snerual said:
Good news! Hopefully it appears in Germany soon as well then.

Price is great compared to a new A2000 yes, but second hand A2000 6GB can be had for close to 200EUR here so that still seems competitive price/perf wise. All A2000s should come with a 3 year manufacturers warranty.

If you're happy with the noise of a standard A2000, I guess.

Plus the additional gamble that the Ebay seller would be not screwing you over.

Including shipping, an average A2000 will be around 250-270 euro or so.
Warranty can be sometimes troublesome when being bought from a 3rd party seller.

SFFMunkee · Sep 19, 2023

b_force said:
If you're happy with the noise of a standard A2000, I guess.
Plus the additional gamble that the Ebay seller would be not screwing you over.

Including shipping, an average A2000 will be around 250-270 euro or so.
Warranty can be sometimes troublesome when being bought from a 3rd party seller.

I got my A2000 6GB for about $450 AUD (approx €272 / $290USD / £234) - add another $5 for a couple of shunt resistors, and about $30 for new thermal pads and a replacement for the noisy fan it came with... now it owes me about $500aud.

I got my 4060LP shipped from US to Australia, for approx $614AUD ($397 USD) ( €371 / £320 )

Honestly, it's not even a fair fight.
My 4060LP trounces my A2000 in every metric that matters, it's faster, it runs cooler, it's quieter (even at full fan speed), if you add DLSS3 and lower power draw to the equation then the A2000's fate is well and truly sealed.

Not an even match so barely comparable but here's a quick TimeSpy comparison for the
RTX 4000SFF (shuntmod), RTX A4000 (shuntmod), RTX A2000 (shuntmod), RX6800, RTX 3060 Ti, RTX 4060LP, RX 6600XT

Result

www.3dmark.com

SFFMunkee · Sep 19, 2023

SFFMunkee said:
I got my A2000 6GB for about $450 AUD (approx €272 / $290USD / £234) - add another $5 for a couple of shunt resistors, and about $30 for new thermal pads and a replacement for the noisy fan it came with... now it owes me about $500aud.

I got my 4060LP shipped from US to Australia, for approx $614AUD ($397 USD) ( €371 / £320 )

Honestly, it's not even a fair fight.
My 4060LP trounces my A2000 in every metric that matters, it's faster, it runs cooler, it's quieter (even at full fan speed), if you add DLSS3 and lower power draw to the equation then the A2000's fate is well and truly sealed.

Not an even match so barely comparable but here's a quick TimeSpy comparison for the
RTX 4000SFF (shuntmod), RTX A4000 (shuntmod), RTX A2000 (shuntmod), RX6800, RTX 3060 Ti, RTX 4060LP, RX 6600XT

Result

www.3dmark.com

b_force · Sep 19, 2023

SFFMunkee said:
if you add DLSS3 and lower power draw to the equation then the A2000's fate is well and truly sealed.

Lower power draw?

The total power of a 4060LP is bigger?

Speaking of which, is it possible to undervolt these things?
And more important, how significant is that?

Gingerbeer · Sep 19, 2023

SFFMunkee said:

Out of interest, do you have the stock figures for the shunt-modded cards?

My 4060LP arrives early next week. Excite!

I sold my A2000 and 3060 Ti last week - the only cards I have atm are my 3090 and a couple of low end display outs like the K620 and GT 730. Although the rig for the 4060LP does have a 5600G in there.

GucksTV · Sep 19, 2023

Found this one today in Germany:

https://www.galaxus.de/de/s1/product/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4060-oc-low-profile-8g-videokaart-grafikkarte-37955937

SFFMunkee · Sep 19, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
Out of interest, do you have the stock figures for the shunt-modded cards?

My 4060LP arrives early next week. Excite!

I sold my A2000 and 3060 Ti last week - the only cards I have atm are my 3090 and a couple of low end display outs like the K620 and GT 730. Although the rig for the 4060LP does have a 5600G in there.

Good question, I'm sure I do but whether or not I can work out which one it is..

I think this is the stock (i.e. 70W) results, 6886 graphics points, using an undervolt curve in Afterburner: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/36923825

b_force said:
Lower power draw?

The total power of a 4060LP is bigger?

Speaking of which, is it possible to undervolt these things?
And more important, how significant is that?

Not after shunt-modding

my A2000 will happily pull 130-150W, the 4060LP won't pull anymore than about 115W absolute max.

smitty2k1 · Sep 19, 2023

Genericseat said:
For anyone wondering about the 4060s conpatability with the J-hack pure X: I just measured the gpu area with a ruler and it ended up around 184-185mm.

So it seems we could shove a 4060 LP and a HDPLEX 250w in this thing? Pure X is the gift that keeps on giving. May need to refresh my 1650LP and 200w Meanwell...

smitty2k1 · Sep 19, 2023

SFFMunkee said:

The two video reviews posted don't mention fan noise, but does this card have a zero RPM fan option?

SFFMunkee · Sep 20, 2023

smitty2k1 said:
The two video reviews posted don't mention fan noise, but does this card have a zero RPM fan option?

Ugh. Neither A2000 nor 4060LP will stop their fan(s).

My A2000 was noisy as heck when I got it but was quite tolerable after a fan replacement. The 4060LP is a not unpleasant sound even at full speed, but that is - of course - very subjective.

msystems · Sep 20, 2023

I also think its a pretty quiet card compared to a2000. But if you want better control perhaps you could disconnect the fans, use a micro 4pin gpu fan adapter and connect it to the motherboard. Then use FanControl to govern it

Snerual · Sep 20, 2023

SFFMunkee said:

Which mad man shunt modded an RTX 4000 Ada?

anywhere online I can read more about this thing? The idea of an LP GPU matching an RX 6800 is just insane.

6625 is the highest graphics score I could get in Time Spy with my unmodded A2000, but this is not stable in any other application. My truly stable undervolt scores around 6500.

I wonder if the gap between a (modded) A2000 and the 4060LP closes at 4K. The A2000 does have a ton more memory bandwidth after all.

REVOCCASES · Sep 20, 2023

Snerual said:
Which mad man shunt modded an RTX 4000 Ada? anywhere online I can read more about this thing?

Worlds fastest RTX 4000 ADA Generation SFF : r/sffpc (reddit.com)

b_force · Sep 20, 2023

SFFMunkee said:
Not after shunt-modding my A2000 will happily pull 130-150W, the 4060LP won't pull anymore than about 115W absolute max.

Oh right, I was talking about just stock performance

b_force · Sep 20, 2023

SFFMunkee said:
My A2000 was noisy as heck when I got it but was quite tolerable after a fan replacement.

Are there any examples of some easier mods to make the noise better with decent thermals?
Replacing the entire heatsink is a cool project, but for that amount of hassle and money, I would rather go for 4060LP.

b_force · Sep 20, 2023

msystems said:
I also think its a pretty quiet card compared to a2000. But if you want better control perhaps you could disconnect the fans, use a micro 4pin gpu fan adapter and connect it to the motherboard. Then use FanControl to govern it

I was under the impression that most modern cards would just go to zero RPM below a certain temperature?

But I guess not. lol

Just brainstorming and thinking out loud if a small adapter board would maybe a little better.
Not quite sure if all graphics card software/drivers are happy with zero RPM readings.
Although this could be tricked with some super small micro controller (or maybe even some plain old digital components).

I will give it some thought, ideas are always welcome!

Getting the right plug-and-play connectors is often already quite troublesome

Also having no feedback on the actual temperature is not very helpful.
So from a practical point of view, FanControl is just way more practical.

robbee · Sep 20, 2023

So I got my card in and did some preliminary testing. It's certainly a quality card and heatsink, but the aggressive fan profile bothers me a bit. My card stays around 73C under load but the fans spin up faster than I like. I couldn't set a custom fan profile in afterburner either. Did anyone manage to do that?

I tested a quick deshroud with two noctua NF-A6 fans too. I'm setting 80C as a target temperature. The fans were spinning at 2200RPM to keep it at that temperature, which was much more pleasant sounding than at stock. It's not inaudible though, like the 1800RPM I needed for my A2000.

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