News Gigabyte/ASUS/GALAX RTX 4060 Low Profile

SFFMunkee · Jan 5, 2024

Mackan said:
It seems easier than ever to flash Nvidia bios using the nvflashk utility, I think. Just need a modded bios first, with upped power limit... (or possibly the bios from another 4060 model).

I haven’t been able to yet, happy to be pointed in the right direction on how to flash a 4060LP and I’ll give it a whirl at 138W

Mackan · Jan 5, 2024

SFFMunkee said:
I haven’t been able to yet, happy to be pointed in the right direction on how to flash a 4060LP and I’ll give it a whirl at 138W

I don't have any experience with bios modding/flashing unfortunately. I just read some news that a back door was recently discovered that made it possible to flash any bios out there on Nvidia cards using that utility I mentioned. Maybe someone who has experience with it will see this and reply.

Perhaps a zero fan rpm option could also be useful (if the card's heatsink is enough) for this card, aside from the power limit.

SFFMunkee · Jan 5, 2024

Mackan said:
I don't have any experience with bios modding/flashing unfortunately. I just read some news that a back door was recently discovered that made it possible to flash any bios out there on Nvidia cards using that utility I mentioned. Maybe someone who has experience with it will see this and reply.

Perhaps a zero fan rpm option could also be useful (if the card's heatsink is enough) for this card, aside from the power limit.

I had a try with the 'latest and greatest' nVidia flash tool and didn't get past step 1. I've previously crossflashed plenty of cards (both AMD and nVidia) but wasn't having any luck. If anyone does know how to manage it, I'm very interested

rcodi · Jan 7, 2024

New page on the nerdware website

SFFMunkee · Jan 7, 2024

SFFMunkee said:
I had a try with the 'latest and greatest' nVidia flash tool and didn't get past step 1. I've previously crossflashed plenty of cards (both AMD and nVidia) but wasn't having any luck. If anyone does know how to manage it, I'm very interested

Scratch that, I've managed to successfully crossflash the quiet VBIOS and overclocked VBIOS from another Gigabyte card.

It's hard to tell how well it works as the RTX4060 power measurement is fairly bogus at best, but with the +13% set in Afterburner HWInfo shows 130W usage at full tilt compared to 115W with the stock LP VBIOS.

But - GREAT NEWS --> FAN STOP / Zero RPM Fan mode WORKS !!

I've also managed a slightly higher TimeSpy Graphics score at 11,705 when paired with the same hardware as before.

SFFMunkee · Jan 7, 2024

rcodi said:
New page on the nerdware website

Aw yiss @robbee nice one - I'll be ordering mine when I get some cashflow coming back in!
(It's been rather slow for work Q3/Q4 2023, hoping it picks up!)

rcodi · Jan 7, 2024

SFFMunkee said:
Scratch that, I've managed to successfully crossflash the quiet VBIOS and overclocked VBIOS from another Gigabyte card.

It's hard to tell how well it works as the RTX4060 power measurement is fairly bogus at best, but with the +13% set in Afterburner HWInfo shows 130W usage at full tilt compared to 115W with the stock LP VBIOS.

But - GREAT NEWS --> FAN STOP / Zero RPM Fan mode WORKS !!

I've also managed a slightly higher TimeSpy Graphics score at 11,705 when paired with the same hardware as before.

Very cool, does the fan stop just work after flash or does it require some Gigabyte software to enable?

SFFMunkee · Jan 7, 2024

rcodi said:
Very cool, does the fan stop just work after flash or does it require some Gigabyte software to enable?

It just works

SFFMunkee · Jan 7, 2024

Best result yet (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/44556571), marginal improvement but getting better each time.

Gigabyte RTX 4060 Low Profile using STOCK cooling |
Cross-flashed to Gigabyte RTX4060 Gaming OC |

***AFTERBURNER SETTINGS***
Power at 113% / Fan at 100% |
VF Curve adjusted to 1045mV / 2955MHz |
VMEM overclocked +1575MHz |

|| REVOCCASES RCC-SMALL1 with HDPlex GaN 250W

rcodi · Jan 7, 2024

SFFMunkee said:
It just works

What software did you end up using to flash? No side effects/driver detection issues?

SFFMunkee · Jan 7, 2024

rcodi said:
What software did you end up using to flash? No side effects/driver detection issues?

GitHub - notfromstatefarm/nvflashk: Flash (almost) any vBIOS to (almost) any nVIDIA GPU

Flash (almost) any vBIOS to (almost) any nVIDIA GPU - notfromstatefarm/nvflashk

github.com

Flashed same as normal nvflash commands

i.e.
> "nvflashk.exe -i0 -6 Gigabyte.RTX4060.8192.230523_1.rom"
> "YES"
> "y"
Cross fingers and reboot

I was UNABLE to crossflash to the Strix RTX4060, not sure if it's due to the difference in display outputs (3:1 DP:HDMI vs 2:2 of the Gigabytes) or something else

msystems · Jan 7, 2024

This is extremely promising, that score is basically parity with 3060ti after the bios flash. And aren't you on 5600g with Pci gen 3.0 right? So maybe with better hardware it would even be above 12k.

I'm guessing it might be a bit harder to cool with the extra 15 watts though, as the fan starts to get a bit annoying above 80% speed.

SFFMunkee · Jan 8, 2024

msystems said:
This is extremely promising, that score is basically parity with 3060ti after the bios flash. And aren't you on 5600g with Pci gen 3.0 right? So maybe with better hardware it would even be above 12k.

I'm guessing it might be a bit harder to cool with the extra 15 watts though, as the fan starts to get a bit annoying above 80% speed.

When I work out where the heck I put my thermal paste (or buy some more) I'll test it out with the 3300X, much lower CPU score but PCIe4.0

I could also possibly throw the 2x16GB B-Die DIMMs in, but then I won't have the clearance for the 120mm fan in the RCC-SMALL1 so I think I'll live with the dual-rank DIMMs I have for now.

rcodi · Jan 8, 2024

SFFMunkee said:
GitHub - notfromstatefarm/nvflashk: Flash (almost) any vBIOS to (almost) any nVIDIA GPU

Flash (almost) any vBIOS to (almost) any nVIDIA GPU - notfromstatefarm/nvflashk

github.com

Flashed same as normal nvflash commands

i.e.
> "nvflashk.exe -i0 -6 Gigabyte.RTX4060.8192.230523_1.rom"
> "YES"
> "y"
Cross fingers and reboot

I was UNABLE to crossflash to the Strix RTX4060, not sure if it's due to the difference in display outputs (3:1 DP:HDMI vs 2:2 of the Gigabytes) or something else

Thanks! Quiet bios is working great with fan stop, I tested it on this cold morning and upon boot they were off. They come back on if you start doing anything but it's still a neat feature to have.

ChinStrap · Jan 8, 2024

113% via flash is great news! thank you for including the bios used.

Mackan · Jan 8, 2024

So there was some truth to the nvflashk utility after all.

It makes sense that a very similar 4060 bios can be flashed (from another Gigabyte card), but that it will be difficult to find a compatible bios from another vendor (e.g. the 4060 Strix).

I think the author of the utility had planned a GUI with more functionality, including some bios editing, but no news on that since October. Probably is not happening. Or a surprise some day.

SFFMunkee · Jan 9, 2024

Mackan said:
So there was some truth to the nvflashk utility after all. It makes sense that a very similar 4060 bios can be flashed (from another Gigabyte card), but that it will be difficult to find a compatible bios from another vendor (e.g. the 4060 Strix).

I think the author of the utility had planned a GUI with more functionality, including some bios editing, but no news on that since October. Probably is not happening. Or a surprise some day.

That's supposed to be 'coming soon' but I haven't heard any news in some time.

Also - I'm now up to #18 fastest RTX4060 - with the stock Low Profile cooler

I scored 10 240 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 3 3300X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

95% of the fastest RTX4060's performance ain't too bad

Snerual · Jan 10, 2024

That's great! I wonder if you can still squeeze out a few more points with a Ryzen 5600 or something similar. Now I am seriously tempted to do this flash myself, but without any backup GPU whatsoever it's probably a bit risky

what frequency are you managing to hit?

Honestly I think this deserves a front page post. Being able to up the power limit and have zero RPM mode on our beloved 4060LP is an amazing development.

Edit: looks you are in 81st place, not 18th?

SFFMunkee · Jan 10, 2024

Snerual said:
That's great! I wonder if you can still squeeze out a few more points with a Ryzen 5600 or something similar. Now I am seriously tempted to do this flash myself, but without any backup GPU whatsoever it's probably a bit risky what frequency are you managing to hit?

Honestly I think this deserves a front page post. Being able to up the power limit and have zero RPM mode on our beloved 4060LP is an amazing development.

Edit: looks you are in 81st place, not 18th?

::EDIT:: Forgot to actually answer all your questions...

Across TimeSpy graphics tests...
Graphics 1: 2940 - 2970 MHz
Graphics 2: 2880 - 2955 MHz

For all of these, I've run at +1625MHz on the VRAM i.e. 2531.49Mhz (10125 MHz in afterburner)

I think maybe I've got 81st for overall score, I'm sorting by Graphics Score (because obv I don't care if someone beats me with a 14900KSXX1!1!) and Leaderboard (otherwise every result gets added)

There's definitely some promise if I were to use a 5000 non-APU chip, but unfortunately I only have the 3300X/4750G/5600G available now.

robbee · Jan 10, 2024

So i'm running more tests with my heatsink and observing odd behaviour. Running benchmarks like Heaven or Furmark, the max temperature is about 73C. However, when running demanding games, temperature gets as high as 80C. This is with the card outside of the case so ambient temperature should be the same. I always assumed benchmark software would put more load on a card than any game. Anyone have more insights? Running more tests tonight...

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