Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure

[MarcParis]

Yeah, I should have linked the specific graph I was referring to. You can't compare RPM to RPM because fans make very different noise at a given RPM. The important relationship is noise vs airflow through radiator.

The ML120 makes less noise for a given airflow requirement at just about every setting. That said, the Gentle Typhoons are very close at lower RPMs and some people like their noise character better(this is a big factor in noise perception that no reviews cover), but GTs weren't available on amazon.ca when I bought my fans so I didn't consider them.




Yeah I agree, it's VERY difficult to find good fan reviews. There are some that measure noise like the one I linked to above, and some that measure temps on a given heatsink like this youtube one, and between that and what a lot of industry people are saying, it's fairly clear that the Noctua probably beats every other 120mm fan, but I agree we need a more conclusive review from someone genuinely thorough like Gamers Nexus.

I'd love to see a 4-way comparison of the Darkside GT, ML120 Pro, NF-A12x25, and Vardar.

In fact, i preferred using/cross check rpm/noise comparison based on video..

On top of that, ML-120 fans was one of the worst covered, especially when I saw some reviewers using DC control on this fan...generating horrible noise at low rpm/voltage....crappy.

Totally agree about how hard it is to find proper and exhaustive review.

 

[kecoal2]

Added Scythe Fuma Rev B and added another 140mm fan. The real question is how much of an effort will it be for me to strip down those GPU power cables + the motherboard cables to keep things even tidier.

Fixed my weird sound buzzing issues in my headphones while playing games by uping the fan curve on my Fans.

If anyone has a idea of how to do a screw removal with the default screws let me know. One of my screws got stuck in the backplate. I need an idea to get it out.
3 140mm Intake. 2 in the bottom, 1 in the front.

Update: I think the actual issue is my motherboard's cables that connect to the PSU are way too close to the GPU. the GPU generates heat and which causes some surge to occur within the power supply causing a full system freeze. I swapped the PSU around so the cables are on the other side. Lets see if this fixes the problem. Anyone know if there are right angle connectors to seasonic power supplies?

Update: Here are the pictures if people are concerned. You can take a look at my previous albums at the remaining one

 

[bran]

How's the fuma compared to d15?

 

[kecoal2]

It seems fine stays under 80C on prime 95. 53C Idle. It equivalent to the reviews I have found. I currently have a Noctua 120mm fan and the 2 scythe fans. I could get the sterrox fans but they are too pricy for the value I would get out of it.

 

[MarcParis]

It seems fine stays under 80C on prime 95. 53C Idle. It equivalent to the reviews I have found. I currently have a Noctua 120mm fan and the 2 scythe fans. I could get the sterrox fans but they are too pricy for the value I would get out of it.

Don't expect tons of improvments of your maximum cpu cooling by switching fans...you already have 3... However it could lead to better ratio cooling/noise/rpm.

For your stuck screw, you can try to drill screw head.

 

[MarcParis]

Added Scythe Fuma Rev B and added another 140mm fan. The real question is how much of an effort will it be for me to strip down those GPU power cables + the motherboard cables to keep things even tidier.

Fixed my weird sound buzzing issues in my headphones while playing games by uping the fan curve on my Fans.

If anyone has a idea of how to do a screw removal with the default screws let me know. One of my screws got stuck in the backplate. I need an idea to get it out.
3 140mm Intake. 2 in the bottom, 1 in the front.

Update: I think the actual issue is my motherboard's cables that connect to the PSU are way too close to the GPU. the GPU generates heat and which causes some surge to occur within the power supply causing a full system freeze. I swapped the PSU around so the cables are on the other side. Lets see if this fixes the problem. Anyone know if there are right angle connectors to seasonic power supplies?

Update: Here are the pictures if people are concerned. You can take a look at my previous albums at the remaining one

Please could you take a picture with side panel on?
Do you manage to close you side panel with Fuma?

 

[rcradiator]

Please could you take a picture with side panel on?
Do you manage to close you side panel with Fuma?

The side panel will close with no issues. The cooler doesn't touch the side panel, but the fans will touch the side panel when the panel is closed. The panel doesn't actually push on the fans, just touches them. I'm using ML120 fans which have slightly larger outer dimensions compared to most fans (more plastic and rubber on edges), so I'm fairly sure that most 120mm fans will fit perfectly without ever touching the side panel.
It is an extremely tight fit though, and at first glance it seems as though it may not fit. I was probably one of the first to try using the Fuma in the Cerberus X, and I was fairly surprised when it fit millimeter for millimeter without issue at all.

 

[MarcParis]

The side panel will close with no issues. The cooler doesn't touch the side panel, but the fans will touch the side panel when the panel is closed. The panel doesn't actually push on the fans, just touches them. I'm using ML120 fans which have slightly larger outer dimensions compared to most fans (more plastic and rubber on edges), so I'm fairly sure that most 120mm fans will fit perfectly without ever touching the side panel.
It is an extremely tight fit though, and at first glance it seems as though it may not fit. I was probably one of the first to try using the Fuma in the Cerberus X, and I was fairly surprised when it fit millimeter for millimeter without issue at all.

Thanks for information.

In terms of the fuma cooling performance, are you satisfied?

ps : like all air cpu cooler in cerberus X, I'm a bit worried about airflow...either you proper intake...but no real exhaust...or the contrary. With watercooling (especially radiator on bottom), airflow is just really fine, with intake from bottom and exhaust on side and top.

 

[Phuncz]

I have a Scythe Kabuto 2 in my Ryzen 1800X system that does get audible (not annoying to me) when loaded, and I have the Fuma waiting on me to not play Factorio to install it. Soon I'll get mine installed as well and report back with my experience too.

 

[rcradiator]

Thanks for information.

In terms of the fuma cooling performance, are you satisfied?

ps : like all air cpu cooler in cerberus X, I'm a bit worried about airflow...either you proper intake...but no real exhaust...or the contrary. With watercooling (especially radiator on bottom), airflow is just really fine, with intake from bottom and exhaust on side and top.

The cooling is quite impressive. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 at 3.9ghz, 1.28v, and I haven't seen temps above 60c for normal use. Any of the prime95 tests result in temps around 85c. In terms of exhaust, I have a 92mm noiseblocker fan spinning rather fast (1800-2100 rpm) but it's really quiet and moves a lot of air. I have noticed hot spots around the area where the SLI connectors would be, so I'm considering adding a slim 120mm or 140mm fan to the top with the handle bracket. In terms of airflow, I have bottom intake, 120mm fans on a Morpheus ii which push air up from the intake, and a 92mm fan exhausting from the rear. Not the most optimal airflow, but I did expect temps to be a bit warmer due to the tempered glass side panel I'm using.

 

[rcradiator]

Double post, please disregard.

 

[MarcParis]

I have a Scythe Kabuto 2 in my Ryzen 1800X system that does get audible (not annoying to me) when loaded, and I have the Fuma waiting on me to not play Factorio to install it. Soon I'll get mine installed as well and report back with my experience too.

The cooling is quite impressive. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 at 3.9ghz, 1.28v, and I haven't seen temps above 60c for normal use. Any of the prime95 tests result in temps around 85c. In terms of exhaust, I have a 92mm noiseblocker fan spinning rather fast (1800-2100 rpm) but it's really quiet and moves a lot of air. I have noticed hot spots around the area where the SLI connectors would be, so I'm considering adding a slim 120mm or 140mm fan to the top with the handle bracket. In terms of airflow, I have bottom intake, 120mm fans on a Morpheus ii which push air up from the intake, and a 92mm fan exhausting from the rear. Not the most optimal airflow, but I did expect temps to be a bit warmer due to the tempered glass side panel I'm using.

Thanks for your feedback.
I know fuma is not far away from noctua d15 in terms of performance. After it will be great to have proper intake...like replacing front sfx psu by a 140mm intake fan.. (with hdplex psu..)

With my noctua c14, the best overall setup was in full exhaust...but performance is well behind my customed loop.

 

[kecoal2]

I'll post some pictures this weekend of the Scythe Fuma clearance.

Sad News guys. MY PC keeps freezing still even after everything. Next I am going to pull the PSU out and run the PC like that see may be doing this. If the PC is passing and not screatching and freezing then I know my problem. If it doesn't then it may be some cable touching something bad.

If anyone has other troubleshooting let me know. This only started happening since I moved cases.

 

[MarcParis]

I'll post some pictures this weekend of the Scythe Fuma clearance.

Sad News guys. MY PC keeps freezing still even after everything. Next I am going to pull the PSU out and run the PC like that see may be doing this. If the PC is passing and not screatching and freezing then I know my problem. If it doesn't then it may be some cable touching something bad.

If anyone has other troubleshooting let me know. This only started happening since I moved cases.

Thanks for Fuma pictures.

Sad news indeed for your setup. As I told you, issues you were encountering were not typical of a simple overheating...most probably, your MB is guilty. Good luck to your bug hunt.

 

[VegetableStu]

Also other good news is we found a distributor in South East Asia!

asking for a friend: any updates on this? o_o

 

[KSliger]

asking for a friend: any updates on this? o_o

On hold for now, resume it later this year.

 

[VegetableStu]

got it, thanks! ❤

 

[kecoal2]

@MarcParis

You can easily put the cooler in. I have LPX Corsair Memory which allows me to put the 3rd fan in easily. The panels can be bent a bit outwards if anything slightly off doesn't fit. I didn't have any issues with it at all.

 

[MarcParis]

@MarcParis

You can easily put the cooler in. I have LPX Corsair Memory which allows me to put the 3rd fan in easily. The panels can be bent a bit outwards if anything slightly off doesn't fit. I didn't have any issues with it at all.

Thanks for this nice photo...
Indeed, fuma is fitting barely inside cerberus...

What is impact with or without side panel on cpu temperature?

 

[kecoal2]

It's about 5-6 degrees cooler playing siege.

I pulled my PSU out and played with the top off and no system crashes. So I redid my cabling again and instead of craming my cables underneath the PSU. I just let them hang. I got the freeze once when my fan speed was too low. Once I used the preset standard speed in ASROCK Bios at standard its been running fine. Still not sure the exact reason why this is happening. Possible PSU over heating due to lack of airflow? I really don't know

Part of me now wants to mod and shorten the cables, The cables are unnecessarily long.