Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure

[Johnny0971]

I'm not a reviewer but I have had Gentle Typhoons and can compare them to my new Noctua NF-A12x25, and the Noctuas are way more silent.

The GT fans have a very special and annoying hum to the motor that really bothers me, even at low RPM, and quality is less.

 

[MarcParis]

I'm not a reviewer but I have had Gentle Typhoons and can compare them to my new Noctua NF-A12x25, and the Noctuas are way more silent.

The GT fans have a very special and annoying hum to the motor that really bothers me, even at low RPM, and quality is less.

Which variant of gentle typhoon are you speaking of?

Well i have to agree on quality on gentle typhoon, especially on early releases.

I've 10 gentle typhoon (6 scythe AP15 1850rpm and 4 dark side AP60 2150rpm).
On my AP-15 original scythe version, 50% have some motor noise (from low to medium). Also noise @1850rpm is higher than my 2150rpm dark side version.
However on my AP60dark side, all are fine...and I'm definitely impressed by their noise level @2150rpm.

Don't get me wrong.
Noctua are pretty good fans. i wanted to highlight current state of the art of fan dedicated for radiator. Before nf a12-25, Noctua has no real competitive fan for radiator (even P12 was poorly gifted vs GT)

Noctua (like be quiet) fans have advantage to have very quiet (with very low motor noise) on low speed, with good reliability.
However, Noctua fans I own (P12, F12, nf a12x15, PPC 12, PPC14) tend to be pretty noisy at higher rpm.
I'm hoping that NF A12-25 @2000rpm is closer in noise to GT/Vardar than noctua PPC 120 2000...

 

[KSliger]

Thanks a lot! Ordered!

I have one question fot @KSliger, becasue my USB 3 cable arrived in blue, could you suggest one website where I can looking for a black one, of different sizes? Thanks a lot!

This should work

https://www.pccables.com/products/73500.html

Hey guys,

I have decided to overclock my i7 7820x using my current cooler Noctua c14s with x2 EK vader 2000 rpm fans running in push pull.

Would look into a really beefy air cooler for that CPU, possibly some more intake and exhaust fans before a 280mm AIO.

240mm AIO will not be sufficient for that CPU overclocked.

 

[yosvos]

[QUOTE="KSliger - Would look into a really beefy air cooler for that CPU, possibly some more intake and exhaust fans before a 280mm AIO.

240mm AIO will not be sufficient for that CPU overclocked.[/QUOTE]

Do you recommend a particular set up for maximum cooling? I am open to all options.

 

[Sancus]

Please, please, never say that ML120 fan was ever the best 120mm fan on radiator...please never say that...as it never was.
ML120 fan have very loud motor and quite uneffective blade shape for radiator.

Multiple reviews indicated that it was, and that it consistently outperformed the vardars and GTs(which are about the same) in terms of noise for a given airflow through a radiator.

But I don't really want to get into some kind of argument about the ML120s, the new Noctuas massively outperform everything else on the market.

 

[fabio]

This should work

https://www.pccables.com/products/73500.html



Would look into a really beefy air cooler for that CPU, possibly some more intake and exhaust fans before a 280mm AIO.

240mm AIO will not be sufficient for that CPU overclocked.

Thanks!

 

[MarcParis]

Multiple reviews indicated that it was, and that it consistently outperformed the vardars and GTs(which are about the same) in terms of noise for a given airflow through a radiator.

But I don't really want to get into some kind of argument about the ML120s, the new Noctuas massively outperform everything else on the market.

True ML120 outperformed EK Vardar....at 2000+ rpm... Below Vardars are clear winner. Personnally my GT fans are spinning around 1000-1600 on average. I'm reaching 2150rpm only for some heavy cpu benchmarks.

Anyway Thermalbench graphs could be misleading (many graphs, several meanings).
But I wish to have Noctua NF a12x25 such detailled review.

 

[Nanook]

True ML120 outperformed EK Vardar....at 2000+ rpm... Below Vardars are clear winner. Personnally my GT fans are spinning around 1000-1600 on average. I'm reaching 2150rpm only for some heavy cpu benchmarks.

Anyway Thermalbench graphs could be misleading (many graphs, several meanings).
But I wish to have Noctua NF a12x25 such detailled review.

I’m sure in depth tests are bring conducted /published soon

 

[MarcParis]

I’m sure in depth tests are bring conducted /published soon

fingers crossed..

 

[VegetableStu]

I’m sure in depth tests are bring conducted /published soon

can't wait for GN to start doing fan and PSU reviews. soon there'll be so much consistency
(on a separate note, the current reviewer on Jonnyguru is going to retire from reviewing PSUs this coming november ,_,)

 

[MarcParis]

can't wait for GN to start doing fan and PSU reviews. soon there'll be so much consistency
(on a separate note, the current reviewer on Jonnyguru is going to retire from reviewing PSUs this coming november ,_,)

Bad news for Jonnyguru, as it was psu reference guide.
At least Tom's Hardware is also making proper psu reviews.

For fan, martin's lab, extreme rigs were very good for watercooling. Thermalbench is not that bad, but could be hard to read/compare.

Definitely I like GN "scientist" method...even if their ITX case review...is a bit a R&D process.. (they will surely split ITX case in several categories : very compact and fat itx..)

 

[VegetableStu]

GN admits they're very loose on their ITX / SFF-to-mini-tower case reviews because of how varied the layouts can be, which I see as a happy side effect to the kind of things being done to keep total volume down

still would love to see GN review the cerberus C11U. obvious scores against it would be price and cable management, but I wonder from a straightforward builder's perspective...

EDIT: xtremerigs recently got me poisoned to looking into super high end radiators ,_, whyyyyyyyy

 

[fabio]

Guys, a quick teaser on my future Cerberus-X!
Still missing more RAM, few custom cables, and the upcoming Threadripper 2 and MB! I guess in September will be finished and I will post a full build log!
Thanks for everything!

 

[VegetableStu]

2 Titan V-s and 2 Optane SSDs (to already two 2TB 970 EVOs)
holy moneyspending christ O_O

 

[fabio]

2 Titan V-s and 2 Optane SSDs (to already two 2TB 970 EVOs)
holy moneyspending christ O_O

Of course is not for gaming! But the HDD are: 1 Optane for OS, 1 Optane for caching, and the 2 EVO for storage. Not so crazy at the end!

 

[MarcParis]

Guys, a quick teaser on my future Cerberus-X!
Still missing more RAM, few custom cables, and the upcoming Threadripper 2 and MB! I guess in September will be finished and I will post a full build log!
Thanks for everything!

Mamamia!!
On your way to have second most powerful cerberus-x?... (record is still threadripper with 4 titan v...)

 

[fabio]

Mamamia!!
On your way to have second most powerful cerberus-x?... (record is still threadripper with 4 titan v...)

Ahahaha, that is the King, and for respect, no one should build something similar! BUT, I hope to add a third GPU, let's see what Nvidia will release!

 

[Sancus]

True ML120 outperformed EK Vardar....at 2000+ rpm... Below Vardars are clear winner. Personnally my GT fans are spinning around 1000-1600 on average. I'm reaching 2150rpm only for some heavy cpu benchmarks.

Yeah, I should have linked the specific graph I was referring to. You can't compare RPM to RPM because fans make very different noise at a given RPM. The important relationship is noise vs airflow through radiator.

The ML120 makes less noise for a given airflow requirement at just about every setting. That said, the Gentle Typhoons are very close at lower RPMs and some people like their noise character better(this is a big factor in noise perception that no reviews cover), but GTs weren't available on amazon.ca when I bought my fans so I didn't consider them.

Anyway Thermalbench graphs could be misleading (many graphs, several meanings).
But I wish to have Noctua NF a12x25 such detailled review.

Yeah I agree, it's VERY difficult to find good fan reviews. There are some that measure noise like the one I linked to above, and some that measure temps on a given heatsink like this youtube one, and between that and what a lot of industry people are saying, it's fairly clear that the Noctua probably beats every other 120mm fan, but I agree we need a more conclusive review from someone genuinely thorough like Gamers Nexus.

I'd love to see a 4-way comparison of the Darkside GT, ML120 Pro, NF-A12x25, and Vardar.

 

[aneasyusername]

What have people been using for mesh filters on the Cerberus? I thought I could get away without them, but my corgi has proven a worthy adversary and his fur is making it into the case with ease. Also, if anyone is interested in a white vented window or an HDD bracket, let me know! I'm currently using a vented window panel and had no room for any HDDs inside the case

 

[MarcParis]

What have people been using for mesh filters on the Cerberus? I thought I could get away without them, but my corgi has proven a worthy adversary and his fur is making it into the case with ease. Also, if anyone is interested in a white vented window or an HDD bracket, let me know! I'm currently using a vented window panel and had no room for any HDDs inside the case

Demciflex could be useful.

Personnaly I'm 2x140 demciflex on front, 2x120 bottom and 1x92mm on rear.

check my log to have more details...and you will see that my cats prevent me to remove filters..