Completed SFFtime presents: N-ATX - 14 L case with ATX mbo and psu, 4-slot gpu and 360mm rad support!

[MarcParis]

Yes, everything will be steel except from the mask which we be aluminum. I had to do this to keep it light enough not to get into next price tier for shipping (over 5kg).

It doesn't have official support for inverted orientation, you could stick some feet to the top panel and invert it, but I don't recommend it, since I am sure that it will actually have worse cpu and psu temps. And some of the gpu exhaust could still get to cpu because of active airflow. You can always try it out

GPU on top is working very well for CPU & PSU in CL530..that's why..
It mainly depends where is located your case (right or left from monitor).

 

[riba2233]

GPU on top is working very well for CPU & PSU in CL530..that's why..
It mainly depends where is located your case (right or left from monitor).

That could be because CL530 otherwise has blocked gpu exhaust on the bottom, since it is not raised from the table. In my testing cpu temps were much better with it being on the top, but yeah, you could always try it out, maybe it works ok for your use case.

 

[Legion]

That could be because CL530 otherwise has blocked gpu exhaust on the bottom, since it is not raised from the table. In my testing cpu temps were much better with it being on the top, but yeah, you could always try it out, maybe it works ok for your use case.

He's using a 3090 Founders Edition, they exhaust differently to AIB cards. I can see why he's asking these questions.
This case will attract a lot of attention from 3090 Founders Edition users wanting to keep them air cooled.
With how you've designed it, it's perfect for that use case scenario !!!

 

[riba2233]

He's using a 3090 Founders Edition, they exhaust differently to AIB cards. I can see why he's asking these questions.
This is case will attract a lot of attention from 3090 Founders Edition users wanting to keep them air cooled.
With how you've designed it, it's perfect for that use case scenario !!!

True, I have totally glossed over that, thank you for pointing out! 3080 and 3090 fe are neutral for cpu cooler since they will exhaust directly out of the case in p-atx and n-atx, so shouldn't affect the cpu temps. In that case cpu mounted on top will perform better because of the easier exhaust.

 

[MarcParis]

@Legion @riba2233 I'm caught.. RTX 3090 FE is strong beast to tame...especially this ***** GDDR6X temperature on back plate..

I think N-ATX will represent a really good compromise...just let me know when I can test it..

PS : Only spoiler from my CL530 review is that IS-60 EVO with NF-A12x25 + NF-A19x14 + nh-L9a backplate is the king..

 

[Legion]

@Legion @riba2233 I'm caught.. RTX 3090 FE is strong beast to tame...especially this ***** GDDR6X temperature on back plate..

I think N-ATX will represent a really good compromise...just let me know when I can test it..

PS : Only spoiler from my CL530 review is that IS-60 EVO with NF-A12x25 + NF-A19x14 + nh-L9a backplate is the king..

I know what you are saying there Marc, I think something like an A12x-15 pulling air onto the Backplate with an A12x-25 (maybe using a 3d printed duct) assisting with Flowthrough on the other side looks to be an interesting proposition here in the N-ATX 14 for 3090 FE users
Will need to use a riser like the 3M and not a solid one though to help drop those backplate temps.

 

[Retrias]

@Legion @riba2233 I'm caught.. RTX 3090 FE is strong beast to tame...especially this ***** GDDR6X temperature on back plate..

I think N-ATX will represent a really good compromise...just let me know when I can test it..

PS : Only spoiler from my CL530 review is that IS-60 EVO with NF-A12x25 + NF-A19x14 + nh-L9a backplate is the king..

are you me ? I have the exact same idea on the IS60 EVO since I have a spare NF A9

 

[MarcParis]

I know what you are saying there Marc, I think something like an A12x-15 pulling air onto the Backplate with an A12x-25 (maybe using a 3d printed duct) assisting with Flowthrough on the other side looks to be an interesting proposition here in the N-ATX 14 for 3090 FE users
Will need to use a riser like the 3M and not a solid one though to help drop those backplate temps.

Duct won’t be needed. However powerful a quiet fan like nfa12x25 will be great. Also no a12x15 are spinning faster than expected due to airflow from RTX 3090 fe...very interesting airflow.
Very true about riser blocking airflow at worst place possible..

 

[riba2233]

Duct won’t be needed. However powerful a quiet fan like nfa12x25 will be great. Also no a12x15 are spinning faster than expected due to airflow from RTX 3090 fe...very interesting airflow.
Very true about riser blocking airflow at worst place possible..

Riser has 6 individual wire groups that you can bunch up a bit to improve the airflow, that is what I did with my build.

 

[MarcParis]

My CL530 review is finally up
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/sliger-cl530-tame-rtx-3090-fe-build-log.16125/

@riba2233 do you confirm in N-ATX you will enough depth for 60mm GPU + 25mm fan on back side?
I'm a bit concerned as CPU cooler height is 79mm and total depth case is 98mm..

 

[thelaughingman]

Sure no problem, internal dimensions are: 403x348x93mm.

Don't worry about tolerances though, shouldn't be any problems there.

@riba2233 do you confirm in N-ATX you will enough depth for 60mm GPU + 25mm fan on back side?
I'm a bit concerned as CPU cooler height is 79mm and total depth case is 98mm..

The main potential problem with 60mm rad is the space you have left for tube routing:

when you are using mITX motherboard you should have the full 93mm to work with

 

[MarcParis]

when you are using mITX motherboard you should have the full 93mm to work with

Then it should be fine with 25mm fans and 3slots gpu. Thanks!

Another question related to power button. Despite looking at video on p-atx I was unable to see it clearly. I just understood that it was located on the bottom side. Is it the same for N-ATX?

 

[riba2233]

Then it should be fine with 25mm fans and 3slots gpu. Thanks!

Another question related to power button. Despite looking at video on p-atx I was unable to see it clearly. I just understood that it was located on the bottom side. Is it the same for N-ATX?

Np

Yes, it is the same principle as with P-ATX, you access it from the bottom, here is the render:

 

[MarcParis]

Np

Yes, it is the same principle as with P-ATX, you access it from the bottom, here is the render:

Thanks!
Is it possible to buy a spare part with case order?

 

[riba2233]

Thanks!
Is it possible to buy a spare part with case order?

It depends, which part? I ask mainly because of weight, it will already be pretty close to the limit of 5kg with the packaging.

If you were thinking about power switch, then yes, no problem.

 

[Quaddragon]

This is my current build. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/quaddragon/saved/#view=YX2JMp How should I change the cooling to make the most out of this case?

 

[riba2233]

This is my current build. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/quaddragon/saved/#view=YX2JMp How should I change the cooling to make the most out of this case?

Well, you are lucky that your gpu is 2 slot and that you have an itx board, so you can go all the way to 360mm aio! (120, 240 or 360 will work)

On the other hand, 5600x is not a hot chip, so you would be fine with something like Noctua L12S

 

[MarcParis]

It depends, which part? I ask mainly because of weight, it will already be pretty close to the limit of 5kg with the packaging.

If you were thinking about power switch, then yes, no problem.

Yes I was referring to power button, in case it broke..

This is my current build. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/quaddragon/saved/#view=YX2JMp How should I change the cooling to make the most out of this case?

For R5 5600X, IS-60 with top 25mm, like nf-a12x15 is working great up R7 5800X (130w)

 

[Quaddragon]

Well, you are lucky that your gpu is 2 slot and that you have an itx board, so you can go all the way to 360mm aio! (120, 240 or 360 will work)

On the other hand, 5600x is not a hot chip, so you would be fine with something like Noctua L12S

Is there a way to go with 240mm Rad in the top mount position? Preferibly an AIO?

 

[El Media Vida]

First of all

This will fit?
- Mini ITX Motherboard
- EKWB Revo D5 (78mm)
- ATX PSU
- 30mm rad + 15mm fan (Noctua A12x15)
- Dual slot GPU (Gigabyte RTX 3060 Ti Gaming OC)

Thanks!!