Hi everyone,
I am really proud to announce that after a lot of work, and a lot of time, I finally have a new version of P-ATX ready!
New batch is currently in production and available to pre-order on our website:
www.sfftime.com
First reviews have dropped, please check them out:
Hardware Canucks:
Tech Buyer's Guru:
I know that you like pictures the most, so I will start with pictures of the case:
Before painting, with some parts mounting:
Links to albums:
Few renders:
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Ok, and now let me tell you what's new. There are many changes so I don't even know where to start
Here is the TL;DR version, and after that more detailed one:
- small increase in volume from 9 to 10 liters for better hardware compatibility (only 9 mm wider)
- improved construction and sturdiness, especially with side panels and stand
- clean front panel with usb ports moved to left side and power button to bottom
- new finish - whole case is powdercoated in black or white with texture and better quality powdercoating
- still the same excellent thermal performance, increased ventilation area on the right side so you can flip the PSU
- better quality GPU riser
- now fits taller 2 slot and 3 slot gpu's, and longer gpu's with 120 mm AIO with included 92 mm fan adapter
- increased cpu cooler clearance to 59 mm
- easier to build in and to spec the build thanks to better compatibility
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Here is the compatibility guide:
GPU COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. Width:
a) default - max triple slot (~62mm)
b) with ATX, m-ATX or m-DTX board - max dual slot (~42mm)
2. Length (for 2 slot gpu’s):
a) default - 370 mm
b) with 120 mm AIO - 245 mm (or 270 mm if using 92 mm fan)
c) with both 3.5 HDD’s installed - 270 mm
d) with more than four 2.5 HDD’s installed - 302 mm
e) with 92mm AIO - 270 mm
3. Length (for 3 slot gpu’s):
a) default - 370 mm
b) with 120 mm AIO - 245 mm
c) with 3.5 HDD - 270 mm
d) with more than two 2.5 HDD’s installed - 302 mm
e) with 92mm AIO - 270 mm
4. Height:
a) default - 140 mm
b) when using motherboard with memory slots in low position – 136 mm
Notes:
* dimensions do not include PCI bracket
* PCI-e riser cable is included with the case.
CPU COOLER COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. Air cooler – up to 59 mm high
2. Water cooling – up to 38 mm thick fan with following block and radiator dimensions:
a) block with tubes exiting from the side – up to 59 mm high
b) block with tubes exiting from the top – up to 39 mm high
c) 120 mm radiator – up to 30 mm thick and 124 mm wide
d) 92 mm radiator – up to 30 mm thick
Notes:
* Please see GPU compatibility for GPU dimension limits with various radiator options.
* Please see HDD compatibility for HDD dimension limits with various radiator options.
HARD DRIVES COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. 3.5” hard drives – two units
2. 2.5” hard drives in lower position – 9.5 mm units with following options:
a) without 3.5” drives – 7 units
b) with one 3.5” drive – 4 units
c) with two 3.5” drives – one unit
3. 2.5” hard drive in upper position – one 7 mm unit
Notes:
* Please see GPU compatibility for GPU dimension limits with various hard drive options.
* HDD support is limited to one 7 mm 2.5” unit if using water cooling
MOTHERBOARD COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. ATX, mini ATX and mini DTX boards with dual slot GPU’s
2. Mini ITX boards with triple slot GPU’s
- MEMORY STICKS – UP TO 64 MM TALL
- POWER SUPPLIES – SFX and SFX-L UP TO 130MM LONG
Note:
* Power supplies with only three mounting screws are not supported
- Wi-Fi ANTENNAS – THREE RP-SMA MOUNTING HOLES ON THE BACK PANEL
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Detailed changelog:
1. Size and volume - ok, so the first and the obvious change is the volume bump from 9 to 10 L. This wasn't an easy decision, but it brings a lot of benefits which I will mention. But I have to say that the only dimension that has changed is the width of the case, which is now around 78 mm.
So the final dimensions are:
378 x 342 x 78 mm, 10.08 L
As you can see, it is only around 9 mm wider than the v1.
2. Construction - the construction has changed quite a bit. I have adopted a different style of folding the main chassis, and also the way that the side panels mount. The mask is now made from 2 mm steel instead of 3 mm aluminum, and the same goes for the stand. Side panels are thicker, at 0.8 mm, have much batter way of attaching to the main chassis which I am very proud of, it works and feels very nice. Main chassis is made from combination of 0.8 and 1 mm steel.
Stand attaches to the case without tools, with tab and slot system, and is more stable than the v1 since it actually holds on to the case.
Few more notes about side panels - ventilation holes (oblongs) are now thinner for more elegant look and to make it harder to put fingers in, but the hole to metal ratio is still the same, so the cooling performance should be the same as with v1. Side panels are now more securely attached on all 4 sides. On front and top with tabs, and on the back with one screw and on bottom with 2 screws, but one is optional, I would only use it if you transfer the case. This makes the case much more rigid with installed side panels. Trust me, it's really strong and has around 2.8 kg (6.2 pounds) so it's not a joke.
Also, I have added few m3 taps on the side flanges that are currently unused, that will allow for future side panel options like acrylic or wood, potentially with spacers.
3. Aesthetics - I tried to make the case look even more elegant with a bit refined ventilation pattern which is no longer split in the center, and the most importantly, with clear front panel! I have moved USB ports to the left side (they also have a wider spacing now) and the power button is moved to the bottom of the case (no power led).
Another big change is that the whole case will now be powdercoated (matte with texture) in single color (I plan to offer black and white), including the mask and the stand. I will have it powdercoated soon and post some pictures.
4. MBO compatibility - still the same, ATX, mATX, ITX, mDTX, but this time with more maneuvering space for ATX and mATX boards so that they are not so crammed like in v1.
5. GPU compatibility - this is the big one. With ATX and mATX boards, you can now fit 2 slot GPU's up to 140 mm tall, regardless on the pcie slot position! This is one of the main reasons I have widened the case.
Also, with ITX boards you can easily fit 3 slot GPU's up to 140 mm tall and 370 mm long, so when using ITX boards you can basically fit almost all of the GPU's on the market. I think that this is a really big deal.
Some cards that are slightly wider than 2 slot but not too tall will fit with ATX and mATX boards.
Another important point, this version will come with better GPU riser, black ADT pcie 3.0, similar to one used in FormD T1.
6. CPU cooler and AIO compatibility - of course, with wider case comes the support for taller air coolers, now up to 59 mm, which really opens up new possibilities.
I have also done something interesting with AIO's, for start they are now much easier to fit because you don't have to bend their tubes so hard.
But also, I will include adapter that allows for installing 92 mm fan on 120 mm AIO, which allows for mounting reference sized GPU's with 120mm AIO at the same time. This is also possible because of the wider chassis, since radiators up to 30 mm thick can now sit under the 2 slot GPU. If you use thicker GPU, such as 3 slot, you can use the same included adapter to mount the 92 mm AIO, no need to buy the extra accessory. Also, I have made AIO mounting holes a bit wider, so you can now mount the case fan in this position without any frills, even with some HDD's installed.
7. PSU compatibility - more rigid bracket for SFX PSU's, that mounts with 2 screws to the psu and with 3 screws to the case (it was 2 in v1).
The news is that now you can rotate psu in both directions (thanks to increased ventilation area on the right panel), so there will be no problems with cable angle. Only downsize of this new bracket is that the old style psu's with asymmetric hole layout (2 one side and 1 on the other) are not supported. Also, the psu sits a bit closer to he top of the case, so there will be more space for cable management and for SFX-L supplies.
8. HDD compatibility - I have redesigned the HDD bracket and mounting from the ground up. Now you can mount the 3.5 drive beneath 2 slot gpu, even a really long one. The bracket supports following combinations:
2x 3.5 + 1x 2.5
1x 3.5 + 4x 2.5
7x 2.5
And one additional 2.5 (7mm thick) drive in the second position, on top of the PSU in all hardware combinations. There is no option to mount the 2.5 drive on top of CPU socket like in the previous version, since I think it's no longer needed.
Also one really important point is the way that the HDD bracket installs, it just slides in from the front, and you only have to secure it with one M3 nut. That means that it is now much easier to install hdd's next to GPU's that are on the longer end.
9. Pricing and a bit more about construction - I have tried my best to keep the pricing the same, but some of the changes simply dictate the higher price. So the new version will be around 10-15 USD more expensive than the previous one (still waiting for some quotes), but I think this is well worth it, and please let me tell you why. First, the construction. I have found the subcontractor for cutting and bending which has proven to deliver really awesome quality and precision, so I wont be making the most of the bends as before.
Also, I will now have more premium, two coat powdercoating, and better GPU riser, so I really find all of this quality improvements worth the cost. I want to set a certain standard of quality for my customers and myself and I think that is the right way to go, and the price will still be lower than the average for the boutique SFF cases.
Don't forget that you can save some money on motherboard, you can either get the better price on ATX board versus ITX, or you can keep your old board if you are switching to SFF.
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Resources:
Manual:
Download link
Alternative side panels, that mount to holes M3 holes on the case side flanges:
Download link
Dimensions are in mm, scale 1:1 (375 x 339.3 mm)
Of course, I recommend using standoffs for version without ventilation.
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Ok guys, I know that there was a lot of text, but I really want to show you all the changes I have made and the reasoning behind them. I have worked really hard on this one and it was really hard to keep it for myself so long
I hope you like the news, and I can't wait to hear your feedback! I am trying to have cases ready soon, so stay tuned!
Please tell me what you think, and thank you for reading! ?
I am really proud to announce that after a lot of work, and a lot of time, I finally have a new version of P-ATX ready!
New batch is currently in production and available to pre-order on our website:

P-ATX V3 Black (RISER CABLE NOT INCLUDED) | SFF time
SFF time P-ATX V3 is a 10.4 L case that supports full sized ATX motherboards, SFX power supply, and full-length dual slot GPU. This makes it the smallest ATX case on the market! It can also support triple slot GPU with an ITX motherboard. Apart from having exceptionally optimized internal...

First reviews have dropped, please check them out:
Hardware Canucks:
Tech Buyer's Guru:
I know that you like pictures the most, so I will start with pictures of the case:















Before painting, with some parts mounting:













Links to albums:
Few renders:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok, and now let me tell you what's new. There are many changes so I don't even know where to start
Here is the TL;DR version, and after that more detailed one:
- small increase in volume from 9 to 10 liters for better hardware compatibility (only 9 mm wider)
- improved construction and sturdiness, especially with side panels and stand
- clean front panel with usb ports moved to left side and power button to bottom
- new finish - whole case is powdercoated in black or white with texture and better quality powdercoating
- still the same excellent thermal performance, increased ventilation area on the right side so you can flip the PSU
- better quality GPU riser
- now fits taller 2 slot and 3 slot gpu's, and longer gpu's with 120 mm AIO with included 92 mm fan adapter
- increased cpu cooler clearance to 59 mm
- easier to build in and to spec the build thanks to better compatibility
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is the compatibility guide:
GPU COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. Width:
a) default - max triple slot (~62mm)
b) with ATX, m-ATX or m-DTX board - max dual slot (~42mm)
2. Length (for 2 slot gpu’s):
a) default - 370 mm
b) with 120 mm AIO - 245 mm (or 270 mm if using 92 mm fan)
c) with both 3.5 HDD’s installed - 270 mm
d) with more than four 2.5 HDD’s installed - 302 mm
e) with 92mm AIO - 270 mm
3. Length (for 3 slot gpu’s):
a) default - 370 mm
b) with 120 mm AIO - 245 mm
c) with 3.5 HDD - 270 mm
d) with more than two 2.5 HDD’s installed - 302 mm
e) with 92mm AIO - 270 mm
4. Height:
a) default - 140 mm
b) when using motherboard with memory slots in low position – 136 mm
Notes:
* dimensions do not include PCI bracket
* PCI-e riser cable is included with the case.
CPU COOLER COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. Air cooler – up to 59 mm high
2. Water cooling – up to 38 mm thick fan with following block and radiator dimensions:
a) block with tubes exiting from the side – up to 59 mm high
b) block with tubes exiting from the top – up to 39 mm high
c) 120 mm radiator – up to 30 mm thick and 124 mm wide
d) 92 mm radiator – up to 30 mm thick
Notes:
* Please see GPU compatibility for GPU dimension limits with various radiator options.
* Please see HDD compatibility for HDD dimension limits with various radiator options.
HARD DRIVES COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. 3.5” hard drives – two units
2. 2.5” hard drives in lower position – 9.5 mm units with following options:
a) without 3.5” drives – 7 units
b) with one 3.5” drive – 4 units
c) with two 3.5” drives – one unit
3. 2.5” hard drive in upper position – one 7 mm unit
Notes:
* Please see GPU compatibility for GPU dimension limits with various hard drive options.
* HDD support is limited to one 7 mm 2.5” unit if using water cooling
MOTHERBOARD COMPATIBILITY GUIDE:
1. ATX, mini ATX and mini DTX boards with dual slot GPU’s
2. Mini ITX boards with triple slot GPU’s
- MEMORY STICKS – UP TO 64 MM TALL
- POWER SUPPLIES – SFX and SFX-L UP TO 130MM LONG
Note:
* Power supplies with only three mounting screws are not supported
- Wi-Fi ANTENNAS – THREE RP-SMA MOUNTING HOLES ON THE BACK PANEL
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Detailed changelog:
1. Size and volume - ok, so the first and the obvious change is the volume bump from 9 to 10 L. This wasn't an easy decision, but it brings a lot of benefits which I will mention. But I have to say that the only dimension that has changed is the width of the case, which is now around 78 mm.
So the final dimensions are:
378 x 342 x 78 mm, 10.08 L
As you can see, it is only around 9 mm wider than the v1.
2. Construction - the construction has changed quite a bit. I have adopted a different style of folding the main chassis, and also the way that the side panels mount. The mask is now made from 2 mm steel instead of 3 mm aluminum, and the same goes for the stand. Side panels are thicker, at 0.8 mm, have much batter way of attaching to the main chassis which I am very proud of, it works and feels very nice. Main chassis is made from combination of 0.8 and 1 mm steel.
Stand attaches to the case without tools, with tab and slot system, and is more stable than the v1 since it actually holds on to the case.
Few more notes about side panels - ventilation holes (oblongs) are now thinner for more elegant look and to make it harder to put fingers in, but the hole to metal ratio is still the same, so the cooling performance should be the same as with v1. Side panels are now more securely attached on all 4 sides. On front and top with tabs, and on the back with one screw and on bottom with 2 screws, but one is optional, I would only use it if you transfer the case. This makes the case much more rigid with installed side panels. Trust me, it's really strong and has around 2.8 kg (6.2 pounds) so it's not a joke.
Also, I have added few m3 taps on the side flanges that are currently unused, that will allow for future side panel options like acrylic or wood, potentially with spacers.
3. Aesthetics - I tried to make the case look even more elegant with a bit refined ventilation pattern which is no longer split in the center, and the most importantly, with clear front panel! I have moved USB ports to the left side (they also have a wider spacing now) and the power button is moved to the bottom of the case (no power led).
Another big change is that the whole case will now be powdercoated (matte with texture) in single color (I plan to offer black and white), including the mask and the stand. I will have it powdercoated soon and post some pictures.
4. MBO compatibility - still the same, ATX, mATX, ITX, mDTX, but this time with more maneuvering space for ATX and mATX boards so that they are not so crammed like in v1.
5. GPU compatibility - this is the big one. With ATX and mATX boards, you can now fit 2 slot GPU's up to 140 mm tall, regardless on the pcie slot position! This is one of the main reasons I have widened the case.
Also, with ITX boards you can easily fit 3 slot GPU's up to 140 mm tall and 370 mm long, so when using ITX boards you can basically fit almost all of the GPU's on the market. I think that this is a really big deal.
Some cards that are slightly wider than 2 slot but not too tall will fit with ATX and mATX boards.
Another important point, this version will come with better GPU riser, black ADT pcie 3.0, similar to one used in FormD T1.
6. CPU cooler and AIO compatibility - of course, with wider case comes the support for taller air coolers, now up to 59 mm, which really opens up new possibilities.
I have also done something interesting with AIO's, for start they are now much easier to fit because you don't have to bend their tubes so hard.
But also, I will include adapter that allows for installing 92 mm fan on 120 mm AIO, which allows for mounting reference sized GPU's with 120mm AIO at the same time. This is also possible because of the wider chassis, since radiators up to 30 mm thick can now sit under the 2 slot GPU. If you use thicker GPU, such as 3 slot, you can use the same included adapter to mount the 92 mm AIO, no need to buy the extra accessory. Also, I have made AIO mounting holes a bit wider, so you can now mount the case fan in this position without any frills, even with some HDD's installed.
7. PSU compatibility - more rigid bracket for SFX PSU's, that mounts with 2 screws to the psu and with 3 screws to the case (it was 2 in v1).
The news is that now you can rotate psu in both directions (thanks to increased ventilation area on the right panel), so there will be no problems with cable angle. Only downsize of this new bracket is that the old style psu's with asymmetric hole layout (2 one side and 1 on the other) are not supported. Also, the psu sits a bit closer to he top of the case, so there will be more space for cable management and for SFX-L supplies.
8. HDD compatibility - I have redesigned the HDD bracket and mounting from the ground up. Now you can mount the 3.5 drive beneath 2 slot gpu, even a really long one. The bracket supports following combinations:
2x 3.5 + 1x 2.5
1x 3.5 + 4x 2.5
7x 2.5
And one additional 2.5 (7mm thick) drive in the second position, on top of the PSU in all hardware combinations. There is no option to mount the 2.5 drive on top of CPU socket like in the previous version, since I think it's no longer needed.
Also one really important point is the way that the HDD bracket installs, it just slides in from the front, and you only have to secure it with one M3 nut. That means that it is now much easier to install hdd's next to GPU's that are on the longer end.
9. Pricing and a bit more about construction - I have tried my best to keep the pricing the same, but some of the changes simply dictate the higher price. So the new version will be around 10-15 USD more expensive than the previous one (still waiting for some quotes), but I think this is well worth it, and please let me tell you why. First, the construction. I have found the subcontractor for cutting and bending which has proven to deliver really awesome quality and precision, so I wont be making the most of the bends as before.
Also, I will now have more premium, two coat powdercoating, and better GPU riser, so I really find all of this quality improvements worth the cost. I want to set a certain standard of quality for my customers and myself and I think that is the right way to go, and the price will still be lower than the average for the boutique SFF cases.
Don't forget that you can save some money on motherboard, you can either get the better price on ATX board versus ITX, or you can keep your old board if you are switching to SFF.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Resources:
Manual:
Download link
Alternative side panels, that mount to holes M3 holes on the case side flanges:
Download link
Dimensions are in mm, scale 1:1 (375 x 339.3 mm)
Of course, I recommend using standoffs for version without ventilation.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok guys, I know that there was a lot of text, but I really want to show you all the changes I have made and the reasoning behind them. I have worked really hard on this one and it was really hard to keep it for myself so long
I hope you like the news, and I can't wait to hear your feedback! I am trying to have cases ready soon, so stay tuned!
Please tell me what you think, and thank you for reading! ?
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