@KSliger I was wondering if you have ever planned something similar to this to have even more flexibility for Fan, SSD, HDD, etc. And hinged will be great!
Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure
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Hey guys - Finally time for me to start purchasing my equipment! Would love some feedback on my build from those of you more experienced with building in this case, my build is far from the most complex in this thread, but I'm still a little worried I've forgotten to consider something. I'm trying to minimise noise and thermals as much as I can, without going custom loop.
Parts list
Questions:
Parts list
- Case: Cerberus X (Thinking of getting double vented side panels for passive exhaust)
- CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper II 2950x
- CPU Cooler: LIQTECH TR4 II 240mm AIO Bottom mounted
- CPU Cooler Fans: 2x Noctua NF-A12x25
- Motherboard: Asrock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming (ATX)
- Memory: 2x 16GB Crucial DDR4-2666 ECC UDIMM CT16G4WFD8266
- Storage: Samsung 970 evo 1TB M.2 NVMe
- Video Card: Radeon RX Vega56 Air Boost 8G OC (Reference length)
- Video Card Cooler: Raijintek Morpheus II (Would increase thickness of GPU to 3-slot)
- Video card Cooler fans: 2x Noctua NF-A12x25
- Power Supply: Silverstone SX800-LTI SFX-L 800w Titanium (Requires adapter cable for dual eps requirement of x399)
Questions:
- Where would be the best location to mount the PSU for best airflow? I'm thinking back mounted PSU, so I can put an additional two NF-A12x25's in the front
I've heard a lot of people advising against mounting a 280mm AIO in the bottom due to it blocking off some mobo I/O - can anyone help me understand what swapping to the LIQTECH TR4 II 280mm would block off? Would it fit at all? Would it be worth mounting it in the front and sacrificing the two front Fans I'm planning on adding in like shown here by fabioDecided against 280mm - see here- Should i consider custom PSU cables? Aesthetics aren't a consideration for me, but if slimmer cables would provide better airflow, then I would consider custom cables.
- Case fan pressure, and fan direction has always confused me - assuming i use the bottom + front dust filters that were posted a few pages back (Thanks @matthewn4444 @KSliger !) would the below be correct?
- 2x CPU fans on bottom mounted AIO: Push
- 2x GPU Fans: Push
- 2x Front Fans: Pull
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Welcome to Cerberus owner club!
Regarding your setup, if you want the best cooling (in-line with 9900K), I suggest you go to smallest customed watercooling with combination of Swiftech Apogree Drivee II (cpu block, DDC pump) and radiator/reservoir MCR220-QP-RES-R2
That's the best cooling solution with dual NF A12-25 fans..(full DDC pump only spinning at 1200rpm, great cpu copper waterblock, copper radiator).
For the look you can play with tubing,liquid, etc...
Check my setup, I've this setup in place and it works like a charm in silence and efficiency.
If you want to stick on Asetek AIO like, well they are all based on same design : asetek pump (low pressure, high rpm and fragile), aluminium radiator...they perform almost the same with same fans...so pick-up what ever you prefer in look.
On top bracket, you can put slim fan (15mm) with no motherboard compatibility issues.
@MarcParis
Can you add a gpu block and or another rad to the loop with the Apogee 2?
Toying with putting my Vega under water somehow
Does the announced SSD tray not mount on lower set of screws?@KSliger I was wondering if you have ever planned something similar to this to have even more flexibility for Fan, SSD, HDD, etc. And hinged will be great!
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Of course this is 100% expandable and easy to fill the loop as you have a true reservoir (dislike EK predator).
Pump is also powerful enough (in previous release you were also able to replace it by a full DDC pump) to include a gpu with no issue
@KSliger I was wondering if you have ever planned something similar to this to have even more flexibility for Fan, SSD, HDD, etc. And hinged will be great!
Yes I noticed that also...unused screw holes on the right are perfectly aligned for a second hinge bracket..
I'm betting for an earlier design on which is based tooling..
Could be also doable only on Cerberus-x (not sure if Cerberus has them)
But it's true, dual hinge bracket will be cool for cooling option..
check your motherboard on what those would be
(applies to both Cerberuses. CX is just C with 3 extra PCI slots of height)
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I guess so, I was suggesting it, as a choice like the top options. This case can even more perfect than what it is!
BTW, because we are talking about a few suggestions, @KSliger , maybe in a next REV, if you add 2/3 mm on top, or shift the same amount down the ATX PSU, will be possible to mount also with an ATX PSU x2 top slim fans with your top bracket! (Now the only option is the terrible schythe slipstream slim).
Thank you!
I'm conflicted right now with the CPU for my build. Should I buy the 1920x for $397 (and possibly replace it with Zen 2) or bite the bullet and get either the 2920x/2950x?
Edit: bought fittings and radiators instead.
Edit: bought fittings and radiators instead.
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I bought the ones @KSliger linked to https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...x-usa-made-enclosure.454/page-249#post-117840
These are for the Cerberus iirc. The bottom one should be the same for both. The front one needs to be larger for the Cerberus x.
Let's be practical.
Will you use of 16 cores of Zen +? Gap between zen and zen + is minimal, especially on threardripper as AMD used their best chip on threadripper.
Zen 2 cores are announced with noticeable IPC improvement vs Zen+.
To be honest, at your place, I'll go for robust&durable X499 motherboard and go for cheap 1920X. Next summer (I presume), at zen 2 threadripper release you switch..
I’ve ordered everything except the fans and pump/res. Pulled the trigger on 1920x. I’m in saving mode now haha.Let's be practical.
Will you use of 16 cores of Zen +? Gap between zen and zen + is minimal, especially on threardripper as AMD used their best chip on threadripper.
Zen 2 cores are announced with noticeable IPC improvement vs Zen+.
To be honest, at your place, I'll go for robust&durable X499 motherboard and go for cheap 1920X. Next summer (I presume), at zen 2 threadripper release you switch..
I’ll be selling off the motherboard, cpu, psu, ram, and the old case once the new build is completed to recoup some of the money.
check your motherboard on what those would be
(applies to both Cerberuses. CX is just C with 3 extra PCI slots of height)
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Thanks for those diagrams, and example - that's super helpful. The example you've shown also shows me the gpu with the Morpheus II will fit in one of the top PCIe slots without blocking off the AIO. Awesome.
The board in the above is the Taichi, but it's layout is almost identical to the fatal1ty. Looks like it'd be pretty bad, that picture shows it blocking off everything from the bottom PCIe slot down. Main issue will be the Pins and debug screen.
Anyone able to confirm whether there'd be any space between the rad and mobo to plug the pins in?
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Actually - looking at reviews, there only seems to be about a 4c difference under load between the 240mm and 360mm. (And that's got an extra fan!) There should be hardly any difference between the 240mm/280mm. The meager improvement will not be worth the hassle the 280mm will cause.
Looks like the 240mm is the way to go, as everyone has already been saying
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I was in the same boat, I've now purchased the 2950x - but only because I managed to snag a deal I couldn't refuse! Unless your workload now currently requires the 16c/32t of the 1950x/2950x - going 1920x and then upgrading later down the track to zen 3 is a good move
@KSliger
Just noticed the Cerberus X links in the front page are dead. Not sure if you'd have to get @Aibohphobia to fix them, or if a mod can step in to edit them?
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