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Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure
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Ahah I understand. I nearly pulled the trigger yesterday to replace my dear GT to noctua nf A12x25...They are performing similarly at load (similar noise/efficiency ratio)...however noctua is better at lower rpm range (down to 400rpm) where GT is only going to 900 (not disturbing)...but GT are black..Thanks! I really like the Cerberus size, and especially the build quality - that powder coating is soooo nice. I had a Cerberus X case sitting for several months, but it was just a little too tall for my needs at the moment. I finally picked up the mATX size with the recent discount
I really like the cooling aspect of this size. It allows me to put in a 240mm AIO with lots of room to breath.
I might put some black vinyl wrap over the PSU label. I wanted to test the best-in-class A12x25 first, before swapping in the 1700rpm redux fans, or alternative (e.g. Dark Side GTs)
So switching to Noctua nf a12x25 will make my Cerberus-X virtually silent (low, low noise at idle)...but Noctua color scheme could hurt my eyes as I saw them..
(also if I switch..all my fans will be from Noctua..)After there is also RGB Vardar evo to be checked.
Well, well, at last, here is an very interesting fan review allowing to compare, Dark Side Gentle Typhoon, Noctua NF A12x25 and Vardar EVO 120ER RGB.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EKWB/Vardar_EVO_120ER_RGB/4.html
Apparently they are using/carrying over data/protocal from ThermalBench.com .. (protocole)
However they simplified output with 4 speeds comparison (750, 1000, 1250 & 1500 rpm)
I just focus on 1500rpm :
Well Noctua and GT are performing equally, but NF A12x25 is less noisy than GT 1850rpm (I agree with that and I also saw that my GT 2150 are less noisy than my GT 1850..not so weird as GT 2150 has different motor with different rpm range : 900-2150 vs 550-1850).
Vardar are a step below, clearly...but more powerful and noisier..
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EKWB/Vardar_EVO_120ER_RGB/4.html
Apparently they are using/carrying over data/protocal from ThermalBench.com ..
(protocole)However they simplified output with 4 speeds comparison (750, 1000, 1250 & 1500 rpm)
I just focus on 1500rpm :
- Noctua nf a12x25 : 34.4CFM @36.4dB
- Dark side Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm (PWM) : 34.3CFM @42.3dB
- Vardar Evo 120ER RGB : 37.1CFM @45.5dB
Well Noctua and GT are performing equally, but NF A12x25 is less noisy than GT 1850rpm (I agree with that and I also saw that my GT 2150 are less noisy than my GT 1850..not so weird as GT 2150 has different motor with different rpm range : 900-2150 vs 550-1850).
Vardar are a step below, clearly...but more powerful and noisier..
Well you just convinced me that black color scheme is so much better than brown noctua one..Ok cleaned up the build a little bit...
As soon as Noctua released black version of their nf a 12x25 I'll buy them..
even superman screams when using his last 10% of his strength
Received my Enermax Liqtech TR4 II 240 earlier in the week - talked to support and they confirmed that only units with serial numbers starting with 1807XX were found to be defective.
FYI for others buying this liquid cooler, check the serial number.
FYI for others buying this liquid cooler, check the serial number.
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My Cerberus X is on the way! Thanks to VegetableStu for all the pics and technical diagrams/measurements, and to loader963 for some practical advice on going with the Cerberus X instead of the Cerberus.
The only thing I feel is missing that I'd love to have is front or top audio jacks. I'd love to hear/see what solutions others have come up with. If you have any good ideas, I'd love to read them!
The only thing I feel is missing that I'd love to have is front or top audio jacks. I'd love to hear/see what solutions others have come up with. If you have any good ideas, I'd love to read them!
Good news everyone!
My Cerberus X came in!
Bad news: My SSI EEB (12"x13") Z9PE-D16 board has no hope of fitting.
But my Z9PA-D8 does!
My Cerberus X came in!
Bad news: My SSI EEB (12"x13") Z9PE-D16 board has no hope of fitting.
But my Z9PA-D8 does!
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lol. the stock RGB fans that came with the Enermax AIO are actually great with moving air through the radiator. They kept noise down (subjectively speaking) while keeping the CPU cool during Prime 95 + Heaven:Well you just convinced me that black color scheme is so much better than brown noctua one..
As soon as Noctua released black version of their nf a 12x25 I'll buy them..
Delidded 6700K: 60c
RTX 2080FE: 75c
Both cpu and gpu idle at 30c (ambient basement office temperature chilly at about 20c)
I guess I didn't do enough research, I thought that a 280mm AIO could fit with an mATX mobo in the regular Cerberus, but it definitely doesn't fit. Time to order a 240mm AIO.
I think the pics are broken?Good news everyone!
My Cerberus X came in!
Bad news: My SSI EEB (12"x13") Z9PE-D16 board has no hope of fitting.
But my Z9PA-D8 does!
nonpublic google drive images ,_,Bad news: My SSI EEB (12"x13") Z9PE-D16 board has no hope of fitting.
But my Z9PA-D8 does!
Which model of 280mm AIO is this?
Most are almost zero clearance from the motherboard, but it should fit.
That’s why i’m recommending to stick 240mm radiator inside cerberus/x...less headaches..
Any chance that anyone has a spare Heatkiller Tube Basic Mounting Kit they'd be willing to sell me? Can't find this outside of importing it from Germany...
https://modmymods.com/watercool-heatkillerr-tube-basic-mounting-kit-30236-4124.html
Alternatively, if someone has an idea for how to mount the heatkiller to a fan that doesn't require this kit I'm all ears.
https://modmymods.com/watercool-heatkillerr-tube-basic-mounting-kit-30236-4124.html
Alternatively, if someone has an idea for how to mount the heatkiller to a fan that doesn't require this kit I'm all ears.
as long as it works o_o i think a cloud drive service might be a bit overkill for doing quick public shares (having to set permissions per file/folder; chance of accidentally sharing something not intended for internet...)
Finally finished the full loop, so thought I should drop some impressions. After a severely mediocre experience with Watercool, I ordered an XSPC block for my RTX 2080FE. I wasn't sure what to expect, but damn, it sure feels nice. It was on the expensive side (likely partially due to the LEDs included that I didn't install) and I was hoping to save some dough by going all acetal, but the Razor Neo block fit the bill and I was ready to wrap up the project. Also, I really liked that I could use the stock backplate.
Temps are surprising but good. Before, with the CPU on water and the RTX stock cooler, I was getting ~70C and ~75C, respectively. Plus, the fans on the FE cooler are pretty dang loud, and the open air cooler really liked to warm up my HDDs (up to ~50C). It was extra noisy too on account of having had a defective fan.
With the block installed, I'm getting ~80C on CPU and ~40C on GPU. This is running Prime95 + Heaven for about twenty minutes or so. I feel pretty confident the temps had normalized. Honestly, I didn't expect the GPU to be so low, especially since I'm only running the single 240 rad.
So like, not stellar, but I'm very satisfied, especially since it's dead quiet. Definitely no room for any OCs though. Even though the CPU is on the hot side (but still safe), with the lower temps between the GPU and HDDs (now 34C) - plus no noise - I think the trade-off is worth it.
Some pretty awesome builds around here. @fabio killing it with those tight clearances. Would love to see a shot with everything loaded up once you're finished.
Temps are surprising but good. Before, with the CPU on water and the RTX stock cooler, I was getting ~70C and ~75C, respectively. Plus, the fans on the FE cooler are pretty dang loud, and the open air cooler really liked to warm up my HDDs (up to ~50C). It was extra noisy too on account of having had a defective fan.
With the block installed, I'm getting ~80C on CPU and ~40C on GPU. This is running Prime95 + Heaven for about twenty minutes or so. I feel pretty confident the temps had normalized. Honestly, I didn't expect the GPU to be so low, especially since I'm only running the single 240 rad.
So like, not stellar, but I'm very satisfied, especially since it's dead quiet. Definitely no room for any OCs though. Even though the CPU is on the hot side (but still safe), with the lower temps between the GPU and HDDs (now 34C) - plus no noise - I think the trade-off is worth it.
Some pretty awesome builds around here. @fabio killing it with those tight clearances. Would love to see a shot with everything loaded up once you're finished.
Hi everyone, I've been admiring this case since it was in development and am now thinking of downsizing my current ATX rig and getting back into the sff scene. I have some questions about this case, is it viable for an all air cooling setup to start with? What is the best fan placement with the sfx psu mounted at the front with the window side panel config? or is it best to ditch the window and go with the vented side panel for air?
Impressive setup!Finally finished the full loop, so thought I should drop some impressions. After a severely mediocre experience with Watercool, I ordered an XSPC block for my RTX 2080FE. I wasn't sure what to expect, but damn, it sure feels nice. It was on the expensive side (likely partially due to the LEDs included that I didn't install) and I was hoping to save some dough by going all acetal, but the Razor Neo block fit the bill and I was ready to wrap up the project. Also, I really liked that I could use the stock backplate.
Temps are surprising but good. Before, with the CPU on water and the RTX stock cooler, I was getting ~70C and ~75C, respectively. Plus, the fans on the FE cooler are pretty dang loud, and the open air cooler really liked to warm up my HDDs (up to ~50C). It was extra noisy too on account of having had a defective fan.
With the block installed, I'm getting ~80C on CPU and ~40C on GPU. This is running Prime95 + Heaven for about twenty minutes or so. I feel pretty confident the temps had normalized. Honestly, I didn't expect the GPU to be so low, especially since I'm only running the single 240 rad.
So like, not stellar, but I'm very satisfied, especially since it's dead quiet. Definitely no room for any OCs though. Even though the CPU is on the hot side (but still safe), with the lower temps between the GPU and HDDs (now 34C) - plus no noise - I think the trade-off is worth it.
Some pretty awesome builds around here. @fabio killing it with those tight clearances. Would love to see a shot with everything loaded up once you're finished.
What is your cpu? Its temperature seems high (but maybe it's a 9900K...or any cpu with severe heat bottleneck, like almost all recent intel cpu..
)Just be careful your coolant does not goes above 60°C
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