ASRock’s X600 DeskMini – Finally – Again

Years ago, the SFF community waited with bated breath for the ASRock DeskMini A300. With AMD APU support, it offered a better balance than Intel chips between the CPU and GPU. This SFF Gem was the ideal Deskmini, and the SFF Network community rallied around it by creating custom 3D printed cases, BIOS updates, and more.
Now, the times have changed and AMD’s AM5 platform has arrived. Again, the SFF community waited. It felt like ages but ASRocks X600 DeskMini is finally here.
Asrock was kind enough to send a sample unit to Small Form Factor Network for testing and review. No review guidance was...

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[SFFMunkee]

There are no cooling restrictions for a M-STX board if you use an Akasa case. And 180W settings are not new, my H470M-STX had them too.

That case looks suspiciously useful if you were to mod a dual-slot GPU in there. Although maybe it's too thin

 

[SFFMunkee]

Hi,

I saw in a picture on heise.de that the x600 chip can provide 28 PCIe5 lanes in conjunction with a suitable CPU. Does anyone know why I can't use it on this board? The pcie x16 slot is only pcie4 in the specs.

AMD bestätigt chiplosen Chipsatz X600 für Ryzen 7000

Für Embedded-Systeme bietet AMD nun auch Prozessoren mit Zen-4-Architektur und langer Verfügbarkeit an. Zudem kommt ein Chipsatz für kompakte Boards.

www.heise.de

direkt link to the picture:

https://heise.cloudimg.io/v7/_www-heise-de_/imgs/18/4/4/9/8/5/0/9/AMD_Ryzen_Embedded_7000-34676ce17bbc1814.png?org_if_sml=1&q=70&width=1600

Yes, per your linked article, Zen4 has 28x PCIe5.0 lanes on the onboard IO controller



So I mean it's theoretically possible, but I'm not sure you'll ever see it happen, it would depend on how board manufacturers design the PCB in terms of physical/electrical/signal performance but more importantly how they would be able to market it and actually make money. I'm not entirely sure how it's relevant to this board, however, as there's no x16 slot anyway - only 2x M.2 slots (one of each 5.0 and 4.0)

 

[NF117]

Oh sry i see the x16 slot on the x600-itx board. The x600m-stx only have 2x M.2 slots. Same Question: why only one with gen5.

 

[Gidilo]

Oh sry i see the x16 slot on the x600-itx board. The x600m-stx only have 2x M.2 slots. Same Question: why only one with gen5.

Signal integrity and total lanes from the IO die. Remember it doesn't have a chipset in the usual sense

 

[Ghostrider419]

I also just built an X600m with the 8700G for an office environment. I am getting black screens randomly. They are not playing any games on this.
I bought the Kingston 6000mhz instead of the 6400 like everyone else in here.
Dual monitors, one HDMI and one DP.
I turned off EXPO profiles and it still happening (It was at 6000 at first). Turned off PBO and set the TDP back to Auto, still getting blackouts.
So first I guess I should check the cables. I see others getting the black screens. I did see someone say the Ram was getting hot.
What is a good program to check RAM temperatures?
Also are you guys downloading drivers from AMD or just using the ASRock drivers?

8700G
KF560S38IBK2-32
Thermalright axp90-x47 full copper - with a Noctua NF-A9x14 fan (The Thermalright fan was scraping the top of the case)
Thermalright HR-09 2280 SSD Heatsink
Updated to newest stable BIOS, not the alpha.

 

[SFFMunkee]

I also just built an X600m with the 8700G for an office environment. I am getting black screens randomly. They are not playing any games on this.
I bought the Kingston 6000mhz instead of the 6400 like everyone else in here.
Dual monitors, one HDMI and one DP.
I turned off EXPO profiles and it still happening (It was at 6000 at first). Turned off PBO and set the TDP back to Auto, still getting blackouts.
So first I guess I should check the cables. I see others getting the black screens. I did see someone say the Ram was getting hot.
What is a good program to check RAM temperatures?
Also are you guys downloading drivers from AMD or just using the ASRock drivers?

8700G
KF560S38IBK2-32
Thermalright axp90-x47 full copper - with a Noctua NF-A9x14 fan (The Thermalright fan was scraping the top of the case)
Thermalright HR-09 2280 SSD Heatsink
Updated to newest stable BIOS, not the alpha.

I tend to use HWinfo for monitoring temps, and I always use the latest drivers from AMD directly

Is it just the monitor that goes black? I.e. it's not powering off, freezing or crashing?

 

[Ghostrider419]

I tend to use HWinfo for monitoring temps, and I always use the latest drivers from AMD directly

Is it just the monitor that goes black? I.e. it's not powering off, freezing or crashing?

It was going black and going to sleep. It was closing apps and returning to the lock screen. I disabled sleep mode in Windows and now just occasional black screens, then it's fine for awhile

 

[SFFMunkee]

It was going black and going to sleep. It was closing apps and returning to the lock screen. I disabled sleep mode in Windows and now just occasional black screens, then it's fine for awhile

Very weird. Probably more extreme than necessary but have you tried the 35W TDP/ PPT mode?

 

[Quango]

I also just built an X600m with the 8700G for an office environment. I am getting black screens randomly. They are not playing any games on this.
I bought the Kingston 6000mhz instead of the 6400 like everyone else in here.
Dual monitors, one HDMI and one DP.
I turned off EXPO profiles and it still happening (It was at 6000 at first). Turned off PBO and set the TDP back to Auto, still getting blackouts.
So first I guess I should check the cables. I see others getting the black screens. I did see someone say the Ram was getting hot.
What is a good program to check RAM temperatures?
Also are you guys downloading drivers from AMD or just using the ASRock drivers?

8700G
KF560S38IBK2-32
Thermalright axp90-x47 full copper - with a Noctua NF-A9x14 fan (The Thermalright fan was scraping the top of the case)
Thermalright HR-09 2280 SSD Heatsink
Updated to newest stable BIOS, not the alpha.

I've had to experiment a lot with RAM on my now useless Minisforum UM790 Pro. It has the Phoenix R9 7940HX with the Radeon 780M and uses DDR5-6400 SODIMMs. It actually has a (noisy) RAM fan - and needs it.
You can make and watch (with HWinfo) the RAM temps rise by enabling HDR in Windows for your monitor and play AV1 4K60 HDR videos on youtube. 4K60 HDR is important, because anything less is also less demanding on RAM usage. Now you can watch the temps rising slowly minute by minute.

 

[Ghostrider419]

Very weird. Probably more extreme than necessary but have you tried the 35W TDP/ PPT mode?

I haven't yet. I'm going to get the computer back this weekend and work on it. I will tell you what I find out.

 

[Ghostrider419]

I haven't yet. I'm going to get the computer back this weekend and work on it. I will tell you what I find out.

The error in event log is Event 4101, Display. Display driver amduw23g stopped responding and successfully recovered. I installed Adrenaline, maybe if I update the drivers it will correct the issue.

 

[Ghostrider419]

Very weird. Probably more extreme than necessary but have you tried the 35W TDP/ PPT mode?

The error in event log is Event 4101, Display. Display driver amduw23g stopped responding and successfully recovered.
I installed Adrenaline, and updated all the drivers.
I also enabled the XMP profile for 6000mhz

I am running a 4320p video full screen on an ultrawide and running Cinebench multi core on another screen. The CPU is 90.6 C , but the APU is 74 C and RAM is 62-67 C. Which isn't too bad. No black screens.
It did happen once right after rebooting from driver installation.

Should I try doing something else?

 

[SFFMunkee]

The error in event log is Event 4101, Display. Display driver amduw23g stopped responding and successfully recovered.
I installed Adrenaline, and updated all the drivers.
I also enabled the XMP profile for 6000mhz

I am running a 4320p video full screen on an ultrawide and running Cinebench multi core on another screen. The CPU is 90.6 C , but the APU is 74 C and RAM is 62-67 C. Which isn't too bad. No black screens.
It did happen once right after rebooting from driver installation.

Should I try doing something else?

What physical cable are you using? I remember having a bunch of issues a while back with a DisplayPort cable that wasn't up to scratch and kept dropping signal

 

[f666]

hello all, am looking at a new x600 build, think this is my preference over a x300, as the there seems more flexibility looking ahead. The premium of going AM5 is only 80GBP also. Looking at :

x600
8500g cpu
Noctua NH-L9a-AM5
Corsair Vengeance SODIMM 32GB (1x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
WD black SN850x 4tb

any concerns with this configuration?
Looks like bios features and stability should also improve for the AM5 x600 vs x300 AM4 route?
Modding and 3d printing options looks great also (need to look at getting a 3d printer :-) )

 

[Ghostrider419]

hello all, am looking at a new x600 build, think this is my preference over a x300, as the there seems more flexibility looking ahead. The premium of going AM5 is only 80GBP also. Looking at :

x600
8500g cpu
Noctua NH-L9a-AM5
Corsair Vengeance SODIMM 32GB (1x32GB) DDR4 3200MHz
WD black SN850x 4tb

any concerns with this configuration?
Looks like bios features and stability should also improve for the AM5 x600 vs x300 AM4 route?
Modding and 3d printing options looks great also (need to look at getting a 3d printer :-) )

The RAM needs to be DDR5.

 

[f666]

The RAM needs to be DDR5.

Hah ha yes!

 

[lord]

Did anyone test it with Ryzen PRO and ECC UDIMM memory? Still hope there is unofficial ECC support...