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ASRock’s X600 DeskMini – Finally – Again
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New TEST BIOS "4.03.MEM01" with AGESA firmware "1.2.0.0a" with RAM voltage settings!!! and Zen5 "Granite Ridge" CPU support.
In this main thread: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...age-settings-agesa-comboam5pi-1-2-0-0a.19726/
In this main thread: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...age-settings-agesa-comboam5pi-1-2-0-0a.19726/
So my deskmini is behaving itself with fury ram set to 6400 and an 8700g. The noctua fan is working alot when gaming but the worst temperature is the CPU die at 85 c. Using fedora 40 and can't quite figure out which sensor is the ram temp. I can't see how one could overclock this with the stock case. Anyway it's a good system. I had a go at installing windows 11 for dual boot but couldn't figure out how to load the missing drivers at install time so left it. I've used Linux mainly for 20 years and it seems have become used to the kernel having the driver's needed.
Touch a memory module during some load and see which sensor goes down
For those who would like a DDR5 SO-DIMM 6400MHz CL38 kit in 48GB (2x24G, SKHynix M-Die chips), 64GB (2x32G, SKHynix A-Die chips) or 96GB (2x48G, SKHynix M-Die chips), they are now available for order online (international shipping possible) at V-Color.
The quality seems to be there with the use of 10-layer PCB and an operating voltage similar to the equivalent Kingston kits with 1.35v. But the prices are somewhat... prohibitive
with 374usd for a 64GB 6400MHz DDR5 SO-DIMM kit of 2 sticks of 32GB 6400MHz, where you can now find quite easily the 32GB (2x16G SKHynix A-Die chips) Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38 kit for only about 140usd.
For your information, these new V-Color kits are all listed as compatible on the official "Memory QVL" of the DeskMini X600.
You can see it here if you feel like it:
v-color.net
The quality seems to be there with the use of 10-layer PCB and an operating voltage similar to the equivalent Kingston kits with 1.35v. But the prices are somewhat... prohibitive
with 374usd for a 64GB 6400MHz DDR5 SO-DIMM kit of 2 sticks of 32GB 6400MHz, where you can now find quite easily the 32GB (2x16G SKHynix A-Die chips) Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38 kit for only about 140usd.For your information, these new V-Color kits are all listed as compatible on the official "Memory QVL" of the DeskMini X600.
You can see it here if you feel like it:
DDR5 | OC SO-DIMM | Laptop Memory
【HIGH PERFORMANCE ENSURED】 Introducing our top-tier DDR5 Overclocked SO-DIMM RAM module, specifically designed for laptops and notebooks. Featuring strictly audited SK Hynix DRAM chips and high-quality 10-layer PCBs, each DRAM IC undergoes rigorous testing in our fully automated processing...
v-color.net
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The l9a protrudes further in one direction than the other. So if you install it in the right orientation (heatpipe tips towards rear IO) you have no issue with the m.2 heatsink
Heads up to anyone wanting to use the Wraith Stealth cooler in the DeskMini X600. The one that came bundled with my 8600G is too big to fit, even after removing the outer shell like everyone says. It's a few mm too tall and ends up grinding against the ceiling if I try to force it in. I had to use the ASRock cooler instead.
It turns out there are multiple models of the Wraith Stealth. It could have either:
- 5 or 7 fan blades
- a glued-on or screwed-in outer shell
- the fan resting directly against the heat sink or raised a few mm above it
Mine is "712-000046 Rev: D" which has 5 blades, a screwed-in shell, and a raised fan.
In this build video by ETA Prime, he has one of the glued models, which does fit.
It turns out there are multiple models of the Wraith Stealth. It could have either:
- 5 or 7 fan blades
- a glued-on or screwed-in outer shell
- the fan resting directly against the heat sink or raised a few mm above it
Mine is "712-000046 Rev: D" which has 5 blades, a screwed-in shell, and a raised fan.
In this build video by ETA Prime, he has one of the glued models, which does fit.
i had a similar experience, my top shell was screwed on ... but i noticed it only after i removed it ... i made it kinda work with the deskmini after shaving of a milimeter of the edge. Still not perfect but the case didn't buldge as much anymore.
My old Wraith Stealth from my 2200g was not screwed and fit the deskmini after removing the top shell.
My old Wraith Stealth from my 2200g was not screwed and fit the deskmini after removing the top shell.
I'm hoping someone can give me some advice. I have Kingston DDR5-6400 memory, but the DeskMini is recognizing it as DDR5-4800. Below is a screenshot from BIOS after choosing the appropriate XMP profile. It says "DDR5-4800-16GB @6400Mhz", which I thought meant "the default speed is DDR5-4800 and you're overclocking to DDR5-6400". After watching some reviews on YouTube for comparison, I'm realizing mine is wrong. It should read "DDR5-6400-16GB @6400Mhz".
BIOS is the latest (4.03) and I've already cleared CMOS (disconnected the battery for 10 mins). My next thought was that I received counterfeit RAM from Amazon, but CPU-X and dmidecode are correctly reporting the part number as KF564S38-16, which is printed on the package and the sticks themselves. Like BIOS, they report a "speed" of 4800 and a "configured speed" of 6400.
This is a problem because when I enable XMP, the screen becomes filled with flickering/snowing artifacts. I've been troubleshooting this for a long time and only now realized the incorrect speed, which I'm guessing is the root of the problem.
BIOS is the latest (4.03) and I've already cleared CMOS (disconnected the battery for 10 mins). My next thought was that I received counterfeit RAM from Amazon, but CPU-X and dmidecode are correctly reporting the part number as KF564S38-16, which is printed on the package and the sticks themselves. Like BIOS, they report a "speed" of 4800 and a "configured speed" of 6400.
This is a problem because when I enable XMP, the screen becomes filled with flickering/snowing artifacts. I've been troubleshooting this for a long time and only now realized the incorrect speed, which I'm guessing is the root of the problem.
I'm hoping someone can give me some advice. I have Kingston DDR5-6400 memory, but the DeskMini is recognizing it as DDR5-4800. Below is a screenshot from BIOS after choosing the appropriate XMP profile. It says "DDR5-4800-16GB @6400Mhz", which I thought meant "the default speed is DDR5-4800 and you're overclocking to DDR5-6400". After watching some reviews on YouTube for comparison, I'm realizing mine is wrong. It should read "DDR5-6400-16GB @6400Mhz".
BIOS is the latest (4.03) and I've already cleared CMOS (disconnected the battery for 10 mins). My next thought was that I received counterfeit RAM from Amazon, but CPU-X and dmidecode are correctly reporting the part number as KF564S38-16, which is printed on the package and the sticks themselves. Like BIOS, they report a "speed" of 4800 and a "configured speed" of 6400.
This is a problem because when I enable XMP, the screen becomes filled with flickering/snowing artifacts. I've been troubleshooting this for a long time and only now realized the incorrect speed, which I'm guessing is the root of the problem.
Looks right to me. most ddr5 jedec is 4800 (there are newer models with jedec 5200).
once you turn on xmp, here it overclocks to 6400 configured. the reason you are getting artifacts is because the xmp is applying only 1.1v at 6400, it is not enough voltage and your OS becomes unstable.
Why your xmp profile is not applying correct voltage is weird, likely another bios bug. 6400 should be 1.35v xmp.
I see you have latest 4.03 bios, it does not have manual dram voltage control, else you could manually increase from 1.1v to 1.25~1.3v.
Zentimings before and after XMP, respectively. The voltages look correct, so it must be something else.
There weren't any artifacts with the default Microsoft drivers, but they showed up as soon as I installed AMD drivers (AMD Software Adrenalin Edition). This leads me to believe it's a driver/software problem, but I still can't make sense of it. For example, on Windows the artifacts temporarily disappear when running a fullscreen game (BallisticNG). On Fedora, the artifacts are always there, regardless of which kernel I choose in GRUB or whether the session is Wayland or X11. For reference, it looks like this.
There weren't any artifacts with the default Microsoft drivers, but they showed up as soon as I installed AMD drivers (AMD Software Adrenalin Edition). This leads me to believe it's a driver/software problem, but I still can't make sense of it. For example, on Windows the artifacts temporarily disappear when running a fullscreen game (BallisticNG). On Fedora, the artifacts are always there, regardless of which kernel I choose in GRUB or whether the session is Wayland or X11. For reference, it looks like this.
What value do you use? I tried intervals of 10 from 1000 down to 890, but they all had the same result.
I can only guess I either damaged something when I tried to shove in the Wraith Stealth cooler described a few posts up, or lost the silicon lottery with some component. Anyway, 4800 MT/s has been fine for my daily use, so I'll just leave it alone.
Unfortunately, I don't have a DP cable or monitor to test, but it snows in both HDMI and VGA.
Edit: Just to summarize everything I've done so far:
- All the usual troubleshooting like reseating the RAM and CPU, resetting CMOS, different cables and monitors, different distros, etc.
- Ran Memtest86+ with XMP on and off. No errors.
- Installed BIOS version 4.03.MEM01 and set the voltages and timings described in this article, section "DDR5 Memory Overclocking and Tuning" to the best of my ability (granted, it's for the 8700G, but I figured the 8600G was similar enough).
The only lead I have is that they magically disappear when playing a fullscreen game on Windows.
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Can you clarify the above statements to help us understand the cause of the problem, XMP or drivers?
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