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Prebuilt [SFFn] ASRock's DeskMini A300 - Finally!

Dr. Nick

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Sep 2, 2024
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I don't see any advantage of the 3.70E BIOS to just flashing the X300 BIOS. The 3.70E looks like a hacked X300 BIOS anyway, it has the exact same disadvantage regarding the soft brick when saving the BIOS settings. I recommend flashing A300 3.60S/U first, then flashing 3.70E or better X300 L1.82 with AGESA 1.2.0.Cc (and when going back to A300 BIOS go back to 3.60S, otherwise you could brick the A300 - bad idea without a CH341A).
Regarding editing and saving BIOS settings I use UMAF, works fine. :)
 
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indrade

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Sep 26, 2024
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Hi guys, I managed to upgrade the BIOS for my A300 into version 3.70E, and the PC is looking good running Ryzen 5600G.

When I checked the CPU temperature, it's between 60-64 degrees Celcius. I am using wraith cooler from AMD. Is this ok? I heard noctua cooleer is better, just a bit pricey here.
 

Dr. Nick

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Sep 2, 2024
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Hi guys, I managed to upgrade the BIOS for my A300 into version 3.70E, and the PC is looking good running Ryzen 5600G.

When I checked the CPU temperature, it's between 60-64 degrees Celcius. I am using wraith cooler from AMD. Is this ok? I heard noctua cooleer is better, just a bit pricey here.
60° - 64°C during idle would be far too much, although it also depends on the fan settings. Those temps during load would be pretty nice. ;)
I've Noctua coolers in my Deskminis, and they idle between 33° - 35°C. I use custom fan settings though, with a little higher RPMs (around 1000) in idle to keep it a bit cooler.
 
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indrade

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Sep 26, 2024
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my old box is periodically experiencing similar issue on 3.60S, I don't have to clear CMOS pins though, I disconnect the power (and long-press the power btn just in case for a couple of seconds), replug and it works... asrock bios quality is the best!)

regarding the latest A300 bios v3.70E:
Is everyone who flashed it experiencing the inability to save settings (mentioned earlier) or is it configuration-dependent (or what was flashed previously) ?


asking because I have a chance to snag a 5600g for a pretty nice price (to upgrade from 3400g), but If I can't change bios settings that would be a dealbreaker for such a swap.
confim can't save BIOS setting with 3.70E. got soft brick, and need to disconnect/reconnect cmos cable.
 
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indrade

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Sep 26, 2024
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60° - 64°C during idle would be far too much, although it also depends on the fan settings. Those temps during load would be pretty nice. ;)
I've Noctua coolers in my Deskminis, and they idle between 33° - 35°C. I use custom fan settings though, with a little higher RPMs (around 1000) in idle to keep it a bit cooler.
hello,

For my case 60 degrees on BIOS, but around 40 degrees (checked with Core Temp) during idle in Windows. strange?
 

Dr. Nick

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hello,

For my case 60 degrees on BIOS, but around 40 degrees (checked with Core Temp) during idle in Windows. strange?
No, I've to say the temps I mentioned are what Ryzen Master shows, the temps in other tools or BIOS are usually higher (although there's a difference between CPU and CPU Diode, e.g. in AIDA64). In Windows idle the CPU power saving is on, thus the lower temps.
 

Dr. Nick

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Sep 2, 2024
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confim can't save BIOS setting with 3.70E. got soft brick, and need to disconnect/reconnect cmos cable.
Yeah, you've to use UMAF, I mentioned above. Thus I see no advantage of 3.70E, just flash X300 P1.90 and done - latest AGESA 1.2.0.Cc. ;)
 
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chuckster

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Aug 13, 2024
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Hi everyone,
Would appreciate some help advice on the following issue:
GPU constantly and randomly crashes on anything with HW acceleration (browsing and video in browsers in Skype/Teams).
Either a driver crash detected by AMD software +monitor scaling is reset, driver switched to limp-mode or a black screen.
Restart fixes it for a short time. This has been happening for months with varying frequency.

System config:
A300 (3.60U bios) with 3400G and 32gb RAM (non-XMP, JEDEC @2400), issue also was with 16gb 2666 (non XMP).
4K monitor @60hz via DP (turned down to 8bit from 10bit just in case).
Tried CMOS resets and bios reflash just in case when I had access to it.
CPU Power was set to 45W and later back to 65W. No overclocking.
OS is Windows 10 Pro (latest updates, minimal software, file integrity triple checked).
Latest GPU (24.9.1) and chipset drivers (tried a lot of GPU drivers back to early 23.x releases).
MPO and ULPS are disabled. Only a couple of devices connected via USB (Kb/mouse/webcam).
Overnight memory and CPU stability tests are ok. Also downclocked ram from 2666 to 2400 just in case (doesn't help).
PC is also freshly repasted, cleaned temps are in check.

I have tried almost everything that I could think of. The only thing that I didn't try was SOC voltage tweaks (via VID in bios),
but I don't know if should help as GPU most likely has it's own voltage controls (not exposed though in bios).

Sadly this PC is in a different country, so I can try almost everything except another bios reflash.

BTW, what powerplans are you using on Zen+ (3xxxG)? Standard/OS or the ones from AMD?

Thanks.
 

ratundtat

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Sep 12, 2020
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hi, my alternative X300 power supply ( Delippo D0341900950) instant died.
So, I was in the electronic store for checking, but they mean after check: it is not repairable!
WHOAA!!
what do you can prefer for an alternative (alternative) power supply ? :-/
 

Lux

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hi, my alternative X300 power supply ( Delippo D0341900950) instant died.
So, I was in the electronic store for checking, but they mean after check: it is not repairable!
WHOAA!!
what do you can prefer for an alternative (alternative) power supply ? :-/

Here is the list of tested and recommended power supplies ASRock provides in the manual:



Technically most laptop PSUs with the 5.5mm barrel barrel connector would do. As long as the wattage is enough for your setup.
However, It's likely safer to get what ASRock says works.
 

ratundtat

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Sep 12, 2020
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Here is the list of tested and recommended power supplies ASRock provides in the manual:



Technically most laptop PSUs with the 5.5mm barrel barrel connector would do. As long as the wattage is enough for your setup.
However, It's likely safer to get what ASRock says works.
thank you. do we have a test what is the one with highest quality?
 

yck3110

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Jul 16, 2019
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Current have a x300+ 5600G at BIOS P1.90 and everthing work fine
and i bought a new 5700g and axp90-x47 , wanted upgrade the CPU.

After i swap to 5700g ,it cant even boot into bios or windows, just stuck at a black screen and indicated me to press F2/ DEL to enter bios and etc. and i try to the press F2
But it doesn't response no matter whay keys i press,
i also tried to disconnet the ssd or reseat the ram , hope it would boot into bios.
but the situation stay the same.
Ithe 5600g and 5700g are the same period of CPU
and I guess whatever support 5600g should also be fine for 5700g
i dont know if it is a compatible issue of the bios or what,
or do you think the CPU is a defect
or i just missed some step?
does it required to update to the latest BIOS or reset / down grade the bios before swaping to 5700G?
anyone has some insight/ experience to help?
 

hrh_ginsterbusch

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Current have a x300+ 5600G at BIOS P1.90 and everthing work fine
and i bought a new 5700g and axp90-x47 , wanted upgrade the CPU.


does it required to update to the latest BIOS or reset / down grade the bios before swaping to 5700G?
anyone has some insight/ experience to help?

Strange. I'd say its the CPU, because the Asrock info page says "supported since Bios 1.70". Have you maybe access to a different AM4 board for testing purposes?

cu, w0lf.
 
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yck3110

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Strange. I'd say its the CPU, because the Asrock info page says "supported since Bios 1.70". Have you maybe access to a different AM4 board for testing purposes?

cu, w0lf.
I have tried clear CMOS/unplug the battery and also use different keyboard / ram / ssd while putting one the 5700g,
no matter what method i try , it just cannot get into the bios. but once i have swap back to 5600g, everyrthing become normal back.
I dont have another am4 motherboard to test the 5700g, this only the only thing i didnt try yet.
I think i should the return and refund the 5700g, just too frustrated to fix the issue maybe giving up to upgrade
 
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hrh_ginsterbusch

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I have tried clear CMOS/unplug the battery and also use different keyboard / ram / ssd while putting one the 5700g,
no matter what method i try , it just cannot get into the bios. but once i have swap back to 5600g, everyrthing become normal back.
I dont have another am4 motherboard to test the 5700g, this only the only thing i didnt try yet.
I think i should the return and refund the 5700g, just too frustrated to fix the issue maybe giving up to upgrade
maybe there is somebody around wherever you live (eg. on this forum, but reddit might be another source) who is willing to help out? Would be worth a try :)
 

7words

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May 2, 2024
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Hi, I also had a 5700G, which was faulty. I got a freeze on BIOS startup with BIOS 3.70E. Tried with other AM4 boards, same issue. I replaced it with a brand new 5700G and now it works with the known BIOS saving issues. Next I will try a X300 BIOS with that CPU.
 

ToraSapphire

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Nov 27, 2024
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has anyone been able to flash an A300M-STX back to the A300 BIOS after crossflashing an X300M-STX BIOS? I'm not able to do so using the MSI utility I used before because I get a secure boot violation error, and changing any BIOS settings causes a soft brick where I have to unplug the CMOS battery to reset it. I have a 4700G in mine and went from A300 BIOS 3.60S to X300 BIOS 2.00.