Power Supply SFX-L PSU compilation

[jeshikat]

Ha, I'd need my own unit. Wouldn't want to borrow yours because I can't guarantee it'll survive testing

If the SilverStone version has a good fan controller and noise profile, what advantage would there be for a custom version? Just pricing?

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

If the SilverStone version has a good fan controller and noise profile, what advantage would there be for a custom version? Just pricing?

Presumably (in my mind at least), a better fan and our own choice of branding. Easy/inexpensive things to replace.

I'm also curious if Seasonic has something in the works. I been trying to nudge them the same way we did with Sirfa/High Power, maybe they will take the bait this time...lol

Boy, that would be something, wouldn't it?

 

[jeshikat]

Presumably (in my mind at least), a better fan and our own choice of branding. Easy/inexpensive things to replace.

Even just a fan swap may require re-certification which is $$.

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

Even just a fan swap may require re-certification which is $$.

How much, do you think? Split up across ~1000 units, it could still be financially viable to do, if the demand is there.

 

[jeshikat]

I've seen prices mentioned for UL cert as $10,000 to $20,000.

 

[Wahaha360]

2 years ago, High Power was willing to do the engineering and certification for SFX-L around USD 40,000.

We can prob get some retailers to split the order, but it all depends on how much complaint there is for the SS unit.

Not sure offering cheaper SFX-L is viable option, b/c we don't have the resources or scale to play that game. Offering better sound profile for the same price is more realistic.

 

[Wahaha360]

I wonder if Seasonic has something in the works. I been trying to nudge them the same way we did with Sirfa/High Power, maybe they will take the bait this time...lol

Boy, that would be something, wouldn't it?

Seasonic *may require a physical meeting in Taiwan. Also, if Seasonic is game, maybe Corsair will too.

This way we get some options in SFX.

 

[Vittra]

Corsair have shown no inclination towards SFF as of yet. Their ITX case designs are monolithic.

 

[Phuncz]

Corsair have shown no inclination towards SFF as of yet. Their ITX case designs are monolithic.

And basically huge, like the Air 240 (33L) and 380T (~40L). But with all ATX PSU's and no SFX PSU's in their lineup, they won't even think about building efficient cases.

But how long will they last ? SFF is gaining ground and this new 700W SFX-L got a lot of media attention.

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

This should put into perspective how bloated mATX cases are... And where Nova sits among some of the most popular.

Not to pump up our own project, but it's illustrative of how much space can be relinquished if you're thoughtful about the design.

EDIT: And a comparison to mITX cases, to show that mATX can be size competitive even against cases that use the smaller motherboard:

 

[Vittra]

The Prodigy M is 36L, unless we're talking without the handles, but I don't think that's fair. They should be counted.
The Silverstone TJ08E remains my favourite mATX of the currently released cases on the market. ~30L, supports 200mm front rad and 120mm back rad. Build quality unfortunately leaves much to be desired, but such is life.

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

These figures ignore the space taken up by handles, and treat the cases as rectangular prisms using the most extreme dimensions as the edges. Most cases are boxes anyway, but for those that have curved or angled faces, the air "gap" between those sides and the bounding box used for volume measurement is still counted, since for all practical purposes that space is still taken up by the case.

So it's a favorable analysis for cases with really big handles (like the Prodigy) - but, of all the ways to compare, it's the fairest that I can come up with. Especially since many cases are handle-less, or have optional handles.

 

[Phuncz]

Interesting. I agree with Vittra that you're too generous not to account for the handles. It's like you say: the space is taken up even though it's air. Because many of the cases with feet use the extra clearance for ventilation meaning without them it would most likely make the build useless or severely compromised. At the very least, use (projected) footprint sizes.

 

[Wahaha360]

Corsair have shown no inclination towards SFF as of yet. Their ITX case designs are monolithic.

Corsair SFF PSU https://imgur.com/a/RSCVZ

 

[Vittra]

Yeah, I've been discussing it over on [H] and the like. There's hope yet!

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

I'll be the first to admit that just about the last company I would have expected to announce SFX would be Corsair :rolleyes:

Still, and as other people have said, it's only a good thing that we're seeing more attention given to SFX and SFF more broadly.

 

[jeshikat]

Now that they have the PSU in their lineup we'll probably see other cases to take advantage of it in the coming years.

 

[Phuncz]

We'll that one came out of nowhere. I'm curious how it performs.

 

[Wahaha360]

Boy, that would be something, wouldn't it?

Just see what happens in the Fall

 

[PlayfulPhoenix]

Just see what happens in the Fall

How do you know these things?!?

What have you seen?!?

(he asks, rhetorically)