NCASE M1 V6 info
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Why not call it the M2 instead of the M1 EVO?
Will the M1 EVO support the 4090 along with future sfx-l power supplies with the 16pin connector and 240mm AIO? I remember hearing about GPU clearance issues with v6.1 on sfx-l PSUs and opted for a regular sfx PSU, but with the power draw from the recent GPU and CPU releases I worry about compromising on the amount of available 8 pin slots available as well as power delivery.
I made a new post on the replacement here, but for those that are too lazy to click, here is the summary:
We have not received the 4090 GPUs yet, so test-fitting Thermalright SS135 on Noctua A12x25R + MSI 3070 Suprim X + ATX PSU. FWIW, Micro-ATX motherboards will fit, and there is space for 25mm thick fans between the Top Panel and GPU.[/URL]
4090 FE *could fit via direct contact with minor tweaks to the design and a custom 12P GPU cable. But, of course, this will also depend on the back of the motherboard.
2022-10-23: Testing an air-cooled build with 30XX GPU + 4090FE.
We have not received the 4090 GPUs yet, so test-fitting Thermalright SS135 on Noctua A12x25R + MSI 3070 Suprim X + ATX PSU. FWIW, Micro-ATX motherboards will fit, and there is space for 25mm thick fans between the Top Panel and GPU.[/URL]
4090 FE *could fit via direct contact with minor tweaks to the design and a custom 12P GPU cable. But, of course, this will also depend on the back of the motherboard.
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Nice GPU compatibility as MSI RTX 3070 Suprim X dimensions are 335 x 140 x 61 mm.I made a new post on the replacement here, but for those that are too lazy to click, here is the summary:
2022-10-23: Testing an air-cooled build with 30XX GPU.
We have not received the 4090 GPUs yet, so test-fitting Thermalright SS135 on Noctua A12x25R + MSI 3070 Suprim X + ATX PSU. FWIW, Micro-ATX motherboards will fit, and there is space for 25mm thick fans between the Top Panel and GPU.
Could you fit this GPU inside case with PSU/CPU cooler in place? Or do we need to disassemble them to fit GPU first?
Well as an idea for the M2 (or N1), how about a properly cooled/coolable Mini-ITX NAS box. Because that SilverStone DS380 case failed at the cooling task. If you want 8 or more drives it is really hard to find a compact case. I don't know of any others besides the SilverStone.
Something with:
- 8 - 3.5" bays at least
- maybe an option to rack mount
- Preferably shallow enough to fit in a 12" deep wall mounted rack.
- ships without a backplane
- optional backplane in 4-drive blocks that use a SFF-8087 connector.
- for a real engineering challenge make the outer shell modular with 4 bays expandable to 8 bays or 12 bays by inserting some spacers.
this is great placement of the video card, and still room for decent thick fans to be de-shroudedI made a new post on the replacement here, but for those that are too lazy to click, here is the summary:
2022-10-23: Testing an air-cooled build with 30XX GPU + 4090FE.
We have not received the 4090 GPUs yet, so test-fitting Thermalright SS135 on Noctua A12x25R + MSI 3070 Suprim X + ATX PSU. FWIW, Micro-ATX motherboards will fit, and there is space for 25mm thick fans between the Top Panel and GPU.[/URL]
4090 FE *could fit via direct contact with minor tweaks to the design and a custom 12P GPU cable. But, of course, this will also depend on the back of the motherboard.
judging by the thickness of the case im assuming 140mm fans are out of the question? i have managed to fit 140s in my current setup with some little dremel work to make them fit
With mATX compatibility on the EVO does it allow enough room for a 240mm AIO? The change to the GPU being top mounted I think it's a good idea for airflow, but it leaves me wondering about the space and placement for an AIO in combination with it and how that might affect temps.
I made a new post on the replacement here, but for those that are too lazy to click, here is the summary:
2022-11-20: M1EVO Interest Check | Survey is live (URL).
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I made a new post on the replacement here, but for those that are too lazy to click, here is the summary:
2022-11-27: Testing configs before we finalize the spec.
We know someone will try this (*dual 280 HWL 280GTS on 3-Slot MSI Suprim X GPU), so we wanted to test it first.
My current setup has a ODD, so that would definitely be missed, however isn't the audio jack an all-in-one? So you would just need a breakout cable for a dedicated mic or an all-in-one plug on a headset.
The screen door effect is the biggest turn off for me on this new design. It looks cheap and fragile in the pictures.
I feel like the first design was near perfection (perhaps just missing an SD card reader) and all the new changes on this EVO are going away from perfection. There are a few third party cases out now that visually look better than this EVO.
The screen door effect is the biggest turn off for me on this new design. It looks cheap and fragile in the pictures.
I feel like the first design was near perfection (perhaps just missing an SD card reader) and all the new changes on this EVO are going away from perfection. There are a few third party cases out now that visually look better than this EVO.
It doesn't really surprise me that front-panel audio is going (especially since a lengthy cable can largely offset this). However, no ODD is really disappointing. It's not as if it will impact thermals or compatibility significantly. Otherwise happy to see anything resembling Ncase M1 available purely for options!
The lose of the ODD would hamper the versatility of this case and one of the reasons why it had major advantage over other SFF cases.
I got hooked on the NCASE M1 (I was previously using a CaseLabs Merlin SM8, Mercury S5, S3 and a BH4) after finding out that it could not only house high end hardware but also the ability to use Icy Dock’s hard drive enclosures, which I had great success using in my CaseLabs cases.
The ability to swap out SSD’s and quickly change operating systems turns the NCASE M1 into very capable workstation. Whether it’s trying out different Linux distros, various Windows installations or a drive dedicated to gaming, the easily swapable hard drive enclosures turn the NCASE M1 into a SFF PC Swiss Army Knife.
My next project was to try to install the new ICY Dock removable U.2/M.2 SSD enclosure that will also fit in the ODD location - MB852M2PO-B_ToughArmor Series_REMOVABLE U.2 / M.2 SSD ENCLOSURES_ICY DOCK manufacturer Removable enclosure, Screwless hard drive enclosure, SAS SATA Mobile Rack, DVR Surveillance Recording, Video Audio Editing, SATA portable hard drive enclosure
If the NACSE M1 EVO had the ability to house my Nvidia 4090 along with the SSD enclosure I don’t think there would be a need for me to go back to a ATX PC case.
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This. I also love when SFF case give more attention to storage.
Unfortunately, it seems that our use case is not common. AIO & XXX mm radiators get higher priority
(Yes there are NAS & portable drives, but..)
It's not a surprise really, considering just how power hungry components are getting and what the future seems to be holding for them, they will most likely become even bigger unfortunately... The days of the 250W 1080 Ti is long gone, soon 500W will be norm.This. I also love when SFF case give more attention to storage.
Unfortunately, it seems that our use case is not common. AIO & XXX mm radiators get higher priority
(Yes there are NAS & portable drives, but..)
Now this is rather cool, had no idea about this and stuff like this is why I love the internet. Such a neat little thing to add, that has a rather massive potential to itThe lose of the ODD would hamper the versatility of this case and one of the reasons why it had major advantage over other SFF cases.
I got hooked on the NCASE M1 (I was previously using a CaseLabs Merlin SM8, Mercury S5, S3 and a BH4) after finding out that it could not only house high end hardware but also the ability to use Icy Dock’s hard drive enclosures, which I had great success using in my CaseLabs cases.
The ability to swap out SSD’s and quickly change operating systems turns the NCASE M1 into very capable workstation. Whether it’s trying out different Linux distros, various Windows installations or a drive dedicated to gaming, the easily swapable hard drive enclosures turn the NCASE M1 into a SFF PC Swiss Army Knife.
My next project was to try to install the new ICY Dock removable U.2/M.2 SSD enclosure that will also fit in the ODD location - MB852M2PO-B_ToughArmor Series_REMOVABLE U.2 / M.2 SSD ENCLOSURES_ICY DOCK manufacturer Removable enclosure, Screwless hard drive enclosure, SAS SATA Mobile Rack, DVR Surveillance Recording, Video Audio Editing, SATA portable hard drive enclosure
If the NACSE M1 EVO had the ability to house my Nvidia 4090 along with the SSD enclosure I don’t think there would be a need for me to go back to a ATX PC case.
