News Gigabyte/ASUS/GALAX RTX 4060 Low Profile

SFFMunkee · Oct 23, 2023

Snerual said:
I don't think you need to power it from the Meanwell directy. That 300W board has SATA connectors... so you could use a SATA-to-8pin adapter. Not sure if it would handle the GPU at full load but... worth a shot at least?

Noooo! ‘300W’ shouldn’t be trusted and SATA connectors even less so!

Please DO power from the MeanWell!

b_force · Oct 24, 2023

Ah couple of posts back, people showed the total power consumption, which clearly showed that 300W should be enough incl CPU?
It obviously depends on your CPU as well.

SFFMunkee · Oct 24, 2023

b_force said:
Ah couple of posts back, people showed the total power consumption, which clearly showed that 300W should be enough incl CPU?
It obviously depends on your CPU as well.

300W yes, but AliExpress DC adapters aren't exactly known for being reliable and truthful to their specifications.
I would 100% separate as much of the 12V load away from the DC-ATX adapter as possible.

b_force · Oct 24, 2023

SFFMunkee said:
300W yes, but AliExpress DC adapters aren't exactly known for being reliable and truthful to their specifications.
I would 100% separate as much of the 12V load away from the DC-ATX adapter as possible.

I wouldn't go for an Ali DC adapter to begin with, lol

smitty2k1 · Oct 24, 2023

b_force said:
I wouldn't go for an Ali DC adapter to begin with, lol

Yeah I had a name brand PicoPsu 160w that I used for a few years but it couldn't handle my 4k TV for some reason (all other hardware was same) so I tried one of the higher wattage AliExpress ones that had a few good reviews. It's been solid since, but I agree - I don't want to push more power though it than I need to, which is why I figured I'd power the GPU from the Meanwell directly. I know JHack used to make a device to cleanly do this, but I don't think they make it anymore.

Thehack · Oct 24, 2023

smitty2k1 said:
Yeah I had a name brand PicoPsu 160w that I used for a few years but it couldn't handle my 4k TV for some reason (all other hardware was same) so I tried one of the higher wattage AliExpress ones that had a few good reviews. It's been solid since, but I agree - I don't want to push more power though it than I need to, which is why I figured I'd power the GPU from the Meanwell directly. I know JHack used to make a device to cleanly do this, but I don't think they make it anymore.

I had a special distroboard made, but 12V went out of favor, especially with something like the HDPLEX available.

smitty2k1 · Oct 24, 2023

Thehack said:
I had a special distroboard made, but 12V went out of favor, especially with something like the HDPLEX available.

What does this do?

J-Hack ONE2 LS200 - 150W Load Switch

The J-Hack ONE2 LS200 is a high-side loadswitch designed to work with official J-Hack product. It uses a H (5V) signal to trigger.

j-hackcompany.com

REVOCCASES · Oct 24, 2023

smitty2k1 said:
What does this do?

J-Hack ONE2 LS200 - 150W Load Switch

The J-Hack ONE2 LS200 is a high-side loadswitch designed to work with official J-Hack product. It uses a H (5V) signal to trigger.

j-hackcompany.com

Probably similar like this, but lower wattage:

Completed - GxR-DIY Edition - a tiny 12V 600W load switch module - works with NUC, Deskmini, Pico-PSUs and more

Some of you have probably seen how Josh | NFC hooked up a graphics card to a DeskMini A300 STX board. Well, unfortunately the DYNAMO 360 used by Josh is currently not available so G-UNIQUE and REVOCCASES have teamed up to work on some alternative for the SFF.NETWORK forum members that works...

smallformfactor.net

Btw, since @gurywah is MIA, @b_force and me are working on a new version for the community

b_force · Oct 24, 2023

REVOCCASES said:
Btw, since @gurywah is MIA, @b_force and me are working on a new version for the community

Also guys, let us know if you have any specifics requirements or wishes!!

I am not gonna promise anything, but I am always curious what ideas other people have!

smitty2k1 · Oct 24, 2023

b_force said:
Also guys, let us know if you have any specifics requirements or wishes!!
I am not gonna promise anything, but I am always curious what ideas other people have!

Inexpensive? So I don't have to just replace my whole Meanwell+PicoPSU setup with a Hdplex 250w.

Thehack · Oct 25, 2023

A loadswitch would be pretty affordable. The bigger issue is how to integrate the cabling cleanly.

there’s been low interest in 12V. My initial board was too tight of solder pads. I have a box of R2 boards and bunch of switches around here… but it did work as expected. Just need a logic based trigger. You can read somewhere in the thread, but my initial switches had issue with using the MB 12V to turn it on. It would feedback loop itself, and latched itself on. Hence, I developed a plug-in dcatx that has a logic output to control it.

b_force · Oct 25, 2023

smitty2k1 said:
Inexpensive? So I don't have to just replace my whole Meanwell+PicoPSU setup with a Hdplex 250w.

What price would you have in mind?
Inexpensive is a very relative word

b_force · Oct 25, 2023

Thehack said:
A loadswitch would be pretty affordable. The bigger issue is how to integrate the cabling cleanly.

I was thinking about using standard cables, no soldering involved.

I was also thinking of using using the 12V from a Fan connector as a trigger.
Optically isolated to avoid groundloops. (maybe that's the part where it started doing odd things for you?)

As for now, I might add maybe some additional fan headers, so it doubles up as a fan extender at the same time.

But maybe it deserves a separate topic?

It's all just preliminary at this point.
I have so many other projects going on besides my day job, lol

smitty2k1 · Oct 25, 2023

b_force said:
I was thinking about using standard cables, no soldering involved.

I was also thinking of using using the 12V from a Fan connector as a trigger.
Optically isolated to avoid groundloops. (maybe that's the part where it started doing odd things for you?)

As for now, I might add maybe some additional fan headers, so it doubles up as a fan extender at the same time.

But maybe it deserves a separate topic?
It's all just preliminary at this point.
I have so many other projects going on besides my day job, lol

$20 or less? I mean, I may just spend $0 and try plugging the GPU straight into the Meanwell to see if I get any unintended behavior.

ondert · Nov 2, 2023

still nothing from any proper UK retailer... looks like i'll get it through amazon US

Goatee · Nov 2, 2023

@ondert Lambda-Tek have them and have been around forever. Not major name like SCAN or OCUK but have used them in the past

Gingerbeer · Nov 3, 2023

Tempted to buy a second one. My son's 3060ti is flakey so I gave him my 4060LP for the time being, but EVGA are suddenly sh1t at customer service and are just stalling on the RMA.

Arboreal · Nov 3, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
Tempted to buy a second one. My son's 3060ti is flakey so I gave him my 4060LP for the time being, but EVGA are suddenly sh1t at customer service and are just stalling on the RMA.

Looking at 4060s yesterday, I was surprised that the Gigabytes LP wasn't much more expensive than the short single fan or basic models.

Do get another LP, so I can then do a deal with you when you upgrade!

Sorry to hear that EVGA are a being pain

Gingerbeer · Nov 3, 2023

Arboreal said:
Looking at 4060s yesterday, I was surprised that the Gigabytes LP wasn't much more expensive than the short single fan or basic models.

Do get another LP, so I can then do a deal with you when you upgrade!

Sorry to hear that EVGA are a being pain

It was a surprisingly competitive price (for a 4060), and I love how it performs. Sure a 3060 Ti can beat it, but not in a 4 litre chassis.

Really surprised at EVGA - they have always been great to deal with, but the bell tolls and they don't GAF any more, it seems.

nightshift · Nov 3, 2023

Gingerbeer said:
It was a surprisingly competitive price (for a 4060), and I love how it performs. Sure a 3060 Ti can beat it, but not in a 4 litre chassis.

Really surprised at EVGA - they have always been great to deal with, but the bell tolls and they don't GAF any more, it seems.

I heard that the 4060 performs kinda close to identical to the 3060Ti.
However, it's vastly better overall, knowing that it does that while being smaller and consumes about half as much.

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