Completed Salvo Studios S402: ~9L Steel Console Style Case

Poblopuablo · Oct 3, 2019

Wether or not it would really make a difference I do not know, but theoretically, does the hole spacing on the back of the case support 120mm fans? And if so, could one put a slim 120mm fan behind a 2 slot graphics card? Perhaps not directly behind the gpu (since the pcie riser would be blocking it, but perhaps further towards the front, where the button is) for exhaust? Again, idk if this would do anything at all, but just a thought that comes to mind. ;D
... I'm always thinking of odd things/configurations, wether supported or not, wether they are practical or just theoretical. The mind of one with ADD doesn't stop. lol.

grsychckn · Oct 3, 2019

Poblopuablo said:
Wether or not it would really make a difference I do not know, but theoretically, does the hole spacing on the back of the case support 120mm fans? And if so, could one put a slim 120mm fan behind a 2 slot graphics card? Perhaps not directly behind the gpu (since the pcie riser would be blocking it, but perhaps further towards the front, where the button is) for exhaust? Again, idk if this would do anything at all, but just a thought that comes to mind. ;D
... I'm always thinking of odd things/configurations, wether supported or not, wether they are practical or just theoretical. The mind of one with ADD doesn't stop. lol.

Yes, and you should be able to install 2 x 120mm slim fans on the backside of a 2-slot GPU.

Edit: I'm thinking of including some silicone fan mounts with the S402 as I'm a little concerned that normal fan screws might damage the finish on the chassis/panels.

Poblopuablo · Oct 3, 2019

grsychckn said:
Yes, and you should be able to install 2 x 120mm slim fans on the backside of a 2-slot GPU.

Edit: I'm thinking of including some silicone fan mounts with the S402 as I'm a little concerned that normal fan screws might damage the finish on the chassis/panels.

Either that or nylon spacers/washers.

grsychckn · Oct 3, 2019

Winner of the S401 contest is @Rjk1617 . I had an invalid e-mail address on the first choice so I picked again and Ryan won. I've already contacted him and will be working on getting it shipped out to him this week. Thanks to everyone for participating!

Allhopeforhumanity · Oct 3, 2019

grsychckn said:
Winner of the S401 contest is @Rjk1617 . I had an invalid e-mail address on the first choice so I picked again and Ryan won. I've already contacted him and will be working on getting it shipped out to him this week. Thanks to everyone for participating!

Congrats Rjk1617!

snailonni · Oct 11, 2019

grsychckn said:
Looks like Sliger has entered the console-style SFF case business with the introduction of the CONSOLE and CONSWOLE cases. With their pricing and feature set, it appears the S402 will not have a very distinct place in the market anymore. While some may view this as a bad thing, it's absolutely fantastic that a larger manufacturer is able to lower the prices and increase availability of these cases. This was my goal but at my low volumes, I cannot compete with their CONSOLE case at $150. I'm not sure I can even compete with the CONSWOLE at $199. Fortunately, I'm in a good position because of my delays since I haven't committed to any manufacturing I might be able to stay on the sideline should I choose to do so. The real factor in my decision is going to be seeing their prototype for the CONSWOLE as it would be a direct competitor for the S402 and I no longer sell the S401 (CONSOLE). Their target date for availability is before black Friday which I cannot match either so their units will be on the market first.

All that said, I think the S402 will have enough distinct features that I'm still moving down the path of having one run made. Most likely though, I will not make more than one set as I don't expect them to sell well with competition coming from such a large player. Should I decide to cancel the production of the S402, I'll post here first, but that will allow me to focus on other projects like the S600.

Finally, my plan now is to finish the drawings and models of the S402 to submit one last time to the fabricators and see what they come back with. I may have to contract a minimum of 50 units to have the prototype made so it won't be cheap on my wallet, but until they (Sliger) post pictures of the CONSWOLE, I'm moving forward as if they aren't producing a product.

Hi there, here are some of my perspectives. ?
I would love to see s402 have at least one run, since It seems like the smallest console size case with no compromise. (best air cooling solution in small console size I think)
When I say compromise, I did not only mean the size of the graphic cards but also considering the performance it can handle. As far as I know, Dr. Zabre sentry 2.0, despite its wonderful advertisement, can not handle the heat produced by 1080ti. The nicely added fans in the s402 give me hope that it can handle even the 2080ti. Also, the enlarged hight allowed more powerful CPU fans/cooler to be inserted, for someone who will travel on air with this pc in the future, it gives me hope to handle my 8700k though air-cooling(although I may need to delid and such)

grsychckn · Oct 11, 2019

snailonni said:
Hi there, here are some of my perspectives. ?
I would love to see s402 have at least one run, since It seems like the smallest console size case with no compromise. (best air cooling solution in small console size I think)
When I say compromise, I did not only mean the size of the graphic cards but also considering the performance it can handle. As far as I know, Dr. Zabre sentry 2.0, despite its wonderful advertisement, can not handle the heat produced by 1080ti. The nicely added fans in the s402 give me hope that it can handle even the 2080ti. Also, the enlarged hight allowed more powerful CPU fans/cooler to be inserted, for someone who will travel on air with this pc in the future, it gives me hope to handle my 8700k though air-cooling(although I may need to delid and such)

TBH I kind of worry about the airflow on their new chassis as well. Perhaps they have found an efficient design but to me the vent to surface ratio seems like it would be small and thus restrict the airflow. Don't get me wrong though - I want them to succeed and sell tons of their cases because it means progress for the SFF community as a new widely-available and affordable quality solution would be made.

I am kind of hoping that my case breathes better though and as a result will perform better for enthusiasts. We'll find out as I've gotten one of the two RFQ's back from the fabricators and hopefully will get the other one back in the next few days. Unfortunately this means I probably won't have the production units until early next year but this all depends on the fabricator's backlog and if they will finish them by year's end or not. Last I knew, they each had a 4-6 week backlog for both the prototype and production runs.

ignsvn · Oct 11, 2019

Just a friendly advice: don't give up so easily.

Sliger may probably flood the market with similar cases. However, I believe your products may still have their own niche market, because.. well even if function wise they're all very similar, small minor things can be a distinguishing factor; for example aesthetic & design.

Keep up the good work.

grsychckn · Oct 21, 2019

I've decided on a fabricator and will be submitting the purchase order by the end of this week. Their current lead time for the prototype is 6 weeks so I'm going to have to wait. The good news is that their quote is extremely competitive so I expect this new fabricator to help me reduce my costs significantly (maybe I'll actually make a profit this time). The timeline for the S402 has been delayed somewhat as a result of using this fabricator and my late changes to the design but assuming I won't need major alterations after the prototype we're looking at early 2020 for availability.

The 6 week gap is going to provide me with some much needed time to get moved from my current home into a rental unit while we wait for our new home to be built. Additionally, I want to finish the S700 prototype #2 build with the 2 x Epyc 7551 CPUs (32-cores each) as I've now received my motherboard back from Supermicro's RMA department.

HZCH · Oct 21, 2019

Glad to see you keep up with rhe S402 and the S700! I can't wait for pictures of your prototypes !

tifaff · Oct 21, 2019

hi

can you make an update for this questions and how will be in the end?

2. USB Front Panel. Type C support or no?
3. 60x25mm upper fan support worth .3L of volume?
4. 2.5/3-slot GPU support?
5. 59mm CPU cooler support?
6. #4 and #5 not important? then would it make sense to keep the dimensions of the S401 and make this a simple revision?

grsychckn · Oct 21, 2019

I'll update it now - the front USB is still unsettled, but since I cannot find a source for the same adapters I used on the S400 and S401 I'm probably going to be forced to drop support unless I have only 1 type C on the front and no type A's.

Poblopuablo · Oct 21, 2019

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