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I didn't see any decrease in thermal performance with the sheet of paper taped over the CPU side. I was expect 1-2 degrees warmer for the VRM temps but surprisingly this was not the case.
Also you mentioned you wanted to do push/pull on the PSU side. I tried that today on my build, and was not able to do so due to several constraints, but it still may be possible for your build.
Hi all. December 1-4th batch here . By now lot of you know about the delay due to suppliers wanting to milk every dime. But in that mail, formd mentioned SOME manufacturers pausing production to renegotiate cost. Does that mean that the other manufacturers will fulfill the orders ?
that would mean that preorders would still be fulfilled but at a slower pace ?
Edit: also, is there an option to just pay more for us folk not wanting to wait another couple of month?
that would mean that preorders would still be fulfilled but at a slower pace ?
Edit: also, is there an option to just pay more for us folk not wanting to wait another couple of month?
The universe is telling me to just build my PC next year so I think I'm just going to do that at this point.
New T1 case updates, Dancase C4, FormD P1, Meshlicious, new hardware, more availability, and until then, my PS5 can keep me busy.
No downsides.
New T1 case updates, Dancase C4, FormD P1, Meshlicious, new hardware, more availability, and until then, my PS5 can keep me busy.
No downsides.
I would just buy another case first,
Now I am using a sfx psu hanging outside my old atx case as the cable length is too short....
To me, it was pretty dangerous but still acceptable if only used for few weeks.
But right now, I dont know when can I received the order
2020-12-12: Aluminum Prices Shock and Delays
Over the past few months, the price of aluminum has surged nearly 40%. We tried to our best to manage the price increases from production side. However, in response to the climbing cost, some of our manufacturers have withheld our orders – contrary to our agreements – in an attempt to re-negotiate higher prices. Their goal is to extract more money, or to simply flip our material for easy profit.
We’re deeply frustrated by this, as we’re as eager as our customers to get the enclosures on desks, especially during this challenging year. However, our status as a small-scale indie brand means we have few options in the short term, beyond attempting good-faith negotiations and seeking alternative manufacturing arrangements.
In addition, while we don't expect the premium on aluminum to last forever, the cost increases are significant for any production we might perform in the near future.
So what's the bottom line?
Over the past few months, the price of aluminum has surged nearly 40%. We tried to our best to manage the price increases from production side. However, in response to the climbing cost, some of our manufacturers have withheld our orders – contrary to our agreements – in an attempt to re-negotiate higher prices. Their goal is to extract more money, or to simply flip our material for easy profit.
We’re deeply frustrated by this, as we’re as eager as our customers to get the enclosures on desks, especially during this challenging year. However, our status as a small-scale indie brand means we have few options in the short term, beyond attempting good-faith negotiations and seeking alternative manufacturing arrangements.
In addition, while we don't expect the premium on aluminum to last forever, the cost increases are significant for any production we might perform in the near future.
So what's the bottom line?
- FormD will be delaying the fulfillment of orders for the moment, while we determine the best next steps for our customers.
- We expect to raise the price of future orders of our enclosures, at least until material costs stabilize.
- Preorder will be less in quantity and closer to the shipping date, the same way it was done in July and August this year.
I want to ship T1 to remaining customers first.
P1 was suppose to be more affordable, with aluminum prices surge, prob need a redesign, so more delays.
30.08. "Expected to ship by November 16th-20th"
10.11. "Reschedule for December 28th-31st"
12.12. "TBD"
Well, fuck me.
10.11. "Reschedule for December 28th-31st"
12.12. "TBD"
Well, fuck me.
There is still one thing i don’t get. How do preorders work? Once paid for, doesn’t that money go directly to the manufacturer?
In turn, doesn’t the manufacturer buy the required material to proceed with production?
It seems to me formd signed an agreement for production months before a timeslot for production was available, and if that’s the case, than the preorder money wasn’t paid to the manufacturer as soon as received. What was the preorder money used for during this time?
When the time came, aluminium prices were 40% higher and here we are.
Can we get a bit of insight here?
In turn, doesn’t the manufacturer buy the required material to proceed with production?
It seems to me formd signed an agreement for production months before a timeslot for production was available, and if that’s the case, than the preorder money wasn’t paid to the manufacturer as soon as received. What was the preorder money used for during this time?
When the time came, aluminium prices were 40% higher and here we are.
Can we get a bit of insight here?
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But if you already know you cannot ship Dec 1-4 batch items, why do you mark these orders as shipped then cancel them today? It does not make any sense that gets a tracking number after the item is onboard for SF Express, they will send a notification to customers once the item has picked up. So I know your team didn't actually ship the cases 3 days before, but why do you mark these orders as shipped and change the order status to waiting for tracking number?
Yes. There is definitely some *shady* stuff going on and obviously they’re not telling us everythingBut if you already know you cannot ship Dec 1-4 batch items, why do you mark these orders as shipped then cancel them today? It does not make any sense that gets a tracking number after the item is onboard for SF Express, they will send a notification to customers once the item has picked up. So I know your team didn't actually ship the cases 3 days before, but why do you mark these orders as shipped and change the order status to waiting for tracking number?
But if you already know you cannot ship Dec 1-4 batch items, why do you mark these orders as shipped then cancel them today? It does not make any sense that gets a tracking number after the item is onboard for SF Express, they will send a notification to customers once the item has picked up. So I know your team didn't actually ship the cases 3 days before, but why do you mark these orders as shipped and change the order status to waiting for tracking number?
We were suppose to get the remaining inventory for Dec1-4 several hours ago. They refused to release inventory at the end, now we have to tell you guys we can't ship.
The technical reason is that our RMA is unreasonable, much higher than the agreed upon 2-3%. It's just a tactic saying they want a higher price.
But if you already know you cannot ship Dec 1-4 batch items, why do you mark these orders as shipped then cancel them today? It does not make any sense that gets a tracking number after the item is onboard for SF Express, they will send a notification to customers once the item has picked up. So I know your team didn't actually ship the cases 3 days before, but why do you mark these orders as shipped and change the order status to waiting for tracking number?
Oh..I thought people who received the tracking number are not affected.
So the whole Dec 1 - 4 batch is affected?
50%
If the tracking still says waiting for tracking, then we have the inventory to ship.
If the the fulfillment is cancelled, it means we didn't get the inventory.
So the orders did not receive tracking number but mark as shipped will not get the case?
We have mutual NDA in place, even if we wanted, we can't go into the detail.
This supplier also mfg for other big names in the industry, so they don't want us talking too much.
We shipped 50% of Dec1-4 already, just waiting for tracking on some.
Among the remaining 50% that are not shipped. We are trying to negotiate for those inventory to be released. But we can't put a date on it yet.
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