Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure

sn0man

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lol..:)
Did you actually own a "non chromax" U9S?..:D
Nope. I had a wraith stealth that i got with my 3600. a friend gave me the unicorn barf wraith prism. it's nice enough but the processor gets hot enough that my motherboard bios spins up the fans quite a bit. i'm hopeful that the U9S will do a better job of keeping the 3600 cool.
 

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Nope. I had a wraith stealth that i got with my 3600. a friend gave me the unicorn barf wraith prism. it's nice enough but the processor gets hot enough that my motherboard bios spins up the fans quite a bit. i'm hopeful that the U9S will do a better job of keeping the 3600 cool.
Well not really sure...but you will see..:)
 

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Well not really sure...but you will see..:)
I know you have moved on to bigger and better coolers. I plan to not overclock and may get a 5600x or the 8-core version (forget the name). In each case I'll just let precision boost do its thing. I'll post pics once I've assembled in case anyone is interested but may not get to it until thx giving week.
 

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I know you have moved on to bigger and better coolers. I plan to not overclock and may get a 5600x or the 8-core version (forget the name). In each case I'll just let precision boost do its thing. I'll post pics once I've assembled in case anyone is interested but may not get to it until thx giving week.
You are right I tested U9S with early version of Ryzen 1..:D (May 2017)
As far as I remembered I was forced to replace standard fan with redux version as fan was peaking at max way too often.

Since, things changed a lot..:)

Please keep us informed how U9S is handling R5 3600. Maybe you will upgrade to R7 5800X..:D (Maybe I'll do too...or R9 5900X..:) with second gen of B550/X570 MB..;) I'm looking for strong CPU as it proved really helpful on loading times on Baldur's Gate 3 or Solasta..:D)
 
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I really love the high airflow design of the SM580, but need also need mATX.

Anyone know if it's possible to have a Cerberus with this style of of side vent?

 

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Testing the 5800X atm, and temps with the NH-C14S are definitely in the warm side. Maybe is time to play with liquid again ?
 
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Testing the 5800X atm, and temps with the NH-C14S are definitely in the warm side. Maybe is time to play with liquid again ?
How is setup your c14s? Fan on bracket? Dual fan ?
What is your ambiant temperature ?

Going with water on cpu (240mm or higher) will head to higher gpu temp.
Only 92mm watercooling or full cpu+gpu watercooling won’t impact gpu temp...:)
 

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Push-Pull intake, with the second fan in the side bracket and room temperature around 19-20ºC.
 

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Push-Pull intake, with the second fan in the side bracket and room temperature around 19-20ºC.
Those 81°c are reached just after one cinebench r20? Fans are spinning at 100% before benchmark? Just wanted to make sure that issue is not coming from slow ramp up curve.
Are you using standard Noctua a14?
No dust on heatsink?
 

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Those 81°c are reached just after one cinebench r20? Fans are spinning at 100% before benchmark? Just wanted to make sure that issue is not coming from slow ramp up curve.
Are you using standard Noctua a14?
No dust on heatsink?
Its all ok, no dust, fresh thermal paste, two A14s and good fan curve that starts at 1100rpm. Those are normal temps for this chip in multicore workloads.

Going with water on cpu (240mm or higher) will head to higher gpu temp.
Only 92mm watercooling or full cpu+gpu watercooling won’t impact gpu temp...:)
I have somewhere here the SFX back bracket, maybe is time to put it in use and experiment with 280mm front AIO ?
 
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Testing the 5800X atm, and temps with the NH-C14S are definitely in the warm side. Maybe is time to play with liquid again ?

Thanks for update on the new AMD Ryzen chips. My 5800 on the way too.

Also you might want to consider an undervolt if you haven't already.

EDIT: nm, I see undervolting is currently temporarily suspended on 5000. Should be coming with an AGESA update though in the future.

 
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integer

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Anyone rocking an mATX board in the cerberus?

I'm hoping to pull of a dense system. So a 5950x and a 3080 using ASrock X570M board to keep it together. CPU prob water, and GPU maybe air? Wondering where to place things, and even if it can be done. Like can you have a side 240 Rad with an mATX board?

On the fence whether to just order a Cerberus X cos it's my first SFF build as that would prob be easier to build in I'm guessing.
 

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Its all ok, no dust, fresh thermal paste, two A14s and good fan curve that starts at 1100rpm. Those are normal temps for this chip in multicore workloads.
I have somewhere here the SFX back bracket, maybe is time to put it in use and experiment with 280mm front AIO ?
For sure front AIO could be tested. Be careful on tubing orientation (better to have tubing at the bottom to max performance/reliability....but difficult to rout due to GPU or too short tubes..:))
 

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Thanks for update on the new AMD Ryzen chips. My 5800 on the way too.

Also you might want to consider an undervolt if you haven't already.

EDIT: nm, I see undervolting is currently temporarily suspended on 5000. Should be coming with an AGESA update though in the future.

The beta BIOS Im using still gives you the option to undervolt, and with -0,05v temperatures drop from 81ºC to 77ºC. My plan atm is to wait and see what AMD brings in terms of undervolt with new AGESA, and decide then what to do with CPU cooling, because none of the alternatives convince me. Bottom AIO is noisy and affects negatively GPU temperatures, and front 280 AIO limits greatly the space for big GPUs (love new Asus TUF lineup).
 
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The beta BIOS Im using still gives you the option to undervolt, and with -0,05v temperatures drop from 81ºC to 77ºC. My plan atm is to wait and see what AMD brings in terms of undervolt with new AGESA, and decide then what to do with CPU cooling, because none of the alternatives convince me. Bottom AIO is noisy and affects negatively GPU temperatures, and front 280 AIO limits greatly the space for big GPUs (love new Asus TUF lineup).
ahah..;)
C14S or Rear 92mm AIO are best suited CPU cooler for Cerberus family..;)
 

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The beta BIOS Im using still gives you the option to undervolt, and with -0,05v temperatures drop from 81ºC to 77ºC. My plan atm is to wait and see what AMD brings in terms of undervolt with new AGESA, and decide then what to do with CPU cooling, because none of the alternatives convince me. Bottom AIO is noisy and affects negatively GPU temperatures, and front 280 AIO limits greatly the space for big GPUs (love new Asus TUF lineup).

Oh nice to know that undervolt is available on the beta.

On the topic of cooling, wonder if there's a reason folks aren't doing more top mounted AIO's? Seems like it should be popular and heck even the default!.

I know it's not officially supported, but dont see why it cant be done if you reposition the PSU. Agree with you that the bottom AIO seems a bit sketch (as per Gamers Nexus vid).



This guy ? , so talented. Something like this possible for AIO crowd ? Notice the PSU shifted down to accommodate.
 

sn0man

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I wonder if Ryzen 5000 will run cooler similar spec v spec vs previous processors. maybe worth an upgrade (if you're on the fence) for the more limited thermal envelope of cerberus/x