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Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure
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dammit, you beat me to it.
Just choose a nice color
If that's all the tooling costs I'm not worried about that, it's the time. Since the cases are being made in America and not some sweatshop in a 3rd world country the labor costs are high. Silkscreen is fairly quick and easy to apply compared to engraving.
It sure does look nice though so I'll think about it.
Yep, think about it, talk to your crafters, Eeeeither way, i'm sure it will work out.
Good job guys, Really like this case.
oh, engraved on the removable plate is so more appropriate for a limited production, i imagine the aesthetic of engraving will recoup or at least reasonably mitigate the losses incurred by being the more expensive process, as it makes the product more appealing you can up the initial production numbers or the initial buy-in cost and people will feel like they are getting value and that it's not a money-grab.
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an initial run of 500 @ a $40 premium isn't unreasonable if they were engraved, i don't think i could say that about silk-screening. you'd need to wait longer between releases. differentiate yourself from the competition even more by getting it right the 1st time rather than releasing 5 different versions of the same thing, invest your future time in completely different projects. engraving 500 things couldn't take longer than 25 hours. @ $20/hr that's ~$500 invested but more than $500 gained in additonal sales, as @ $40/unit gross you only need to entice an extra dozen people off the fence vs the same situation with silk-screen.
you seem to be settled on $250/unit (that'd better include a handle!). i'd like the option to give you $290 for an engraved 1st edition, that's all this concept is repeatable if you ever re-brand with 3rd parties like falcon northwest.
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if engraving increases initial sales by >2-3% it is a good investment assuming you can sell ~500 units, which you can if you commit to your prototype.
you seem to be settled on $250/unit (that'd better include a handle!). i'd like the option to give you $290 for an engraved 1st edition, that's all
this concept is repeatable if you ever re-brand with 3rd parties like falcon northwest.TLDR;
if engraving increases initial sales by >2-3% it is a good investment assuming you can sell ~500 units, which you can if you commit to your prototype.
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Wait wait wait, so this "marked as a gift" really works ?! I've never had this work for me. Although everything came from China. While this is still fraudulent, how is this ever considered true, being a gift ? I've always wondered this for review samples, I'd hate to be on the receiving end for reviewing something ridiculous like a Geforce Titan and having to pay hundreds of euro. Or are the import duties and tax paid by the sender in that example ?Expediting of shipping wouldn't be of a whole lot of benefit to me personally; I'll still have to pay horrendous import taxes here in the UK unless it's marked as a gift
Even though I have an SFX-L PSU and will be getting one later this year, I would still like the option to exist to be able to modify the case to ATX-PSU support. Since the power cable seems to be the problem and the price of the case the same for both SFX and ATX version, maybe it's possible to have just more of the ATX brackets made, about 20-25% of the SFX cases sold ?
This could allow a purely ATX-PSU version, purely SFX-PSU version or SFX/ATX version with a small added cost ?
While logistically this could be a lot more difficult, you could just focus on those three versions and have accessories dealt seperately.
Maybe think about having an "accessories shop" after the sales, I've seen people asking Ncase for panel kits, feet, clips, screws, brackets, power extension cables, ODD or No-ODD top panels, etc etc.
I have friends & family in the States who have sent me gifts but also kindly forwarded on American purchases.
I am not going to vouch for the legality of this nor do I know anything about the financial technicalities, but I have never had any problems.
Not only is marking a non-gift as a gift illegal, but when you have a large number (10-20?) of the same package arriving in the country with the same sender, same packaging, and same contents marked as a 'gift'? Customs & Excise aren't going to miss that, and at the very least the shipments will be impounded and likely returned to sender (at their expense). Fines may also be levied.
For review parts, a temporary import license may be used to avoid paying tax/duty (either under an ATA Carnet, or a Temporary Admission scheme under the review/testing purposes exemption). Permanent imports still need to pay tax/duty though. Whether that works in practice for multinational companies that can ship to themselves for testing than reship internally is another matter.
For review parts, a temporary import license may be used to avoid paying tax/duty (either under an ATA Carnet, or a Temporary Admission scheme under the review/testing purposes exemption). Permanent imports still need to pay tax/duty though. Whether that works in practice for multinational companies that can ship to themselves for testing than reship internally is another matter.
Maybe it's this one: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/108235/...dingcampagne-voor-extra-kleine-matx-case.html
It's the largest Dutch-speaking tech website and forum, with 90 million page views a month and 500.000 community members, it has quite the userbase.
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I have seen all surface types of Powdercoating silk screened with great success. You can paint most types of Powdercoating easy peasy, though Teflon based stuff might be harder.
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an initial run of 500 @ a $40 premium isn't unreasonable if they were engraved, i don't think i could say that about silk-screening. you'd need to wait longer between releases. differentiate yourself from the competition even more by getting it right the 1st time rather than releasing 5 different versions of the same thing, invest your future time in completely different projects. engraving 500 things couldn't take longer than 25 hours. @ $20/hr that's ~$500 invested but more than $500 gained in additonal sales, as @ $40/unit gross you only need to entice an extra dozen people off the fence vs the same situation with silk-screen.
you seem to be settled on $250/unit (that'd better include a handle!). i'd like the option to give you $290 for an engraved 1st edition, that's all
I'll have to get some pricing on engraving to figure out how feasible it is.
$250 is the base model, so ATX or SFX. Handle and window are extra.
Converting the ATX version to SFX isn't too difficult, it'd just need an adapter plate (though I'll have to check if there would be room for the tubing holes). So we could possibly offer that since it's more likely for someone to start with an ATX unit and move to SFX later than the other way.
Accessories we'll have to see how the campaign goes and what the demand is for parts afterward.
Right. We will not be marking the case as a gift so don't ask.
Wow, that's quite a few members! So are all the Dutch-speaking PC enthusiasts consolidated there?
Pretty much. There's another site (nl.hardware.info) that's a popular tech news source as well, but its forums aren't really that active as far as I know.
@Aibohphobia It's not very clear from the pictures, but is the power button on the Cerberus one of those vandal resistant switches? If so, you're gods. If not, can the power button be replaced with one either as an add-on option or as a mod once we get it in our hands? I saw a few people replace the power buttons on their NCASE M1's and loved that.
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