For me, the most important improvement would have been support for higher profile CPU coolers like Nh-D15 and tiny space for cables behind the backplate. This would have a been ahuge game changer for this particular case. Otherwise, things like USB-C and others are easily DIY’able if really needed.
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Cerberus V2
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What changes would everyone like to see in a Version 2 of the Cerberus and Cerberus X?
Here are mine:
1. Slight increase in height to allow for mounting 120x25 or 140 x 25 fans at the top of the case. (Both models)
2. Front mount 240mm AIO on Cerberus
3. Ability to mount the SFX PSU like the NCASE M1 with an ITX build. This will allow for mounting an AIO on the swing arm. (Both Models)
4. Increase of GPU clearance by 15mm. This would give you a lot more GPU options with front mount AIO. GPUs are huge these days. (Both models)
5. To keep the case proportioned, increase the height, width, and depth in equal amounts. 15 mm ( 0.59 of an inch for Imperials). I don't have the cad files but I think that might be enough.
6. USB C.
It's my personal dream list. Also, it takes none of the realities of actually designing a case into effect and I'm absolutely certain there are items that would not make fiscal sense. But it doesn't hurt to ask.
Thoughts?
1. This actually can be done without increasing size of case! New version will have this.
2. This unfortunately does not work in current version, will require a new version with extra length from front to back. (But this wish is granted with this new slightly longer version!)
3. This is in as well!
4. Same as #2, this is a new version that has ~30mm added to front.
5. Trying to keep case as small as possible within reason, unlikely to add space for proportions / aesthetics.
6. You got it!
Keep the sizes the same, it's big enough as it is. I'd like to see the removable bottom from the S620 brought over to the Cerberus if possible. Also the improved mounting system for the top fans that case has. Oh and the larger cutouts in the motherboard tray.
Basically I'd just like to see the improvements from later cases added to the Cerberus
Removable bottom
Top mounting
Motherboard cutouts
PSU / 2.5" SSD holder
The flipping feature and removable bottom are in the new versions of both the V2 of each Cerb and Cerb X. The new "longer" case will not need the flipping feature.
The new "RS" version that has ~30mm added to front has support for EEB/EATX.
The V2 of Cerb X also is getting a bit more flexibility on PSU mounting, which should improve it's EATX support as well.
Standoffs are also all going to be removable for X v2 and RS so that any oddball motherboard can work in it.
EEB / high end work stations are surprisingly not that niche I have learned!
Removable bottom is in.
Fan grills are completely changed, will be more like the bottom of the SM series.
Fans will mount similar to S610/S620/NR200, no extra brackets required. (Handle does limit to 1x fan instead of 2x.)
PCI gap cover is going to change to 632 screws.
USB C is in, but audio is not. Case will keep the current 2x A, or A + C, or 2x C options.
I am reducing the pins to 4x rather than 6x per panel. This makes it much easier to remove.
Not likely to change this for v2, but the new RS variant will add more space for long boy GPUs.
I am currently prototyping several vent pattern style to see what can be done. Experiment with mesh did not work out.
More mounting points for PSU are in, both ATX and SFX will be able to mount anywhere in the case.
The flipping feature from the S610/S620 should address this and is cheaper to do than screws.
I was thinking Keystone Jacks might be something to implement, but might be too niche?
Case is so small already that most people I talk to about it are fine with it as is.
Side SFX is in.
New version will not need pigtail.
Full vented panels is going to happen, I just need to figure out styling.
I will put taller feet up for consideration as part of final styling.
USB C is go.
Same as above, reducing pins from 4 to 6 should address this.
Difficult as in they just didn't stay in place? Mighty have to do with the M3 screws currently used there. New version will have larger head 632 screws.
Removable bottom is in!
The dimensions for V2 are staying identical. Only part that will be interchangable from v1 to v2 will be the top panel, feet, and handle. (Maybe front panel.)
I was have a variant of the X v2 drawn that specifically is for MicroATX in the middle, and allows 240mm radiator on top and bottom at same time. I'll probably wait to see what happens with next gen GPUs to actually launch that. Good idea!
With the new NH-D12L cooler it is unlikely that I will make a version that is ~2cm wider just for the D15.
I could see the new RS variant being made a bit wider for big CPU air coolers and GPU water blocks?
Would new D12L and more fans satisfy this requirement?
I mean it's not hard for me to make an XL version for D15 coolers, suppose it could be done.
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VERY cool. I'm really interested to see how this pans out.
Not sure if you know but we use a Cerberus X as our PSU torture rig.
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I don't see the need for an XL version just to fit a D15 cooler.
The D12L comes so close to the D15 in reviews that it's just not worth it. (Example: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/noctua_nh_d12l_cpu_cooler_review,8.html )
The D15 would only really fill a very narrow gap between the D12L and the better AIOs. Unless there's some other benefit of an XL case, I don't see D15 support being worth the additional overhead of a second version.
If they end up making a wider case some migh use the icegiant prosiphon elite cooler for a threadripper build. Also, the next generation of the D15 if noctua ever gets around to making it might be more of an improvement.
I preferr air cooling, but liquid is definitely more compact.
How's the progress on Cerberus V2? Is it too much to hope for a Q1/Q2 2023 release?
What he said! I was watching the Sliger site waiting since July last year!
As far as things I’d like to see,
Handle on top without effecting my ability to use 2 fans, or a radiator.
Swappable rear on the case, something similar to the 011 mini. As much as I dislike the “mini” I do like the idea of being able to shift a motherboard and gpu down, to allow mounting a radiator up top for exhaust. Even a vertical mount replacement panel for the pcie slots, would be useful give the size of the new gen gpus. Leave room for the block manifold and power cable that way. On the other hand, if the case is wide enough to accommodate a 4090 with a water block manifold sticking out, we can all air cool with a d15
Inverted case ability, as long as I can run a radiator, with dual fans, and the handle on top! I really hate dumping all the heat into my case.
And this is purely personal preference, but I miss the venting cut from my sm580, flowed air very well, and gave modest protection to the fans. I cut the bottom out of my cerberus X, and dropped 2c off my loop temps. But that wasn’t why I did it. I knocked 18DBa off my noise levels at full fan speed without the panel on the bottom. Granted, once again, I HATE dumping hot air into my case. And if I had a top mounted rad exhausting, then the fans wouldn’t have been as loud pushing through the grill vs pulling. But they are still fairly restrictive. I do understand that they allow mounting up all kinds of extra things, and I do appreciate that. I used the panel on the front to directly mount my psu’s internally. Allows them to be shifted more, or even front mount an atx, with a short gpu. On the bottom though, I just want unrestricted flow!
Last but not least, taller feet. I knocked another 1c off the loop temps by swapping to Mnpctech feet.
Since the Cerberus V1 line is ending would love to hear some of what’s on the drawing board for V2 next year!
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They said they were looking into a revised model. I certainly hope so. I would love a Cerberus X 2.0; one built for today's longer GPUs.
My ideal Cerberus X 2.0 at the moment would be: ATX support, 330mm GPU clearance with front 280mm AIO, and room for two 140mm x 30mm exhaust fans at the top, optional glass side panel.
Yeah, i think the updated model is probabl;y gonna have to make the x a bit bigger, which kind of goes against the grain around here. For myself, I'd probably only add 15mm width and the same in depth. That really wouldn't add too much room, but would allow for the beefiest air coolers and todays high powered gpu's. And update the front i/o with modern usb ports of course.
I wonder if Chimera is handling the updates, or if Sliger handles it now?
I wonder if Chimera is handling the updates, or if Sliger handles it now?
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I don't think Chimera is part of it anymore.
I liked my Cerberus X. It's actually sitting behind me as we speak and I've used it as a PSU test bench since retiring it as a daily driver. The challenge is finding a modern high-end GPU that fits anymore with an 280mm AIO mounted on the intake of it. I suppose one option would be to move the 280mm AIO mount to the top and the PSU to the front albeit lower in the unit so that it exhausts through the AIO.
Alternately, it could be widened enough to support the big boy air coolers.
Could just do both and it would still be small. SFFN gives more leeway to size when ATX motherboards are in play.
Either way the two things I want altered is support for 25 or 30 mm thick fans for the top exhaust, and a real nice glass panel.
