ASRock’s X600 DeskMini – Finally – Again

Years ago, the SFF community waited with bated breath for the ASRock DeskMini A300. With AMD APU support, it offered a better balance than Intel chips between the CPU and GPU. This SFF Gem was the ideal Deskmini, and the SFF Network community rallied around it by creating custom 3D printed cases, BIOS updates, and more.
Now, the times have changed and AMD’s AM5 platform has arrived. Again, the SFF community waited. It felt like ages but ASRocks X600 DeskMini is finally here.
Asrock was kind enough to send a sample unit to Small Form Factor Network for testing and review. No review guidance was...

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[milesvw]

You can send it to here:

BIOS Collection - Mini PCs + Misc

This is the r/ASRock Wiki - Here you will find a bunch of Guides and Tools. Including an FAQ, a Beta BIOS database and more!

botflakes.de

There is a collection for all DeskMini's

I looked and the H110 STX BIOS was on the Intel page, not the DeskMini page. Odd. (Although TBF the STX board was available separately, and I was seriously drooling over the aftermarket cases back then).

Edit: sorry for off-topic. I submitted it using the link on that site, and a Coffee Lake modBIOS too

 

[Curiosity]

You can get very cheep 12v -> 19v step up converters on aliexpress. I run my 19v laptop from a 12v solarsystem, no trouble at all.

You're correct, but my current setup is 12vo thanks to the X300 being fine with 12V and I was really hoping to keep it that way.
Also it seems in the last few years some more options have come into market that are a smidge smaller than when I was initially looking for my current build. So maybe it'll be fine in the end.

 

[BaK]

You're correct, but my current setup is 12vo thanks to the X300 being fine with 12V and I was really hoping to keep it that way.

Same here

Also it seems in the last few years some more options have come into market that are a smidge smaller than when I was initially looking for my current build. So maybe it'll be fine in the end.

Can you tell us more about this?

 

[milesvw]

I run my 19v laptop from a 12v solarsystem, no trouble at all.

Many factors here. If you have a 3s or 4s laptop (10.8v vs 14.4v nominal, 12.6 max, or 16.8 max). Also how low of a voltage the laptop charger needs to keep functioning. If it's a 2v gap and a max 14v solar system a 3s laptop might be OK.

I've got a NUC8 i7 here that pulls hard, 4.5ghz all core sustained. And runs 12v. And the BIOS will not let me put a GPU on the M.2 slot . It's always something. (I'd love a belt mounted AR/VR gaming rig with Switch Joycons and my RX6400 or better, but now I have the hassle of Thunderbolt and another hot chip).

I'm still waiting for the x4 x8 and x16 to MXM card adapters to get reasonable. The x1 are $20, the x16 are $100 and nothing in between. MXM cards take 19v

 

[mike349]

 

[mike349]

What to you guys think, what will be the next APU after 8700G what X600 can eat ?

 

[Phuncz]

The 9700G, 10700G or Ryzen AI Ultra G 700, who knows

 

[akisu]

According to the news from yesterday AM5 will get at least 3 generations of CPUs, so 9X00G and 10X00G could be possible. But I am writing "could" because ASRock fooled people already with the A300 and refused to release BIOS versions for newer CPUs.

 

[Arboreal]

According to the news from yesterday AM5 will get at least 3 generations of CPUs, so 9X00G and 10X00G could be possible. But I am writing "could" because ASRock fooled people already with the A300 and refused to release BIOS versions for newer CPUs.

As an A300 owner I do feel left behind without official/stable 4x00G and 5x00G support

 

[mike349]

Has anyone used X600 memory: Kingston Fury 2x16GB 6400 mhz - KF564S38IBK2-32 ?

https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF564S38IBK2-32.pdf

• Default (JEDEC): DDR5-4800 CL40-39-39 @ 1.1V
• XMP Profile #1: DDR5-6400 CL38-40-40 @ 1.35V
• XMP Profile #2: DDR5-6000 CL38-38-38 @ 1.35V
• XMP Profile #3: DDR5-5600 CL40-40-40 @ 1.1V

I'm using in my X600 that memory - If I activate XMP1-6400 or XMP2-6000 it works fine for daily tasks. However, if I try to play a game, it takes from a few seconds to a few minutes and the screen goes black - the game itself remains running. Only restart helps. If I activate XMP3-5600, the games work fine. I think the default profiles are maybe too aggressive for the X600 and that's why the picture goes black.

I'm not very up to date with OC, but I can sort of figure out how to do it in the BIOS. At this point, the question is that if someone has specific memories in use or, for example, a 5600 kit and is on OC 6400, would it be possible to get the parameters so that I could try it myself, if I approach it in such a way that I activate XMP3-5600 and then manually tweak other settings to get 6400?

 

[Stoney]

the problem might be the temperature of the 2nd stick. I had the 2nd stick reach 80c before it crashed. The higher you clock or tune your memory the more sensitive it is to high temperatures. Cuz of that i modded my X600 to use a 140mm nocuta fan on top of it. Since then memory temps went down almost by 30c and i can now run my 5600c40 kingston kit at 8000.

 

[CatapultCase]

Has anyone used X600 memory: Kingston Fury 2x16GB 6400 mhz - KF564S38IBK2-32 ?

https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF564S38IBK2-32.pdf

• Default (JEDEC): DDR5-4800 CL40-39-39 @ 1.1V
• XMP Profile #1: DDR5-6400 CL38-40-40 @ 1.35V
• XMP Profile #2: DDR5-6000 CL38-38-38 @ 1.35V
• XMP Profile #3: DDR5-5600 CL40-40-40 @ 1.1V

I'm using in my X600 that memory - If I activate XMP1-6400 or XMP2-6000 it works fine for daily tasks. However, if I try to play a game, it takes from a few seconds to a few minutes and the screen goes black - the game itself remains running. Only restart helps. If I activate XMP3-5600, the games work fine. I think the default profiles are maybe too aggressive for the X600 and that's why the picture goes black.

I'm not very up to date with OC, but I can sort of figure out how to do it in the BIOS. At this point, the question is that if someone has specific memories in use or, for example, a 5600 kit and is on OC 6400, would it be possible to get the parameters so that I could try it myself, if I approach it in such a way that I activate XMP3-5600 and then manually tweak other settings to get 6400?

My desk mini arrives today and I plan to purchase these sticks, I'll let you know how they go with a 8700G

 

[Stoney]

what cooler will you use?

 

[HydrAxx747]

the problem might be the temperature of the 2nd stick. I had the 2nd stick reach 80c before it crashed. The higher you clock or tune your memory the more sensitive it is to high temperatures. Cuz of that i modded my X600 to use a 140mm nocuta fan on top of it. Since then memory temps went down almost by 30c and i can now run my 5600c40 kingston kit at 8000.

What are your BIOS settings to get 8000MHz stable? Could you post a screenshot of latency settings with ZenTimings software?

 

[Stoney]

Here you go. But as i said, the main problem with stability was getting the memory temperature down.

 

[CatapultCase]

Here you go. But as i said, the main problem with stability was getting the memory temperature down.

8000! That's wild!

 

[mike349]

Here you go. But as i said, the main problem with stability was getting the memory temperature down.

Damn!

Can you post here your BIOS RAM settings also ? I see you use 5600 RAM sticks

 

[SFFMunkee]

Very curious how you're setting your voltages to get that, 8000 is brilliant!!
My X300 runs at 4000 and I thought that was quick

 

[Stoney]

i don't set any voltages cuz there are none in the current deskmini x600 bios. I just have to load my 5600c40 1.1v JEDEC profile. The board itself scales it to 1.2v(probably for stability). More voltage would allow for tighter timings but i take what i can get. Also i had to adjust the RTT resistances cuz they went wild on auto and it was not stable at all.

did you try higher than 4000 on the x300? I could do 4200 stable on the x300. You can workaround that not working FCLK setting in the bios by setting the FCLK in the AMD overclocking menu with the help of a bootable stick containing the UniversalAMDFormBrowser.

 

[dacnick]

i don't set any voltages cuz there are none in the current deskmini x600 bios. I just have to load my 5600c40 1.1v JEDEC profile. The board itself scales it to 1.2v(probably for stability). More voltage would allow for tighter timings but i take what i can get. Also i had to adjust the RTT resistances cuz they went wild on auto and it was not stable at all.

did you try higher than 4000 on the x300? I could do 4200 stable on the x300. You can workaround that not working FCLK setting in the bios by setting the FCLK in the AMD overclocking menu with the help of a bootable stick containing the UniversalAMDFormBrowser.

Are you using the stock 120W psu? It gets very toasty under load no?

There is a bios bug if you chose xmp profile, you cannot make adjustment to fclk that is locked to 2000. Zen4 APU can run at least 2400 fclk for Amd recommendation. Please feedback to asrock to check this bug

Asrock standalone x600 list the compatible 180W psu in page 9 fyi.

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/X600TM-ITX.pdf