Weird..I suppose you have setup customed fan curve on fan xpert? It looks like fan is ramping up even when workload is not there.It’s not bad but the the difference for me with the PC on my desk goes from barely audible to definitely noticeable. I only wear my headphones when gaming so I get picky about too much fan churn when browsing and such.
Ahah understood.I have set up a better fan curve in bios and its much better for sure. Dead silent a idle with the panel off though and I am going to mod a fan grill on the panel I have or order another panel or two to play with.
To get an all core OC that is only 100mhz under the stock max boost with a decently low voltage has been excellent really. Its cool in my office space and I'm currently browsing/idling at like 37c 1.1v and 4090 all core and near silent. Can't say enough good things about the Ryzen 3600 and the SM550 combo.
Thanks for sharing your experience..As you well know from all your testing Ryzen 3000 is probably better off with fast ram , good cooling and left alone or just that offset voltage.
But messing with all the levers is too much fun! ?
Maybe its silicon lottery or just this board but even with the offset voltage it was producing higher temp spikes as it surges to 1.35 or more for the boost clock. And that boost was only topping out at 4.175 or so. I was only seeing 3900 all core on CB runs or even sustained in games via Afterburner. I am limited for cooling with the IS 60 so that definitely plays a role. I can play with it some more as I have not used a Gigabyte board in a long time and truthfully the bios is all there but the layout is a mess. Missing that Asus and MSI or Asrock bios which are really easy to navigate intuitive for veterans.
Speaking of lottery I'm getting 3600 on the ram and 1800 fabric which my 3900x would not do on a 3x more expensive board with the same ram. Lol.
Getting 3707-3724 cb R20 Multi with fixed clock and voltage and 475-480 single core depending on the run.
Guru 3d review of the 3600 had 3575 and 462 so i'm at 3600x territory and lower than stock voltage.
I can get 4.2 stable even on the IS 60 but yes it gets hot and I have to go into the 1.3+ range and the cooling isn't enough for that long term. My 3600 is probably fairly average in that regard but seems to handle 4100 at 1.1-1.2 just fine.
Not breaking any records but it has been super stable and performance is few percentage points better than stock numbers which I consider a nice win for a small build on small air cooling.
I'm planning on getting that exact same TV! Would love to hear some more impressions down the line if you're up for itWell I just received and installed my new TV, LG CX55.
It took quite long time to setup everything : TV, TV box, AV receiver and SM550..
Main points were resolution, HDR, refresh rate and ARC.
Gears 5 in 4K HDR is quite impressive even with my gtx 1070 (gears 5 is so good to dynamic resolution).. Still lacking GSync and 120hz hdr refresh (missing hdmi 2.1 gpu) but current result is already impressive..
As expected, my SM550 will become my main gaming setup. It won’t be a fast process but I expect it should be finished by 2021..
So far so good with this LG OLEDCX55..I'm planning on getting that exact same TV! Would love to hear some more impressions down the line if you're up for it
I was mainly wondering about your general impressions of its quality and setup - how was HDR setup challenging? Great to hear that it looks good once configured though. We'll be using it with a HTPC (Renoir-based once desktop APUs launch, will of course be set up to not burn in the OLED), a BD player (non-4k), and likely built-in apps for Netflix and the like. I'll also in all likelihood be lugging the Xbox Series X and/or PS5 to the TV with some regularity, even if they will live in another room most of the time. The vast majority of content watched will be SDR, except for HDR-encoded streaming and games. We won't be needing ARC, as we'll likely be using some sort of active stereo speaker setup (I've been looking at the System Audio Saxo 7, though I'd like something with USB for the HTPC), so TV audio over optical and optical or a USB DAC for the HTPC. I haven't seen any active speakers with ARC, and a receiver or soundbar aren't an option. So the main focus is really getting a TV with great image quality that can handle HDR when needed and has 120Hz support for gaming - which this seems to fit the bill perfectly for.So far so good with this LG OLEDCX55..
Do you have any specific question about it?
Hardest part for me was to setup hdr and arc, playing with setups of 4 different devices. Now I’m very pleased with all video sources. 4K hdr native content is just gorgeous!
What are your video sources? What is your sound system? How do you want to use it?
One important comment : to avoid any burn-in pixels, here are 2 tips (I guess there are same advices as for my first liquid crystal tv...)
- Never cut off completely current (pixels maintenance procedure is occurring during sleep mode)
- Avoid too static and vivid logos for hundreds of hours in row
Globally you won’t be disappointed with it then. SDR input is pretty easy and effective.I was mainly wondering about your general impressions of its quality and setup - how was HDR setup challenging? Great to hear that it looks good once configured though. We'll be using it with a HTPC (Renoir-based once desktop APUs launch, will of course be set up to not burn in the OLED), a BD player (non-4k), and likely built-in apps for Netflix and the like. I'll also in all likelihood be lugging the Xbox Series X and/or PS5 to the TV with some regularity, even if they will live in another room most of the time. The vast majority of content watched will be SDR, except for HDR-encoded streaming and games. We won't be needing ARC, as we'll likely be using some sort of active stereo speaker setup (I've been looking at the System Audio Saxo 7, though I'd like something with USB for the HTPC), so TV audio over optical and optical or a USB DAC for the HTPC. I haven't seen any active speakers with ARC, and a receiver or soundbar aren't an option. So the main focus is really getting a TV with great image quality that can handle HDR when needed and has 120Hz support for gaming - which this seems to fit the bill perfectly for.
Yeah, ARC does absolutely seem useful, but as none of us want a receiver in the living room and active speakers (AFAIK) don't have it I haven't looked into it much. Good thing that it's at least arriving in stereo receivers, last I checked it was just 5.1 and up that got it - and those boxes get huge fast. What HDR source(s) are you using?Globally you won’t be disappointed with it then. SDR input is pretty easy and effective.
For audio I’ve in fact stereo setup (2 klipsch rf-52 floorstanding speaker with marantz avr sr6007, remaining parts of original 5.1 setup that did not convince me overtime).
ARC is arriving in hifi stereo receivers (marantz nr1200 or Sonos amp)...and it’s very convenient as you control volume through tv volume..
ahah I understand...Yeah, ARC does absolutely seem useful, but as none of us want a receiver in the living room and active speakers (AFAIK) don't have it I haven't looked into it much. Good thing that it's at least arriving in stereo receivers, last I checked it was just 5.1 and up that got it - and those boxes get huge fast. What HDR source(s) are you using?
Hi Lallo!Hi MarcParis!
Nice build and I'm very glad there are people like you who document and post photos of their builds so that others like me who are thinking about getting an SFF build can get some very valuable information!
I have some questions:
1.Sorry if I didn't understand, but did you change from the Asetek AIO cooler to the cpu air-cooler because it was better with both performance and noise?
2. How heavy is the case? I've been looking at Sligers website and they mention different weights for sidepanels and all so I can't really figure it out.
I'm looking for a small case I can move between my home city and where I study (not moving it every weekend but a few times a year) and I need something compact but not to heavy as well.
3. So how is the noise now with everything finished? I'm allergic to noise and the "problem" with SFF is that it looks really weird to have such a small case on the floor but putting it on top of my desk obviously will make any noise comming from it to be more noticable.
4. How is the g305 mouse? I'm using a Zowie EC2-A and I love the ergonomic shape which unfortunally haven't appeared in any of the recent wireless mouses yet.
Thnx in advance!
Hi Lallo!
Thanks for your comment!
I'm trying to share my build experience as best as possible...mainly for others but also for me, to know what I've already tested...time to time, same idea is coming back..
Here are my answers.
- No. Asetek 645LT is still best cpu cooler for SM550/560 in terms of performance. IS-60 has other pro/con that I can list below :
- Performance : Asetek 645LT is still best but IS-60 is not that far behind. While gaming, IS-60 is the best as it has access to fresh air, whereas 645LT is receiving hot air from GPU. Cherry on the top is that IS-60 is also cooling all CPU soket area (SSD, RAM, VRM) If setup is more focused on gaming, IS-60 is a better compromise to my eyes.
- Installation : Asetek 645LT (following my guideline) is the easiest one as it does not impose constraints on Motherboard & RAM choices. Only constraint is to use SFX psu...not a great deal. IS-60 is imposing specific motherboard & RAM..and also my SM550 side panel mod (with washers). On the other hand you can use SFX-L psu with IS-60.
- Case is a minor contributor of full setup weight.. Beefy GPU, PSU, motherboard & cpu cooler are way heavier. At the end, setup weight should be around 4-6kg.
- What about noise? SM550 remains one of the best (if not the best)case for GPU thermals...it's as if you were using it on open air benchmark table. Thus while gaming, even close to the case, noise level is very good. On CPU cooling, SM550 remains below average/mediocre (in absolute value) like all small SFF case under 10L. You can cool efficiently cpu up to around 100W but you will hear it on heavy load (either 645LT or IS-60). In idle/low loads scenario, with IS-60, SM550 is reaching silent operation (fanless mod on GPU, others 120mm fan spinning at low rpm...no pump noise). If it's a gaming setup I strongly advice to undervolt/unerclock cpu to reach pretty quiet operation during medium load.
- Logitech G305 is really great. Wireless (logitech "lightspeed" tech) is working great...I don't even notice it's a wireless mouse, no lag, very precise. You can even make it lighter by using AAA battery with AAA to AA conversion case. check below videos :
Let me know what you will choose at the end..
Well Ncase M1 has worse GPU cooling and slightly better cpu cooling compare to SM550...but it's 50% bigger..Thnx for the answers!
So would you recommend this case even if the CPU cooling is mediocre? I was thinking if I maybe should buy an ncase and cool both cpu and gpu with an AIO orsome thing like the Kraken G12.