I opted for an easily understandable message, because image is worth a thousand words and because I'm quite fed up with stuff like the clone or patent mess as of late.
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Production Nouvolo Steck - SFF 8.7-11.2L ITX PC Case, supports liquid cooling
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I opted for an easily understandable message, because image is worth a thousand words and because I'm quite fed up with stuff like the clone or patent mess as of late.
The reason being is the 9900K runs even hotter. You will thermal throttle or even experience thermal shutdown. An AIO is basically required unless you downclock it or you manually lower its target TDP in the BIOS.
I want to test the limit of the case, and the limit of the L12S!
Just to clarify: You'd like me to try no top hat, and L9i pushing air out of the side panel instead of pulling in?
That gives me another idea too; when I get the 15mm fans, I'll try 1.) bottom intake/CPU cooler exhaust, 2.) Top intake/CPU Exhaust.
Exactly that!
And in your case as well, Intake from the L9i, and exhaust bottom or top.
Will do, then when the Big Shuriken shows up on Sunday, I'l work on 1-to-1 comparisons for all the specced configurations there too.
Thank you, man!
Maybe this night I can try the 9900K with the L12S, stock panel, and new panels!
Please let us know of the result, I am interested to know also.
I am breaking out in a cold sweat . Maybe I have designed a Porsche here, and it is test run like a F1.
I have a simple mod to share. I just got my MonsterBolts M3 screws that I had ordered through Amazon ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07981X3QQ/?tag=theminutiae-20 ). They are far and away much better quality than the stock screws. The stock screws’ slots bow and wear very easily. These are much more smoothly formed, premium looking and strong and sturdy. They actually screw in more smoothly and firmly as well. See here.
Stock:
MonsterBolts.com:
Stock:
MonsterBolts.com:
Fir
With that said, the stock flat heads fits perfectly, in that they sit recessed with the hole and the panel. The Monsterbolts one above looks like they sit above the panel- thus the top panel won't sit perfectly flushed.
First of all, you're using the wrong stock screws. You need to use the flat headed ones for this area. There only 4 flat head screws that come with the case. The rest are round heads.I have a simple mod to share. I just got my MonsterBolts M3 screws that I had ordered through Amazon ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07981X3QQ/?tag=theminutiae-20 ). They are far and away much better quality than the stock screws. The stock screws’ slots bow and wear very easily. These are much more smoothly formed, premium looking and strong and sturdy. They actually screw in more smoothly and firmly as well. See here.
Stock:
MonsterBolts.com:
With that said, the stock flat heads fits perfectly, in that they sit recessed with the hole and the panel. The Monsterbolts one above looks like they sit above the panel- thus the top panel won't sit perfectly flushed.
I have counted wrongly and may have not included enough flat head screws. But I will pack more of those in the future. Use round headed screws wherever you don't need to fit flush with the surface. And in any case, those screws are really ubiquitous, with easy modding and finding extras/replacement in mind.
Actually, these are the stock flat ones. The round or bulbous-shaped ones I use solely for the feet and the motherboard mounting. As you noticed, though, the stock flat M3 screws are not as perfectly flat as the MonsterBolts ones I just received. These MonsterBolts screws so strong and precisely formed that they actually grip firmly to the screw driver bit. Very high quality. I highly recommend them. I can try taking a side profile shot later so you can see that I am indeed using the appropriate screws.
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OK, fixed my rig once again with NH-L12S passive cooling and added a 120x15mm fan. Gotta play some games first, will do testing later today or tomorrow . Just to show you guys the 120mm fan fits perfectly, still using Corsair PSU stock cables, lots of room to spare for the fan, normal rev at ~800-900rpm (web browsing). Can feel a cool breeze pumping in there, will see with tests later, but so far it feels good.
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Test results - Prime95 small FFT 10min
CPU temp (idle / test) : 51 / 84 degC [ 79degC with CPU side panel (only) opened ]
CPU cores speed (idle / test) : - / 3.7GHz [ stock ]
CPU power draw (idle / test) : 27 / 129 W
CPU fan speed (idle / test) : 810 / 1849 rpm
Chassis fan speed (idle / test) : 783 / 1753 rpm
I think the bottom fan helps A LOT! This will be official recommendation for stress test condition for i7/2700x config. And I think that under "real life" usage it should seldom reach such loads. Putting on the cover adds about 4-5degC.
. Just to show you guys the 120mm fan fits perfectly, still using Corsair PSU stock cables, lots of room to spare for the fan, normal rev at ~800-900rpm (web browsing). Can feel a cool breeze pumping in there, will see with tests later, but so far it feels good.
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Test results - Prime95 small FFT 10min
- System : Ryzen 2 2700x, Asus B450-i
- Cooler : Noctua NH-L12S (pull out)
- Chassis fan : Noctua NF-A12x15PWM (bottom, push in)
- All panels closed
CPU temp (idle / test) : 51 / 84 degC [ 79degC with CPU side panel (only) opened ]
CPU cores speed (idle / test) : - / 3.7GHz [ stock ]
CPU power draw (idle / test) : 27 / 129 W
CPU fan speed (idle / test) : 810 / 1849 rpm
Chassis fan speed (idle / test) : 783 / 1753 rpm
I think the bottom fan helps A LOT! This will be official recommendation for stress test condition for i7/2700x config. And I think that under "real life" usage it should seldom reach such loads. Putting on the cover adds about 4-5degC.
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I did it: Intel 9900K:
all AUTO in the ASUS bios, only Multi Core Enhancement DIsabled
Ram XMP Profile at 3200 CAS14
Nvidia P5000
Noctua NH L12S in Exhaust
Custom panel
To mount the L12S on this Asus, I've removed the I/O shroud and replaced the VRM heatsink with the full copper by Enzotech.
It's insane!!! Intel did a GREAT JOB!
Under Prime95, 3.6GHZ ALL CORE, 95W, 65 Degrees MAX
Under Real Bench stress test: 4.2GHZ ALL CORE, 98W TDP, 75 Degrees MAX
Intel Burn Test: FROM 4.7 TO 3.9 GHZ CONSTANT, 97W TDP, 65 Degrees MAX (70 degrees CPU Package)
I've found my FINAL SMALL WORKSTATION!
Enjoy!
all AUTO in the ASUS bios, only Multi Core Enhancement DIsabled
Ram XMP Profile at 3200 CAS14
Nvidia P5000
Noctua NH L12S in Exhaust
Custom panel
To mount the L12S on this Asus, I've removed the I/O shroud and replaced the VRM heatsink with the full copper by Enzotech.
It's insane!!! Intel did a GREAT JOB!
Under Prime95, 3.6GHZ ALL CORE, 95W, 65 Degrees MAX
Under Real Bench stress test: 4.2GHZ ALL CORE, 98W TDP, 75 Degrees MAX
Intel Burn Test: FROM 4.7 TO 3.9 GHZ CONSTANT, 97W TDP, 65 Degrees MAX (70 degrees CPU Package)
I've found my FINAL SMALL WORKSTATION!
Enjoy!
Side note here: I’m late to the party but cable mod will make shorter cables on request. I had to email them before purchase and ask them. Then after purchase I detailed my lengths and they took care of me. And pslatecustoms looks like they are awesome but haven’t had a chance to use them yet.
Edit: firsthand experience as they did the cables in my Cerberus x and was very happy with the results.
I did do my lengths in increments of 25mm, don’t know if I had too, but that was close to their configurator settings, was very happy with it.
Sent off my case in prep for BF purchase. Since i'll have to ship it home from work I'll keep it ACed now, then order up the AIO either on BF if the deal is right or after I get settled in my new job/place.
