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Production Nouvolo Steck - SFF 8.7-11.2L ITX PC Case, supports liquid cooling

fabio

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Here is my “über original” cardboard box test bench. (Quick and dirty morning photo before work. No paper white background... yet. ;) )

COOL!
Can I ask if you can show me a top view and side on the RAM side to check the clearance? Could you remove the RAM with the L12 mounted?

So impatient to receive my stuff!!
 

Hifihedgehog

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COOL!
Can I ask if you can show me a top view and side on the RAM side to check the clearance? Could you remove the RAM with the L12 mounted?

So impatient to receive my stuff!!
Sure! I’ll try taking top and side view photos during my lunch in about two hours from now.

As to your second question, no, RAM cannot be removed once the cooler is mounted.

EDIT: Slight delay. I was home for lunch, but I had other important things to tend to. After work, however, I should be free to snap these photos.

EDIT: Here you go!


 
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Poblopuablo

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Yeah, the Pallas is a total pain in the rear to work with. Lots of coolers don't have a fixed cross-bar that goes across the cold plate, but the difficulty of installing a cooler with a non-fixed cross-bar goes up exponentially with such a short, wide cooler. Plus, installing the fan clips is unnecessarily hard. The Pallas does a nice job of cooling, but I don't recommend it. It's RAM clearance is terrible, and it's really restrictive on which orientation you can mount it in. For instance, if you have the ends of the heat pipes facing towards the I/O, you can't install the I/O shield because it will interfere.

I had intended to install it on the Ryzen 7 1800X, but my Ripjaws V RAM is too tall. I had Ripjaws X DDR3 on the i7-4790K set up that I had to swap for Crucial Ballistix (cost me $60) in order to get it to fit on that. With the price of DDR4, I just couldn't afford to swap out the Ripjaws V on the Ryzen 1800X system for something shorter. Other than the RAM height, I think it would have fit on the ASRock AB350.

I have lpx ram already so that's not an issue, For me.

But does it extend over the motherboard? (Thinking specifically with the ends of the heatpipes over the RAM)if so I can use it in the salvo 400 since The Mobo is right up against the PSU. :(
 

fabio

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Cool! Thanks man! Maybe tilting a bit the RAM will be possible, seems there is space!
 

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I have lpx ram already so that's not an issue, For me.

But does it extend over the motherboard? (Thinking specifically with the ends of the heatpipes over the RAM)if so I can use it in the salvo 400 since The Mobo is right up against the PSU. :(

I'll have to check when I pull both systems when my Nouvolo Steck arrives. The ASRock AB350 is currently in my NCASE M1 with the NH-D9L cooler, so I can't tell if the Pallas has no other clearance problems (other than the RAM) unless I pull it out.
 

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He has one pictured, more curious about cpu gpu temps
From my crude testing:
CPU temps
Passive idle/load : 60s / 80s degC
Liquid idle/load : 50s / 60s degC

Logically thermals should be comparable with existing sff cases out there (that with similar config) If any difference, this case should perform better in passive mode with higher TDP passive cooler.
 
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fabio

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From my crude testing:
CPU temps
Passive idle/load : 60s / 80s degC
Liquid idle/load : 50s / 60s degC

Logically thermals should be comparable with existing sff cases out there (that with similar config) If any difference, this case should perform better in passive mode with higher TDP passive cooler.
But 60 and 50 degrees in idle are not too much?? Which CPU are you using?
 

fabio

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Ryzen 1800X stock
There should be something wrong, don't you think? My 8700K In idle with "only" a Noctua L9 stay at 30/35s degree in a Dan case with the fan at 30% and normal windows/chrome use. And is not a binned chip!
 

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There should be something wrong, don't you think? My 8700K In idle with "only" a Noctua L9 stay at 30/35s degree in a Dan case with the fan at 30% and normal windows/chrome use. And is not a binned chip!
Let us know from your testing. I expect better results from you guys. I just try to be more conservative. And I don't officially announce any test results at this stage as I havent the time to do it.
 

fabio

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Let us know from your testing. I expect better results from you guys. I just try to be more conservative. And I don't officially announce any test results at this stage as I havent the time to do it.
Sure!! You should propose a "test benchmark list" like:

30 minutes in Prime95
MSI Kombustor
etc.

So we can compare better hardware and configuration.

What do you think?
 

macbosco

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Sure!! You should propose a "test benchmark list" like:...

What do you think?
I have used realbench from Asus, I havent quite figured out about prime95, seems temp kept going up and drawing more power until PSU cutoff. And I was using 600W Corsair... Maybe it's the prime95 settings... but then hard to compare if everyone uses a different setting. I have read something about prime95 not being friendly with ryzen CPUs?
 
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fabio

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I have used realbench from Asus, I havent quite figured out about prime95, seems temp kept going up and drawing more power until PSU cutoff. And I was using 600W Corsair... Maybe it's the prime95 settings... but then hard to compare if everyone uses a different setting. I have read something about prime95 not being friendly with ryzen CPUs?
Is the reason why. You can decide and suggest to people a bunch of software and their settings, so we can be consistent in reviews! It's just a suggestion, but was to not fall in 100000 of variables, one for each config.

In the next week my build!