Nanook's build log (9900K / Asrock Z390 / RTX 2080Ti)

[Nanook]

Was the Strix z390 heatsink/shroud hard to remove? I'm thinking about removing it so I can place another 92 mm fan. Alternatively I might switch over to the asrock board instead. How are you liking your asrock board compared to the previous strix?

The VRM heatsinks are very easy to remove. Just a few screws on the bottom. The main block is made out of three chunks covering the I/O components, but you should be able to remove all of them in a single sub-assembly. Just hang on to the thermal pads, in case you don’t have any on hand, and plan to reinstall the heatsinks.
I prefer the Strix BIOS / UEFI interface (maybe because I’m used to Strix. I’ve been using Z270i, Z370i, and Z390i). The RGB is also nicer one the Strix. The Asrock board is solid so far. I prefer that it is easier to reset with a push botton on the rear I/O, and the CMOS battery isn’t covered by the giant heatsink on the Strix Z390i.

 

[brt02]

I tried out HWinfo, but wasn’t sure what the motherboard VRM is labeled as. I found one temperature reading that said 78c, I assume that was the VRM, as my CPU was at 100c. (running Prime95, with unlimited power limit, and throttling).

Should be called VR VCC Temperature (SVID) or some variation of that as per the developer's notes (linked below)

https://www.overclock.net/forum/21-...ial-hwinfo-32-64-thread-191.html#post27763584

Could be that the ASrock BIOS already reports VRM temperatures - the Z370-i doesn't. I suppose you'll know if you see a temperature reading <100C in HWinfo with XTU showing VR throttling.

 

[Nanook]

Should be called VR VCC Temperature (SVID) or some variation of that as per the developer's notes (linked below)

https://www.overclock.net/forum/21-...ial-hwinfo-32-64-thread-191.html#post27763584

Could be that the ASrock BIOS already reports VRM temperatures - the Z370-i doesn't. I suppose you'll know if you see a temperature reading <100C in HWinfo with XTU showing VR throttling.

Thanks! I’ll look for that label. I probably won’t go back to the Asus board in the near term. The 78c was the highest temperature other than the CPU temps.

 

[fabio]

@Nanook.
I will try this option end of this week: C14S intake, another 140mm intake, 92mm exhaust, and the Seasonic SGX 650 Exhausting.

BTW, was ok to install your C14 with the ASrock VRM heatsink?

Next, if not happy, will be to switch to an U9S, vertical exhaust through top. 92 mm as intake, side 140mm as exhaust maybe?

(I will use a Streacom DA2 FYI)

 

[fabio]

NOCTUA has updated the TDP for the CPU cooler:

C14S: 205W
C14: 195W
U9S: 195W (But is not clear if with one or two fans)

 

[tinyitx]

@Nanook.
I will try this option end of this week: C14S intake, another 140mm intake, 92mm exhaust, and the Seasonic SGX 650 Exhausting.

BTW, was ok to install your C14 with the ASrock VRM heatsink?

Next, if not happy, will be to switch to an U9S, vertical exhaust through top. 92 mm as intake, side 140mm as exhaust maybe?

(I will use a Streacom DA2 FYI)

What is your GPU?

 

[fabio]

What is your GPU?

Titan RTX

 

[tinyitx]

Titan RTX

I look forward to see the thermals of your GPU and CPU inside a DA2., especially when you use a C14S.

 

[Nanook]

@Nanook.
I will try this option end of this week: C14S intake, another 140mm intake, 92mm exhaust, and the Seasonic SGX 650 Exhausting.

BTW, was ok to install your C14 with the ASrock VRM heatsink?

Next, if not happy, will be to switch to an U9S, vertical exhaust through top. 92 mm as intake, side 140mm as exhaust maybe?

(I will use a Streacom DA2 FYI)

Yes, C14 fits on the Asrock motherboard!
So far so good in terms of thermals.

 

[Nanook]

NOCTUA has updated the TDP for the CPU cooler:

C14S: 205W
C14: 195W
U9S: 195W (But is not clear if with one or two fans)

Thanks! I’m assuming that the TDP numbers for all three SKUs are using two fans. I’m going to bump up my power limit to match those numbers. Based on my tests so far, Noctua’s new numbers are on point

 

[tinyitx]

Thanks! I’m assuming that the TDP numbers for all three SKUs are using two fans. I’m going to bump up my power limit to match those numbers. Based on my tests so far, Noctua’s new numbers are on point

hmmm....I think those numbers are referring to using a single fan. My rationale is that Noctua supplies each cooler with a single fan as standard configuration. So, their TDP numbers correspond to this default setting.

 

[Nanook]

hmmm....I think those numbers are referring to using a single fan. My rationale is that Noctua supplies each cooler with a single fan as standard configuration. So, their TDP numbers correspond to this default setting.

Good point. However, the C14 comes with two fans stock, vs one fan for the C14S, or one for the U9S.

 

[tinyitx]

Good point. However, the C14 comes with two fans stock, vs one fan for the C14S, or one for the U9S.

Ah...Sorry...I was thinking more of the C14S and U9S and forgetting the now discontinued C14.
Anyway, those Noctua TDP numbers should correspond to their 'standard' configuration. So, 2 fans for C14 and 1 fan for C14S/U9S.
Now, IIRC, when Noctua first released the C14S, they advertised it as a replacement for C14 and they claimed the benefit is not only its asymmetry but also its single fan performance equaling dual fan configuration of the C14.

 

[Nanook]

Ah...Sorry...I was thinking more of the C14S and U9S and forgetting the now discontinued C14.
Anyway, those Noctua TDP numbers should correspond to their 'standard' configuration. So, 2 fans for C14 and 1 fan for C14S/U9S.
Now, IIRC, when Noctua first released the C14S, they advertised it as a replacement for C14 and they claimed the benefit is not only its asymmetry but also its single fan performance equaling dual fan configuration of the C14.

I missed out on the phasing out of the C14, and the marketing of the C14S. Blind spot for me for some reason. Either way, that’s a pretty impressive marketing claim

 

[Nanook]

Played with some overclocking with a 240mm AIO (basic Thermaltake Water 3.0)

5.2 ghz all cores
4.7 ghz all cores AVX
vcore auto - up to 1.392v

No power limits
92c with Prime95 small FFT

4x A12x25 fans:

• 2x for Side pull intake based on CPU temps
• 2x for Bottom exhaust based on GPU temps, minimum 1000rpm

 

[Nanook]

I might keep the 240mm AIO for a bit, I'll dial speeds back down to 5ghz (all cores), 1.344v, 215w power limit, -2 AVX offset.
Going to run a series of CPU renderings overnight. Workload hovers around 75c. (Prime95 small FFT will probably be 85c)

 

[rfarmer]

Those temps seem pretty good for the overclock and power limit you have set, might be a keeper.

 

[Nanook]

Overnight CPU rendering batch turned out good. No crashes, overheating, etc.

Update for today...
Ran Prime95 small FFT and Heaven at the same time for thirty minutes. This isn't a realistic workload for my use case, but probably the worst case scenario. As a reminder, my air flow is designed to pull fresh air from the side vent through the radiator, hot air gets blown towards the motherboard, and expelled out the two bottom fans. I wanted to see if the VRM and graphics card gets overheated this way... I ran this for 30 minutes, and took some intermittent readings. Seems like the VRM maxes out at 99c, and graphics card stays at 64c. Like @rfarmer said above... this setup is a keeper Love the Ncase M1!

Screenshots below:

At about 5 minutes:

15 minutes:

30 minutes:

 

[Peppe]

Oh my . I don't wanna remove my heatsink (z390i)
I'd better look for another cooler. Can nh-l9x65 be mounted?
Your build has helped me.

I used the l9x65 and it works very well. Here's my setup...

https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/loque-ghost-s1-build.10183/#post-133967

 

[snorlax]

Hi, Nanook, will you sell your ghost s1 case?