Production Meshlicious Redesign - Vertical, 280AIO mainstream case

[thelaughingman]

I been playing with two 180mm fan on 360 rad, cooling pretty insane, similar surface area to 280+240.

I was thinking 3x 120 so different 360 haha, but 2x 180 would definitely be cool to see - look forward to more details

EDIT: AFAIK there's only Alphacool doing 180mm rad and Silverstone doing 180mm fans. is that the combination you've been experimenting with?

 

[griever]

settle for dual 240?

So... it's called Radlicious?

 

[Wahaha360]

I was thinking 3x 120 so different 360 haha, but 2x 180 would definitely be cool to see - look forward to more details

EDIT: AFAIK there's only Alphacool doing 180mm rad and Silverstone doing 180mm fans. is that the combination you've been experimenting with?

I got the Magicool 360 (180x2), cooper and 30mm thin, with dual SilverStone AP184i fans.

 

[thelaughingman]

I got the Magicool 360 (180x2), cooper and 30mm thin, with dual SilverStone AP184i fans.

that is a nice combo! airflow must be insane!

can share what you compare it against?

 

[Barracuda727]

whohoho cant wait to see, where U predict than we can actually see this case or at least pics of it, its almost 1 year from meshlicious v1, ideas to implement please add pcie 5.0 riser must have in 2022 and remove all your circle/ring holes and make hexagonal holes all across the case like U have on back but u got few haxagonal holes, Velka 5 or phanteks evolv , Anthe w19 or some other cases have all across almost, its more beautiful and looks more premium and u got more air, your holes are to small and U quick find dust, , just make bigger holes on front and side....and again U will have best ITX mini case in 2022

 

[Luke NK]

If you guys have suggestions for deisgn and hardware changes, I might be able to squeeze it in last minute.

a 360 radiator support, instead of 280, would result in better GPU connectors compatibility, case would be taller, but also "slimer" as in no need for 140mm fans, compensating volume, still being around 14.5L. anyways not quite a small modification.

 

[Valantar]

whohoho cant wait to see, where U predict than we can actually see this case or at least pics of it, its almost 1 year from meshlicious v1, ideas to implement please add pcie 5.0 riser must have in 2022 and remove all your circle/ring holes and make hexagonal holes all across the case like U have on back but u got few haxagonal holes, Velka 5 or phanteks evolv , Anthe w19 or some other cases have all across almost, its more beautiful and looks more premium and u got more air, your holes are to small and U quick find dust, , just make bigger holes on front and side....and again U will have best ITX mini case in 2022

I have to disagree with you there: stamped hex holes like that look dirt cheap, they've been a standard feature on bargain-basement atx tower cases (like that top pic) for a decade or more. They have the advantage of being wide open for airflow, but they have no place on a premium product. The mesh on the Meshlicious manages a great best of all worlds compromise (airflow, dust protection, aesthetics). Given how Streacom are very looks and premium materials focused historically, I would be shocked if they went with cheapo stamped hex patterned steel for this.

 

[Revenant]

I been playing with two 180mm fan on 360 rad, cooling pretty insane, similar surface area to 280+240.

Can you get a company to build a matching AIO?

 

[RandomBurger]

Here is the full build guide for those interested: https://www.performance-computer.com/builds/ssupd-meshlicious/

Hope it helps someone out there. Will eventually get a founders 3080 at MSRP to finish this one...

Nice write up!
Is it possible that to slide a long card between the FLT pump/res combo and the sandwich spine/divider?

 

[BRSxIgnition]

Not sure why this is getting revised again so soon but I guess some will be excited - finally happy with my build though and I have cats too so less filtering/mesh is probably not worth it for me.

Oh well, will follow out of curiosity.

 

[robojim]

Not sure why this is getting revised again so soon but I guess some will be excited - finally happy with my build though and I have cats too so less filtering/mesh is probably not worth it for me.

Oh well, will follow out of curiosity.

Yeah I'm not sure I'm going to undo my custom loop either lol but I'm interested to see what else comes with the case

 

[Wahaha360]

Can you get a company to build a matching AIO?

Already done

Working on multiple.

 

[Wahaha360]

a 360 radiator support, instead of 280, would result in better GPU connectors compatibility, case would be taller, but also "slimer" as in no need for 140mm fans, compensating volume, still being around 14.5L. anyways not quite a small modification.

I think you are in favor of making case more narrow to compensate for 360 radiator right?

This one reduces air cooling.

Also, 360 radiators are basically 400mm tall, that’s 40mm in height that has to come from either depth or width. The meshlicious V1 is 167mm wide, that means reducing width by 40m to less than 130mm wide, it won’t fit 140mm fans or 280.

 

[Qu1ckset]

Why all the push for the 360rads ? a 280 cools just as much as a 360, and much rather keep it similar dimensions rather then make the case taller..

Im loving the meshlicious, excited to see what's next!

 

[Mackan]

Make the front I/O a modular plate if possible, in the sense that it can be removed and replaced with another plate using, let's say, a simple vandal switch only. With the Meshlishious the I/O holes are stamped onto the front metal. Cannot be removed.

 

[Michael]

discord invite is expired

 

[Michael]

duplicate.

 

[moosh]

I’ll contribute my thoughts because I just ended up selecting an H1 over the Meshi for a handful of reasons:

- H1 has a smaller footprint. That’s fine to leave as-is as the ability to fit a larger rad is a fair trade-off.
- The blue LED in the power button was a huge turn off for me. I think it looks dated and cheap. Much prefer the white ring of the H1.
- The lack of a headphone jack in the front I/O. Again, this a feature that the H1 had that the Meshi didn’t.
- Lack of cable management. Obviously that’s a shoe-in for the H1 because the included PSU comes with pre-routed cables. But there should be some more consideration for cable management with the Meshi. I didn’t like that I’d have to buy additional hardware to offset either the gpu or mobo to manage the cables to any reasonable degree.
- Undercarriage clearance. I appreciate that the Meshi has easy access to the rear I/O but there should be more space at the underside. Either that or the case should’ve come with a 90 degree DP adapter or right-angled connector, in addition to the 90 degree HDMI. Along with the stand-off mod, I didn’t appreciate the fact that I would’ve had to buy a new cable or aftermarket legs to connect to my monitor using a DP cable.
- I think the vented top panel was the right move. More room at the top or a dedicated bracket to fit a fan would’ve been a good design move.

These were all the factors that made me go for the H1 over the Meshi. BUT, I like the breathable nature of it, the interchangeable side panels, and ease of access into the chassis. If the other factors I mentioned above were slightly different in design, I probably would’ve gone Meshi instead. I’m keeping my eyes open for the redux though because I love building in new cases

 

[Valantar]

I’ll contribute my thoughts because I just ended up selecting an H1 over the Meshi for a handful of reasons:

- H1 has a smaller footprint. That’s fine to leave as-is as the ability to fit a larger rad is a fair trade-off.
- The blue LED in the power button was a huge turn off for me. I think it looks dated and cheap. Much prefer the white ring of the H1.
- The lack of a headphone jack in the front I/O. Again, this a feature that the H1 had that the Meshi didn’t.
- Lack of cable management. Obviously that’s a shoe-in for the H1 because the included PSU comes with pre-routed cables. But there should be some more consideration for cable management with the Meshi. I didn’t like that I’d have to buy additional hardware to offset either the gpu or mobo to manage the cables to any reasonable degree.
- Undercarriage clearance. I appreciate that the Meshi has easy access to the rear I/O but there should be more space at the underside. Either that or the case should’ve come with a 90 degree DP adapter or right-angled connector, in addition to the 90 degree HDMI. Along with the stand-off mod, I didn’t appreciate the fact that I would’ve had to buy a new cable or aftermarket legs to connect to my monitor using a DP cable.
- I think the vented top panel was the right move. More room at the top or a dedicated bracket to fit a fan would’ve been a good design move.

These were all the factors that made me go for the H1 over the Meshi. BUT, I like the breathable nature of it, the interchangeable side panels, and ease of access into the chassis. If the other factors I mentioned above were slightly different in design, I probably would’ve gone Meshi instead. I’m keeping my eyes open for the redux though because I love building in new cases

IMO what you're describing is essentially the how and why of the Meshlicious vs. the H1, and changing the factors you're describing would either make the Meshy much larger or make them essentially identical. The H1 keeps a small size through only supporting a 140mm rad and stacking its PSU above it, and keeps a small footprint for much the same reason. The Meshlicious has a larger footprint as it fits its radiator on a plane that intersects the motherboard's plane instead of "floating" above it (and supports thicker rad/fan combos). Moving the rad to a H1-like position wouldn't change much - IMO it would likely increase the size of the case compared to its current volume. Making specific affordances for cable management would also necessitate a volume increase. For the record, I've had no issues stuffing most of my PSU cables behind the PSU for a reasonably clean look. No mods or extra hardware needed, just the PSU in the outermost position. This obviously won't work with the glass side panel unless you have a PSU that can have its fan facing inwards, but it's definitely doable. I agree on the GPU cable clearance part though - either the case should come bundled with optional feet (not a fan, wouldn't look as good) or some sort of angled GPU adapter. I got some slim ADT-link adapters that work very well, but at least one should be included. It does come with an angled HDMI cable, but I use DP and that cable is way too short for my needs, so that didn't help much.

There's also the issue of cooling, with the H1 leaving the GPU to act as a set of intake fans, which is quite sub-optimal (non-ducted fans spaced out from a side panel won't do a good job of pulling air in, and will recycle hot air), which the dual panel-mounted fans of the Meshy and the different layout solves to some degree.

Still, I think what you're ultimately saying here is just that you preferred the H1. Which is obviously fine. But asking for the Meshy to be more like the H1 in that regard ... well, then it wouldn't be the Meshy. It would be a weird H1 copy. That's both the beauty and the major annoyance of SFF cases - it's a game of a lot of compromises, always. The H1 has some great strengths - it's a good bundle, it's compact, it cools most CPUs decently, and it's well though out (hinged radiator bracket, cable management). But it also has disadvantages in overall cooling and airflow, especially GPU cooling. The Meshy is slightly larger, cools better, affords custom loop building if you want to, is more flexible. But also is less thought out as a package - it just isn't designed that way, and IMO this is an inherent binary choice; getting both wide choice/lots of flexibility and good cohesive package design is nearly impossible. And that's just a tradeoff anyone building a PC will always need to grapple with. We all have different preferences, and nothing is going to be universally the best case for everyone

 

[Sen]

Could we get a new discord invite that doesn't expire? Both the website and this thread link aren't working!