GPU Review: Low Profile & Single Slot RTX 4060 (Frankenstein) from Taobao

[SFFMunkee]

Both require modded drivers...

Boo - I assumed as much because 4060m chipset but was hopeful

 

[jujudk]

Boo - I assumed as much because 4060m chipset but was hopeful

As far as i understand it you can pretty much force the use of the official driver, it's in the franenstein driver repo

kinda bummed about pricing, hopefully they can ship directly through aliexpress ?

 

[00Joshua00]

Hey... look a this video for the driver problem.....

 

[REVOCCASES]

Hey... look a this video for the driver problem.....

just tried it with NVcleaninstall and it * seems * to work - but you need to manually select the correct hardware ID for this 4060m from a long list in NVcleaninstall



still need to try if it also works with a clean windows installation, since I already had the modded driver installed on this system before

 

[Keylein]

A trick could make the latest Nvidia game-ready driver work on this modded graphic card with mobile GPU chips without 3rd party software.

1: Download the latest driver on Nvidia's website

2: Extract it using 7zip or other unzip tools

3: Get to the device manager, right-click on the GPU device with an exclaimation mark, and select update driver

4: Select the correct inf in the unzip files and try to install the 1660ti max Q driver, if nothing goes wrong the driver should be able to recognize the GPU and the exclamation mark in the device manager should be gone

5: Double-click the driver you downloaded in step 1 and perform normal installation again. If not the DLSS function will be bugged and unable to turn on in the game.

 

[REVOCCASES]

A trick could make the latest Nvidia game-ready driver work on this modded graphic card with mobile GPU chips without 3rd party software.

1: Download the latest driver on Nvidia's website

2: Extract it using 7zip or other unzip tools

3: Get to the device manager, right-click on the GPU device with an exclaimation mark, and select update driver

4: Select the correct inf in the unzip files and try to install the 1660ti max Q driver, if nothing goes wrong the driver should be able to recognize the GPU and the exclamation mark in the device manager should be gone

5: Double-click the driver you downloaded in step 1 and perform normal installation again. If not the DLSS function will be bugged and unable to turn on in the game.

Did you try this yourself? It doesn't work for me with the 4060m ...

 

[Keylein]

Did you try this yourself? It doesn't work for me with the 4060m ...

Surely I did...
I bought an RTX4060 from HuiTong and installed it into the Minisforum MS-01 with the latest driver as shown below.

Knew about this method because I've been hands-on with a modified RTX2080m before.
It shared the same method to get the windows to recognize the graphic card so I tried.
Fortunately, it works.

 

[jianhuiz]

> Select the correct inf in the unzip files and try to install the 1660ti max Q driver

How to do this exactly? I tried a couple inf files, but no "1660ti max Q driver" shows up.

 

[milesvw]

Sad at price, can get a real 4060 for $295 from Amazon. This is $350 off SuperBuy. I would want to use it in a H610 PIO. I can remove the fans and put a blower or two over the PIO motherboard (hot tip, the Zillion H610 PIO board is $73 on AliExpress this week). That would accomplish basically what I want for much cheaper.

I do like the small flat power connection however. I have already bought the mini connectors and pins for Gigabyte 3080 Turbo cards. (I put a Zotac 3090 Trinity fan on one)

 

[Keylein]

> Select the correct inf in the unzip files and try to install the 1660ti max Q driver

How to do this exactly? I tried a couple inf files, but no "1660ti max Q driver" shows up.

Sorry for the late response.
You may try the following steps to get it.

1. Open Device Manager
2. Right-click "display adapter", and select the correct device.
3. Select "update driver".
4. Click "Browse my computer for drivers".
5. Click "Let me pick from a list...".
6. Press the "Have Disk..." button.
7. Browse for .\(your extracted driver's folder)\Display.Driver\nvaci.inf
8. Click "OK".
9. Uncheck "Show compatible hardware"

You should now see the 1660ti max Q driver from the list.

 

[Gingerbeer]

Surely I did...
I bought an RTX4060 from HuiTong and installed it into the Minisforum MS-01 with the latest driver as shown below.

Knew about this method because I've been hands-on with a modified RTX2080m before.
It shared the same method to get the windows to recognize the graphic card so I tried.
Fortunately, it works.

Is this the single slot 4060m you're talking about? I've just ordered an MS-01 and I'm looking at GPU options. I'm seriously considering an A4000 SFF and a slimline cooler from n3rdware but, if this 4060m is viable in the MS-01, I'd rather save a serious chunk of change.

I'd like to see the performance differential between the 4060M 70w and 90w models against each other and the desktop 4060.

 

[Hewligan]

Is this the single slot 4060m you're talking about? I've just ordered an MS-01 and I'm looking at GPU options. I'm seriously considering an A4000 SFF and a slimline cooler from n3rdware but, if this 4060m is viable in the MS-01, I'd rather save a serious chunk of change.

I'd like to see the performance differential between the 4060M 70w and 90w models against each other and the desktop 4060.

Here is what I could glean from online, but this is all a bit flaky as it is difficult to get good numbers:

Timespy:

• RTX 3050 6GB at 70w = 5000
• A2000 at 70w = 6000
• Estimated 2000e = 6500
• 4060M at 70w = 7500
• 2000 Ada at 70w = 8500
• 4060M at 90W = 9000
• 4060 LP non M (2 slot) at 115w = 10,000
• 4000 Ada SFF (2 slot) at 70w = 10-11000

Keep in mind the two in orange require custom drivers, but are single slot.

The 2000e shown in red is just an estimate from me as to the performance of the RTX 2000e based on what I could find online - there are no actual results in the Timespy database yet. I took about 75% performance of the 2000 Ada.

The others are double-slot, but obviously the two Ada models and the A2000 can be modified with a N3rdware cooler.

If you need a single slot card for the MS-01:

• A2000 6GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for < 300 euros (used card)
• A2000 12GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for <380 euros (used card)
• 2000e Ada can be had for about 600-650 euroes (new card)
• 2000 Ada with n3rdware cooler can be had for about 700 euros (new) - I would guess you will have to underclock and power limit it to about 60w, so maybe lose 10-15% performance? Not sure whether it will end up being more like a 2000e, or a touch better?

I know this is all a bit of a mess. Personally a used A2000 still looks like the best deal to me. I picked one up for < 200 euros a while back. I did then fry it. I have now fried 2. However, I had a lot of fun power modding them and doing all sorts of mean things to them. Great little cards.

Another interesting option may be to design a single slot cooler for the 3050 6GB (although the displayport adapter is on slot 2, so probably not possible to make it 1 slot).

 

[Gingerbeer]

Here is what I could glean from online, but this is all a bit flaky as it is difficult to get good numbers:

Timespy:

• RTX 3050 6GB at 70w = 5000
• A2000 at 70w = 6000
• Estimated 2000e = 6500
• 4060M at 70w = 7500
• 2000 Ada at 70w = 8500
• 4060M at 90W = 9000
• 4060 LP non M (2 slot) at 115w = 10,000
• 4000 Ada SFF (2 slot) at 70w = 10-11000

Keep in mind the two in orange require custom drivers, but are single slot.

The 2000e shown in red is just an estimate from me as to the performance of the RTX 2000e based on what I could find online - there are no actual results in the Timespy database yet. I took about 75% performance of the 2000 Ada.

The others are double-slot, but obviously the two Ada models and the A2000 can be modified with a N3rdware cooler.

If you need a single slot card for the MS-01:

• A2000 6GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for < 300 euros (used card)
• A2000 12GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for <380 euros (used card)
• 2000e Ada can be had for about 600-650 euroes (new card)
• 2000 Ada with n3rdware cooler can be had for about 700 euros (new) - I would guess you will have to underclock and power limit it to about 60w, so maybe lose 10-15% performance? Not sure whether it will end up being more like a 2000e, or a touch better?

I know this is all a bit of a mess. Personally a used A2000 still looks like the best deal to me. I picked one up for < 200 euros a while back. I did then fry it. I have now fried 2. However, I had a lot of fun power modding them and doing all sorts of mean things to them. Great little cards.

Another interesting option may be to design a single slot cooler for the 3050 6GB (although the displayport adapter is on slot 2, so probably not possible to make it 1 slot).

I ordered an RTX 4000 SFF single slot cooler from N3rdware last night. By the time it arrives, I will have sold off enough stuff to buy the card. It's a lot of money, but I don't smoke or drink anymore so this is my only vice. They should call it the L'Oreal card, because I'm worth it.

 

[milesvw]

Another interesting option may be to design a single slot cooler for the 3050 6GB (although the displayport adapter is on slot 2, so probably not possible to make it 1 slot).

If you can remove the port . . . But yes that raises the barrier to entry.

 

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[milesvw]

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[Gingerbeer]

Here is what I could glean from online, but this is all a bit flaky as it is difficult to get good numbers:

Timespy:

• RTX 3050 6GB at 70w = 5000
• A2000 at 70w = 6000
• Estimated 2000e = 6500
• 4060M at 70w = 7500
• 2000 Ada at 70w = 8500
• 4060M at 90W = 9000
• 4060 LP non M (2 slot) at 115w = 10,000
• 4000 Ada SFF (2 slot) at 70w = 10-11000

Keep in mind the two in orange require custom drivers, but are single slot.

The 2000e shown in red is just an estimate from me as to the performance of the RTX 2000e based on what I could find online - there are no actual results in the Timespy database yet. I took about 75% performance of the 2000 Ada.

The others are double-slot, but obviously the two Ada models and the A2000 can be modified with a N3rdware cooler.

If you need a single slot card for the MS-01:

• A2000 6GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for < 300 euros (used card)
• A2000 12GB with n3rdware cooler can be had for <380 euros (used card)
• 2000e Ada can be had for about 600-650 euroes (new card)
• 2000 Ada with n3rdware cooler can be had for about 700 euros (new) - I would guess you will have to underclock and power limit it to about 60w, so maybe lose 10-15% performance? Not sure whether it will end up being more like a 2000e, or a touch better?

I know this is all a bit of a mess. Personally a used A2000 still looks like the best deal to me. I picked one up for < 200 euros a while back. I did then fry it. I have now fried 2. However, I had a lot of fun power modding them and doing all sorts of mean things to them. Great little cards.

Another interesting option may be to design a single slot cooler for the 3050 6GB (although the displayport adapter is on slot 2, so probably not possible to make it 1 slot).

The 4000 SFF easily out paces my 4060LP by 10-15%, in my tests anyway. Although this is on my MS-A1 over Oculink pcie 4.0 x4 - which really doesn't seem to hold either of them back, despite the apparent bandwidth limitations.

I could compare them on the MS-01 but it'd mean pulling it out of the chassis and messing around with external power for the 4060. I'm just not feeling it right now

 

[Gingerbeer]

I ordered an RTX 4000 SFF single slot cooler from N3rdware last night.

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