PPL - Performance Per Liter, do you SFF?

confusis

John Morrison. Founder and Team Leader of SFF.N
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My poor DeskMini. No hardware changes from my previous entries, just overclocking;

(i7-8700, Z370 Deskmini, GTX1060 6GB)

(3879.7*2073)/3.5 = 2,297,890 points. (EDIT: corrected this to match the thousandths volume rule)

 

VegetableStu

Shrink Ray Wielder
Aug 18, 2016
1,949
2,619
I'm already guessing theoretical scores of my next upgrade, and I fear the day it fruitions and having to answer to this thread afterwards


EDIT: fine fine I'll bench my current setup. doing one now because sunday why not

also holy heck the stock fans on my 1060 is the loudest thing in my PC Q_Q

EDITx2: dammit forgot screenshots ,_, one more run

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Results:

Case:
  • Kimera Cerberus C11U
  • 319mm x 172mm x 358mm (19.643L rounded up)
CPU:
i7 6800K overclocked(?)
  • 3748 MHz (BCLK 125 x 30 multiplier) all core
  • 1.3-something volts
  • RAM: 8GB x4 3000MHz 15-17-17-35 1.3V
GPU:
Palit GTX 1060 6GB gen 1
  • no overclocks, Haven says 1900+ MHz core 4000+ Mhz memory
  • fan at 80%-ish, max temp 71c (I don't have an ambient reading, sorry ,_,)
  • Unigene Haven Benchmark starts after GPU has saturated with heat from looping demo state (usually one entire run actually ._.)
Scoring:
  • CPU-Z Multicore: 3383.4
  • Heaven Extreme: 2134
  • Case Volume: 19.65L (rounded up 2DP)
  • Total score: 3383.4*2134/19.65 = 367438.96 (rounded down 2DP)
Pudding:


(okay the wideangle pano on my phone turned out kinda crappy, but yeah I hope that's proof enough for now ,_,)
 
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JosephEK

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Mar 6, 2017
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I'm using an ATX tower right now. I'm a bit too poor to break into SFF as it feels quite expensive. I will give it a shot possibly once my i5 3450 fails/ becomes too slow for my games.
One thing I wanted to ask though is why use performance per Liter?
What about (Power) Consumption Per Liter?

Or why not have it be a triangle pie chart between Volume, Performance and Consumption.
 

confusis

John Morrison. Founder and Team Leader of SFF.N
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I'm using an ATX tower right now. I'm a bit too poor to break into SFF as it feels quite expensive. I will give it a shot possibly once my i5 3450 fails/ becomes too slow for my games.
One thing I wanted to ask though is why use performance per Liter?
What about (Power) Consumption Per Liter?

Or why not have it be a triangle pie chart between Volume, Performance and Consumption.

Because performance per litre doesn't need any external tools to measure - whereas accurate wattage means everyone would need a kill-a-watt :)
 
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RimsOnAToaster

Minimal Tinkerer
Jul 22, 2018
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EDITS: I tried to make the images display more cleanly. I failed miserably.

When I saw @confusis's article about this thread, I knew I had to throw my hat into the ring. I made an account and everything this afternoon and began the benchmarking process (with some hiccups).

System Components and Dimensions (in cubic inches)

  1. Apple 13" retina MacBook Pro (i5-4278u, 16GB 1600Mhz DDR3): 0.71 • 12.35 • 8.62
  2. Apple 85 watt MagSafe 2 Power Brick: 1.125 • 3.125 • 3.125
  3. Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1070 Gaming Box: 8.34 • 3.77 • 6.37

System volume
  • Laptop: 75.584 cu. in.
  • eGPU: 200.284 cu. in.
  • Brick: 10.986 cu. in.
  • Total: 286.854 cu. in. = 4.701 L

Testing methods
  • Do note that because CPU-Z and GPU-Z are not available for macOS, I had to substitute in alternative utilities, namely Intel's MacCPUID, CUDA-Z, and GeekBench 3 for the CPU benchmark. In the actual performance per liter calculation, I used the median CPU-Z score for my MacBook's processor from CPU-Z Validator's database, since it was lower than the average score.
  • The eGPU is connected to the MacBook using a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter and a Thunderbolt 2 cable, which is equivalent to a 2-lane PCIe connection. As you might have guessed, this bottlenecks the graphics card's performance.
Results
  • Setup verification photo:
  • Benchmark Scores Screenshot (see testing methods for clarification):
  • (1860 • 2703) ÷ 4.701L = 1069470.325

Conclusion
I don't know if the community will accept this score or not, but I certainly hope so. If anybody has recommendations, questions, or comments for me, please shoot them my way!
This may be an extremely unorthodox setup compared to what folks here are used to, but the volume of the system compares extremely favorably to desktop-class SFF builds and has the performance to match, which i think is pretty cool.
 
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el01

King of Cable Management
Jun 4, 2018
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Rules to enter
  • Picture of actual PC
  • Volume calculated with exterior dimensions of case WITH power brick(s)
  • CPU-Z / GPU-Z screenshots obligatory, see post #6
  • CPU-Z must be run on "Benchmark" and validation link saved with your username
  • GPU-Z must be on the first tab when doing screenshot with a dedicated GPU
  • Heaven Benchmark on "Extreme" preset
  • PPL is calculated by (CPU-Z Multi Thread score * Heaven Benchmark score)/Build Volume rounded to nearest thousand.
  • This is a friendly competition, keep it clean and civil

Leaderboard (PPL - Username - CPU - GPU - (CPUZMT*Heaven)/Volume - Post #
  1. 2297890 - confusis - i7 8700 - GTX 1060 6GB - (3879.7*2073)/3.5 - Post #121
  2. 2280611 - GermanDrifter97 - R7 1700 - GTX 1080 - (4606.6*3317)/6.7 - Post #102
  3. 2139513 - rfarmer - i7 8700K - GTX 1070 - (4520*3092)/6.7 - Post #74
  4. 1968770 - ZMan - i7 7700K - GTX 1070 - (2533*2938)/3.78 - Post #114
  5. 1481282 - Testifier - i7 7800X - GTX 1080 Ti SLI - (3297.8*4887)/10.88 - #33
  6. 1206206 - Freeks - R5 1600 - GTX 1080 - (3151.7*3100)/8,1 - Post #48
  7. 1185221 - TheHIg - R5 2600- GTX 1060 6G - (3388*2050)/5.86 - Post #56
  8. 1153142 - firewolfy - i7 6700K - GTX 1070 - (2655*2910)/6.7 - Post #57
  9. 983850 - axm - i7 6700K - GTX 1080 Ti - (2585.3*4795)/12.6
  10. 886555 - theGryphon - R7 1800X - GTX 1050 Ti - (4749.4*1232)/6.6 - Post #26
  11. 561911 - Curiosity - i5 3570k - GTX 1060 6GB - (1441.7*1598)/4.11 - Post #7
  12. 410884 - cstein08 - i5 2320 - GTX 970 - (1211*1537)/4.53 - Post #51
  13. 402835 - Frazhna - i5 4690 - GTX 1050 2G - (1471.9*1092)/3.99 - Post #81
  14. 400610 - Duality92 - i5 7300U ES - Intel HD Graphics - (1051.6*240)/0.63 - Post #6
  15. 211909 - jmarin - R5 2400G - GTX 1050 Ti - (2399*1181)/13.37 - Post #37

Top CPU score : theGryphon - 4749.4 - Ryzen 7 1800X
Top GPU score : Testifier - 4887 - GTX 1080 Ti
Lowest volume : Duality92 - 0.63L - ECS Liva Z Plus
Do janky solutions such as taking apart a laptop count?
 

GermanDrifter97

Trash Compacter
May 25, 2018
49
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@confusis Got You :p

CPU-OC:
multiplier 38
Vcore +0.08V
SOC voltage +0.08V
CPU-Z Bench: 4574.9

GPU-OC:
TDP 105%
Core Clock +150MHz
Memory Clock +300MHz
Heaven Bench: 3382



https://valid.x86.fr/m1ag4l

(4574.9 * 3382) / 6.7 = 2309300


Probably not going to be a 24/7 setup because of my unstable mainboard, but just for the sake of first place I wanted to risk it ;)
 
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