Production No more sandwich. W19. Up to 360AIO and custom loop. Up to full size 3-slot gpu. DDC pump. Ready for uncompromise watercooled in 10.5L console case.
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I researched AIOs a bit and while I could find a few that can fit (height wise), I couldn't find up-to-date reviews and don't trust them to cool current/next gen CPUs.
Only one I trust is Alphacool Eisbaer LT 240, because it's using a standard pump and full copper radiator (instead of alu). But some people have raised concern about it being too weak for full loop, others said it's fine...
For custom loop, apart from Anthe reservoir I found only 1 thing that can fit: https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/24196
If somebody knows a Barrow/Bykski reservoir with pump mount that can fit, please let me know.
This https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/25576 can fit, if those little potrusions on the side get cut off (62mm then instead of 67.9mm)
I researched AIOs a bit and while I could find a few that can fit (height wise), I couldn't find up-to-date reviews and don't trust them to cool current/next gen CPUs.
Only one I trust is Alphacool Eisbaer LT 240, because it's using a standard pump and full copper radiator (instead of alu). But some people have raised concern about it being too weak for full loop, others said it's fine...
For custom loop, apart from Anthe reservoir I found only 1 thing that can fit: https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/24196
If somebody knows a Barrow/Bykski reservoir with pump mount that can fit, please let me know.
This https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/25576 can fit, if those little potrusions on the side get cut off (62mm then instead of 67.9mm)
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Delivery will begin in mid-late February. The reservoir and other accessories, including color panels, HDD bracket, standoff etc., will be available after the second round of funding, as all funds raised have been spent on production. I hope your reviews and videos on reddit will help to attract more buyers.
So these are the 2 locations for SSD? I assume each location takes 2 SSDs?
If so, what is the height distance between them (for custom cables with custom SATA power spacing)?
Also the lower SSD is above the mainboard, around where the 24PIN connects. Any space issues there?
Oh, sorry, that was the screenshot bug. The only place for 4x2.5" is near PSU. But it is interesting idea for placing 2.5" under central holder. I guess i use it for W19 2.1. Everything is complicated by the fact that there are located powerful magnets for attaching the side cover
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I think you can use any standart AIO with thikness rad till 28mm and pump height up to 47.9mm
Pump height of 47.9mm is where things get difficult. @Cheezo also keep in mind the tube length of an AIO and routing them.
From my (fairly quick) research on AIOs I found a few that fit in the 47.9mm height limit.
I DID NOT CHECK RAD THICKENSS OR ANYTHING ELSE. ALL AIOs CHECKED FOR AM4 SOCKET (check to see if they work on your socket too)
1) https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...coolers/masterliquid-lite-240/#specifications
2) https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...rs/masterliquid-ml240l-v2-rgb/#specifications
3) https://www.lc-power.com/produkte/cpu-kuehler/lc-cc-240-lico/
4) https://www.deepcool.com/de/product/LiquidCooler/2019-05/547_11049.shtml
5) https://www.xilence.net/de/water-coolers/140
6) https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/navis-rgb-240/
7) https://www.antec.com/product/cooling/k240-rgb
8) https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/22106
9) https://www.phanteks.com/Glacier-One-MP.html
As I said in a post before, some of them are in the market for a very long time and I don't know if I want to trust them to still cool todays high-end CPUs. Though TDP is TDP, no matter if 65W in 2010 or 2022, right??
One more thing: Even if the pump fits within 47.9mm, you might need to angle the fittings on the pump upwards to route the tubes and this is when you still might end up >47.9mm because of the tube.
If I needed to choose one of them, I'd go with 8) and see if it fits on my mainboard and into the case. The reasons are:
- the good quality pump/block-combo (also available as standalone). OptimumTech has done a lot of custom loops with it and it can handle them
- all copper everything
- if you're tired of AIO, want to go custom, just take out the tubes (and fittings if you want to change tube size) and do whatever you want from there
From my (fairly quick) research on AIOs I found a few that fit in the 47.9mm height limit.
I DID NOT CHECK RAD THICKENSS OR ANYTHING ELSE. ALL AIOs CHECKED FOR AM4 SOCKET (check to see if they work on your socket too)
1) https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...coolers/masterliquid-lite-240/#specifications
2) https://www.coolermaster.com/catalo...rs/masterliquid-ml240l-v2-rgb/#specifications
3) https://www.lc-power.com/produkte/cpu-kuehler/lc-cc-240-lico/
4) https://www.deepcool.com/de/product/LiquidCooler/2019-05/547_11049.shtml
5) https://www.xilence.net/de/water-coolers/140
6) https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/navis-rgb-240/
7) https://www.antec.com/product/cooling/k240-rgb
8) https://www.alphacool.com/detail/index/sArticle/22106
9) https://www.phanteks.com/Glacier-One-MP.html
As I said in a post before, some of them are in the market for a very long time and I don't know if I want to trust them to still cool todays high-end CPUs. Though TDP is TDP, no matter if 65W in 2010 or 2022, right??
One more thing: Even if the pump fits within 47.9mm, you might need to angle the fittings on the pump upwards to route the tubes and this is when you still might end up >47.9mm because of the tube.
If I needed to choose one of them, I'd go with 8) and see if it fits on my mainboard and into the case. The reasons are:
- the good quality pump/block-combo (also available as standalone). OptimumTech has done a lot of custom loops with it and it can handle them
- all copper everything
- if you're tired of AIO, want to go custom, just take out the tubes (and fittings if you want to change tube size) and do whatever you want from there
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True, I added the cheapest model (100EUR over here) of their lineup as number 9). Crazy slim profile from the looks, couldnt find exact dimensions.
I just didn't look at every AIO and also had a certain price limit in mind.
Not sure what's the difference to the next model but that is already a 150EUR and this is money that I'd rather spend on a custom loop.
Just wondering why 320 is max GPU length when the case is 356mm? I know it's probably outer dimensions + there's the steel frame but what about the remaining ~30mm?
In principle, if you show miracles of dexterity, perhaps you can insert a larger card. 320 is the distance between the protruding edges of the sheet metal, which allows you to insert the card without difficulty
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haha, I understand. Thanks for the info. I was asking because I might need exactly that remaining space for watercooling
At the moment I'm pretty much settled on going custom loop...
Attention if you are shopping parts: I think it's not possible to use a 45mm thick rad with a 3090FE.
Actually, any 45mm rad that does NOT have ports at the bottom of the watertank can not work, no matter the GPU.
Your best options for "thick" rads are reduced to the following:
- xspc ex240 [275 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED (probably not worth it anyway https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/13/xspc-ex-360-radiator-review/5/)
- xspc ex240 multiport [280 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED (probably not worth it anyway https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/13/xspc-ex-360-radiator-review/5/)
- ek coolstream pe 240 [280 x 130 x 40mm] 40mm will be crazy tight, maybe slightly bending the sidepanel
45mm rad needs 15mm fans as we know. There are no angled fittings with <15mm, Koolance is shortest with 20 or something.
And the left port at the bottom of this Alphacool rad is 12mm away from the 3090 (accounted for 11mm of space between case and GPU for power connector)
Actually, any 45mm rad that does NOT have ports at the bottom of the watertank can not work, no matter the GPU.
Your best options for "thick" rads are reduced to the following:
- xspc ex240 [275 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED (probably not worth it anyway https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/13/xspc-ex-360-radiator-review/5/)
- xspc ex240 multiport [280 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED (probably not worth it anyway https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/13/xspc-ex-360-radiator-review/5/)
- ek coolstream pe 240 [280 x 130 x 40mm] 40mm will be crazy tight, maybe slightly bending the sidepanel
45mm rad needs 15mm fans as we know. There are no angled fittings with <15mm, Koolance is shortest with 20 or something.
And the left port at the bottom of this Alphacool rad is 12mm away from the 3090 (accounted for 11mm of space between case and GPU for power connector)
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Another one http://www.coolgate.net/radiators_360HD.htmAttention if you are shopping parts: I think it's not possible to use a 45mm thick rad with a 3090FE.
Actually, any 45mm rad that does NOT have ports at the bottom of the watertank can not work, no matter the GPU.
Your best options for "thick" rads are reduced to the following:
- xspc ex240 [275 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED
- xspc ex240 multiport [280 x 121 x 35.5mm] DISCONTINUED
- ek coolstream pe 240 [280 x 130 x 40mm] 40mm will be crazy tight, maybe slightly bending the sidepanel
45mm rad needs 15mm fans as we know. There are no angled fittings with <15mm, Koolance is shortest with 20 or something.
And the left port at the bottom of this Alphacool rad is 12mm away from the 3090 (accounted for 11mm of space between case and GPU for power connector)
Something go wrong with your model. Yes, the standard 90-degree fittings don't fit, but the micro-fittings or standart barbed fitting or elbow fittings with spacers is fine. Here is a drawing based on real CAD:
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