Lian Li/DAN A4-H2O
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Got it. The reason why I was confused is that there is no mention of the silver being anodized on any of the marketing material, only the black one.
Can someone help me make sense of these vary different CPU temps I keep seeing for the 12700k. Optimum Tech and Chris Flannigan got about 99deg with throttling, with Chris using Aida64. But then Gear Seekers got about 77deg using Aida64 as well?
Is it the tube routing? other factors?
Is it the tube routing? other factors?
There's a number of things that could cause that. The main one being with Optimum Tech's review he set his fans to 1300RPM while anyone else would just set it to auto and it would run up to 2000RPM
I was not able to do it with my EKWB version and I tried it. .
Unlike other shops like Caseking, Newegg is just a marketplace like Amazon. LianLi has full controll on everything showing up there. So yes should be valid.
will it result in much higher thermals for the motherboard or will it be acceptable ?I would do it like this:
By the end of March you should have it
Hopefully it's sooner rather than later. If not, with any luck Machines & More will do a bunch of tests by then so we know the optimal set-up
Let's have a little thought experiment - because of that thermal issue: In theory, would it be possible to put a 280 mm radiator into where normally the GPU would live? Like the Alphacool NexXxos 280 (which should be identical to the one being used in the Aurora Pro 280 "open" AIO) .. its 314 x 143 x 30, full copper. And then, because we're Rizer-ing anyway, put the GPU on top.
That'd mean maybe a smaller / less beefy GPU, but if the purpose of the case was "portable SFF Workstation", the GPU is not so much the limiting factor (esp. when all those "pro" GPU options are basically ultra-slim, low-profile). But also "lesser" consumer-oriented GPUs, like the RX 6600 XT or GTX 3060, should work.
Not to forget about the GPU connectors (DP / HDMI): One would have to attach them before-hand, maybe even use a "opposite" (male to female) adapter to stay flexible.
Well, its just a thought experiment. Would have to test it IRL
cu, w0lf.
That'd mean maybe a smaller / less beefy GPU, but if the purpose of the case was "portable SFF Workstation", the GPU is not so much the limiting factor (esp. when all those "pro" GPU options are basically ultra-slim, low-profile). But also "lesser" consumer-oriented GPUs, like the RX 6600 XT or GTX 3060, should work.
Not to forget about the GPU connectors (DP / HDMI): One would have to attach them before-hand, maybe even use a "opposite" (male to female) adapter to stay flexible.
Well, its just a thought experiment. Would have to test it IRL
cu, w0lf.
isnt that basically what someone did with their T1? Turning it effectively into T1 V2 reference haha.Let's have a little thought experiment - because of that thermal issue: In theory, would it be possible to put a 280 mm radiator into where normally the GPU would live? Like the Alphacool NexXxos 280 (which should be identical to the one being used in the Aurora Pro 280 "open" AIO) .. its 314 x 143 x 30, full copper. And then, because we're Rizer-ing anyway, put the GPU on top.
That'd mean maybe a smaller / less beefy GPU, but if the purpose of the case was "portable SFF Workstation", the GPU is not so much the limiting factor (esp. when all those "pro" GPU options are basically ultra-slim, low-profile). But also "lesser" consumer-oriented GPUs, like the RX 6600 XT or GTX 3060, should work.
Not to forget about the GPU connectors (DP / HDMI): One would have to attach them before-hand, maybe even use a "opposite" (male to female) adapter to stay flexible.
Well, its just a thought experiment. Would have to test it IRL
cu, w0lf.
This depends on your GPU. I’ve tested both setups with the Meshlicious.
Basically you have a positive pressure system when you make them intakes. The intake fans would help the CPU, however, the GPU will start sucking in its own hot exhaust. Plus you are now fighting the heat of the PSU as well.
Put simply, switching to exhaust on the Mesh dropped my GPU by about 10C while raising my CPU 3C. Adding an exhaust on my MI-6 dropped my GPU about 10C as well.
Thanks for the research
What thermal issues?
The stock fan should work with the Ryzen 2600. But there are very well prices 240 AIO on the market. You do not need a 150€ RGB premium AIO. In Europe you can get a entry level 240 AIO for 55€ https://geizhals.de/cooler-master-m...w-d24m-a20pw-r1-a1703222.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
Also on Ebay you can get used ones very cheap.
Maybe on these the pump or fans are not that silent, but you can adjust these in UEFI. Set pump speed to 60-80% and for you CPU fans @ 800-1000rpm should be more than fine with very good temperatures.
The one hinted at in the reviews with the higher-tier Alder Lake CPUs [1] + big fat GPUs.
I'm the opposite: I need a high-tier CPU, because workstation, but couldnt care less about a fancy gaming system, so GPU can be something "itx-y" (and preferably AMD, cause nVidia on Linux + KDE .. ahahaha).
My first thought was: Ok, no 12900k. Meh. *researches application benchmarks about 12700k, 5950X etc. all over again*
Next: Oh, wait, you dont need one of those beefy GPUs anyways.
Then: Wait - what would happen if I do a custom loop with two rads ..? One in the top, one sitting in the half on the other side thats not occupied, because <= 180 mm GPU? .. but wouldnt that be a bit of a space issue ..?
Hence the glorious idea of going weird
On an after-thought: Hm, still could go down that road!!23$DRÖLFZIG! 280 mm rad on the side AND a 120 (or 92) mm plus the GPU on top
Also to think about: Weight issues? Nah. Most of the "usable" AND easily available cases are more like: Starting at 3.7 kg ON A LUCKY DAY. So I'm all good with a lil bit of extra weight (eg. copper + brass).
cu, w0lf.
[1] TBF: all the other SFF cases seem to show similar issues, eg. the Meshlicious and even NR200. Reddit conversations hinted about that Intel PR just wanted to look beefier on paper, and set the upper CPU limit to "unlimited" [2], hence the 241w peak. Hence one could set more healthly limits and still not feel any kind of difference.
[2] Afterthought: Doesnt that "unlimited" ring familiar? Sounds like the EVGA + Amazon "new world" issue.
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