Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Increase volume from 9.8L to 10.5L to support MSI Suprim X 30XX?

  • Yes, worth the trade off to be more compatible with components

    Votes: 116 24.7%
  • No, not worth it b/c it is not better than the ROG 30XX, which fits now at <10L

    Votes: 353 75.3%

  • Total voters
    469

Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
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Thank you for the update,

I was hoping you could explain the GPU clearance difference between the current model and the upcoming model.

How much space is behind the mobo to the mesh side panel?

Thank you
-Leo

The minimum space between GPU fans and Steel Mesh Side Panel is 4mm, if you space the GPU away from the Side Panel, obvious you get more clearance.
 

PKAWA

Master of Cramming
May 27, 2020
490
488

2021-05-25: T1 V1.5 Progress​

Since there are some major changes, this update will be called V1.5.

Confirmed Update:
- Still less than 10L
- T1 V1.5 Unibody Front edition, USD160-210, available in US, UK, AU, DE, CN *only
- T1 V1.5 Two Tone Front edition, USD220-260, availability similar to V1.1
- Support both ROG 30XX and MSI Gaming X Trio 30XX
- Add PCIe 4.0 Riser option
- Support Deep Mini-ITX Support (ROMED4ID-2T)
- Support 46mm under the mobo for Radiator + Fan:
  • 20.5mm TX240 radiator + *dual 25mm thick fans
  • 27 or 30mm thick radiator + *dual 15mm slim fans
  • 27 or 30mm thick radiator + *single 25mm thick fan and single 15mm fan
- Support *dual TX240 240mm radiator setup, with 48mm CPU cooler height left for Pump & Res CPU Block
- Support 1.25, 1.50, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.50, 2.75, 3, 3.25 GPU Slots for more GPU vs CPU space allocation possibilities
- Add *new Tempered Glass Air Flow Side Panel
- Add Vertical Kit Accessory option
- Add Handle Kit Accessory option
- Official Instruction Manual and Assembly Video (YouTube)
- Remove T1 SFX Power Supply Flip Bracket (doesn't make meaningful difference in thermals)

Pending Update:
- Collapsible or Removable Headphone Stand
- Aluminum Mesh Side Panels
- NCASE M1 Layout Kit (include Notuca C14S Air Cooler Kit)
- Mini-DTX Support (Asus Crosshair VIII Impact, requires NCASE M1 Layout Kit)
- Freeflow Louvre Side Panels.
- EDC Slim Backpack Kit

How does it compare to T1 V1.1 *IMO
- For People looking for a cheaper option
- For People looking for air cooled setup without riser (5950X on Noctua C14S + 3080TI)
- For People looking for ROG 30XX and MSI Gaming X Trio 30XX support

Current *estimated release date mid August 2021 (release dates are always subject to change due to human malware & other uncertainties).
Can't wait to order one via your priority invitation mail.
 

NurseLeo

Caliper Novice
Jul 7, 2020
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The minimum space between GPU fans and Steel Mesh Side Panel is 4mm, if you space the GPU away from the Side Panel, obvious you get more clearance.
Hi Wahaha360, thanks for your reply but I was asking if the gpu compartment is getting any additional clearance? As shown here, is the marked space changing?
 

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DrHudacris

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Jul 20, 2019
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Hi Wahaha360, thanks for your reply but I was asking if the gpu compartment is getting any additional clearance? As shown here, is the marked space changing?
Based on slot spacing, I would posit that space can be adjusted anywhere from 25mm to 65mm.
 

KamikazePlatypus

Caliper Novice
Aug 13, 2018
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2021-05-25: T1 V1.5 Progress​

Since there are some major changes, this update will be called V1.5.

Confirmed Update:
- Still less than 10L
- T1 V1.5 Unibody Front edition, USD160-210, available in US, UK, AU, DE, CN *only
- T1 V1.5 Two Tone Front edition, USD220-260, availability similar to V1.1
- Support both ROG 30XX and MSI Gaming X Trio 30XX
- Add PCIe 4.0 Riser option
- Support Deep Mini-ITX Support (ROMED4ID-2T)
- Support 46mm under the mobo for Radiator + Fan:
  • 20.5mm TX240 radiator + *dual 25mm thick fans
  • 27 or 30mm thick radiator + *dual 15mm slim fans
  • 27 or 30mm thick radiator + *single 25mm thick fan and single 15mm fan
- Support *dual TX240 240mm radiator setup, with 48mm CPU cooler height left for Pump & Res CPU Block
- Support 1.25, 1.50, 1.75, 2, 2.25, 2.50, 2.75, 3, 3.25 GPU Slots for more GPU vs CPU space allocation possibilities
- Add *new Tempered Glass Air Flow Side Panel
- Add Vertical Kit Accessory option
- Add Handle Kit Accessory option
- Official Instruction Manual and Assembly Video (YouTube)
- Remove T1 SFX Power Supply Flip Bracket (doesn't make meaningful difference in thermals)

Pending Update:
- Collapsible or Removable Headphone Stand
- Aluminum Mesh Side Panels
- NCASE M1 Layout Kit (include Notuca C14S Air Cooler Kit)
- Mini-DTX Support (Asus Crosshair VIII Impact, requires NCASE M1 Layout Kit)
- Freeflow Louvre Side Panels.
- EDC Slim Backpack Kit

How does it compare to T1 V1.1 *IMO
- For People looking for a cheaper option
- For People looking for air cooled setup without riser (5950X on Noctua C14S + 3080TI)
- For People looking for ROG 30XX and MSI Gaming X Trio 30XX support

Current *estimated release date mid August 2021 (release dates are always subject to change due to human malware & other uncertainties).
Also, you mentioned 5950X on Noctua C14S + 3080TI. Have you done or plan on testing this setup to compare performance and thermals with the traditional EK 240mm AIO + aircooled 3080/80Ti/90 setup? Myself and I'm sure others are planning the same build, so it would be nice to know which option is better.
 

tinyitx

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- Add *new Tempered Glass Air Flow Side Panel


Pending Update:
- NCASE M1 Layout Kit (include Notuca C14S Air Cooler Kit)
2 questions regarding the above:-

a. can you explain in a little bit more details about this air flow TG side panel? Do you mean, the TG side panel has perforations to assist air flow?

b. with this M1 Layout Kit installed, what is the max clearance for a tower air cooler? C14S, with the fan on top, is 142mm tall. So, 142mm has to be the minimum?
 
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descuder

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May 27, 2021
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Hey, really excited about the 1.5 update post! Are there any hard numbers yet for CPU / GPU height clearance at each GPU slot increment (1.25 - 3.25)?
 

Wahaha360

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can you share why? if it's available for CN can I sneak in for VN?

Testing new shipping method, the shipping company limits to certain countries.

Can Canada be considered part of the US?

We are trying to warehouse in US to ship from US, but it's limited to what the shipping company can offer, and CA is not among our options at the moment.

We were always the crazy neighbor down south, you sure you want to 🤣
 

Wahaha360

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Are you still doing priority for people who cancelled their early 2021 T1 orders?
yes

Also, you mentioned 5950X on Noctua C14S + 3080TI. Have you done or plan on testing this setup to compare performance and thermals with the traditional EK 240mm AIO + aircooled 3080/80Ti/90 setup? Myself and I'm sure others are planning the same build, so it would be nice to know which option is better.

Check 5950X on Noctua C14S + 3080/3090 in NCASE M1, you can compare to EK 240 no?

It's about air cooling's superior reliability and ease of install, not about pure performance.
 
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Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
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2 questions regarding the above:-

a. can you explain in a little bit more details about this air flow TG side panel? Do you mean, the TG side panel has perforations to assist air flow?

b. with this M1 Layout Kit installed, what is the max clearance for a tower air cooler? C14S, with the fan on top, is 142mm tall. So, 142mm has to be the minimum?

Will share rendering when ready.
 

thelaughingman

SFF Guru
Jul 14, 2018
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Testing new shipping method, the shipping company limits to certain countries.
understood, hope this method will work out. I'm asking more because I prefer the unibody front than the two-tone. just to confirm unibody means a single piece of alumnium right? not just that it's a single colour?
 

ellroy80

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Jun 7, 2020
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Optional. This new TG panel allows airflow, for cooling sake, so the cost really bit crazy because the yield is terrible, right now nearly 1 out 20 will succeed, so imagine breaking twenty glass panels to get one working, this is why is quite expensive.
Thanks wahaha. Just so it's clear for me then, the standard panels will be steel mesh, with the option for TG on one side, and you're looking into making aluminium (mesh?) a possibility?