Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[Gerold]

no offense, but as I said, this exact "hypothesis" was discussed a lot in this thread and also tested.
There is no meaningful difference in temps when you put in 2 fans as pull and one fan as push.
(at least for this case, with a slim rad and the fpi you get with these)
No one is stopping you from doing it though, so what's the point in asking the same question three times in a row?

If you are asking about 4 fans running, two on the bottom, two on the top, then no, and it's unnecessary.

There is no reason to push/pull on a SLIM radiator. And in general the 25mm Fans are more effective and silent!
My suggestion is to use 1 Slim + 1 25mm Fan, or 2 Slim Fans (Will be a bit louder and maybe 2 degrees warmer).

The push pull has effect with ticker radiators. This is a 27mm, probably the core will be something like 19/20mm, 16FPI. Even the F12 seems overkill to me! ?

 

[gwertheim]

no offense, but as I said, this exact "hypothesis" was discussed a lot in this thread and also tested.
There is no meaningful difference in temps when you put in 2 fans as pull and one fan as push.
(at least for this case, with a slim rad and the fpi you get with these)
No one stopping you from doing it though, so what's the point in asking the same question three times in a row?

I agree, if your talking about 1 or 2 degrees, you are wasting your time and being picky about something which in the grand scheme of things doesn't really matter or can be within margin of error.

If you put two fans beside each other as one push and the other one pull, you are sending that air in a circle, it comes out of one fan and goes into another. You are just moving hot air around. That's why intake and exhaust are on the other side of the case and not beside each other.

 

[theexplainer]

This what I was asking about earlier. I spent last night looking for it in a "previous post" as I was told. I typed in "fan" and went through 10 pages of everything that mentioned the word fan. I didn't find anything. That was a waste of time. So you couldn't screw both 15mm fans in? I didn't fully understand you. It's like you used google translate.

I did not use google translate, but sorry, let me elaborate further - I wasn't able to screw the fans in because I didn't have screws that would fit. Simply because I forgot to order some (that's why I am still waiting for them to arrive, just ordered those yesterday). The only screws I had around were ment to mount 25mm fans, not 15mm fans ^^

Right now the 15mm fans are being hold in place just by being pressed against the radiator by the bottom panel of the case. (I guess I forgot to mention this before, fixed that now)

I do think if I had them screwed in like they are in the Photo, the screws would at least scratch at the top/bottom panel of the case (whichever it is for you), if the screws would fit there at all. There should be no issue screwing in one 15mm fan next to the 25mm fan on top of the radiator, right below the motherboard, though.

 

[Goatee]

I did not use google translate, but sorry, let me elaborate further - I wasn't able to screw the fans in because I didn't have screws that would fit. Simply because I forgot to order some (that's why I am still waiting for them to arrive, just ordered those yesterday). The only screws I had around were ment to mount 25mm fans, not 15mm fans ^^

Right now the 15mm fans are being hold in place just by being pressed against the radiator by the bottom panel of the case. (I guess I forgot to mention this before, fixed that now)

I do think if I had them screwed in like they are in the Photo, the screws would at least scratch at the top/bottom panel of the case (whichever it is for you), if the screws would fit there at all. There should be no issue screwing in one 15mm fan next to the 25mm fan on top of the radiator, right below the motherboard, though.

If the thread is the full length of the screw then you can just cut it down by 10mm with a hacksaw.

 

[BeachBoy]

I did not use google translate, but sorry, let me elaborate further - I wasn't able to screw the fans in because I didn't have screws that would fit. Simply because I forgot to order some (that's why I am still waiting for them to arrive, just ordered those yesterday). The only screws I had around were ment to mount 25mm fans, not 15mm fans ^^

Right now the 15mm fans are being hold in place just by being pressed against the radiator by the bottom panel of the case. (I guess I forgot to mention this before, fixed that now)

I do think if I had them screwed in like they are in the Photo, the screws would at least scratch at the top/bottom panel of the case (whichever it is for you), if the screws would fit there at all. There should be no issue screwing in one 15mm fan next to the 25mm fan on top of the radiator, right below the motherboard, though.

Now "theexplainer" nickname makes sense

 

[integer]

@fabio has fit dual GPUs in the T1, physically fitting is not the issue; you can make it happen.

wow, incredible build. thank you

How do you connect two cards with that? You'll need a x8x8 bifurcation riser. Something like https://peine-braun.net/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=65_59

Nice. was thinking a bifcurcator would be needed Just need to make sure mobo supports 8x8 config. Leaning towards a 3900/3950x system with a vGPU or if cant get that working then regular GPU passthru. This is for homelab, vm's etc, but if I can get VDI working then may use as primary.

 

[Nat244]

wheres the link to buy this case or is it not ready yet

 

[Tiddles]

wheres the link to buy this case or is it not ready yet

First line in the first post

 

[Tiddles]

The L12S is a dream when it comes to silence, but BR is no slouch either as long as you use Noctuas.

I'm pretty confident that the L12S or even the BR with two fans make less noise than the stock coolers.
When in "idle mode" you could even stop the fans with custom fan curves and make the system pretty much inaudible - (when browsing or other non demanding tasks).
Should make less noise than a pump running constantly (at least in regards to a 65W CPU).

I ended up going with the L12S and the noise reduction is AMAZING. Currently folding@home in quiet delight

Thanks for the advice!

 

[Luke NK]

As I was expecting, NO IMPROVEMENT at all.

I've got exactly the same temp than without a fan on the 120rad. There is physically no space to let the fan intake air!

Have you tried setting all fans as exhaust? Both the fans from the 240 rad and the 120, maybe negative pressure works better with this setup.

It would probably also need to work in pull mode with the fan against the side panel

 

[fabio]

Have you tried setting all fans as exhaust? Both the fans from the 240 rad and the 120, maybe negative pressure works better with this setup.

It would probably also need to work in pull mode with the fan against the side panel

WIth the fittings I am using I cannot have the fan on the side panel unfortunately. But in that case intaking will be the best option, and the top fans exhausting.

 

[Brude27]

A botched paint job ate a day from me on this project, but here are some progress shots on my G12 mod:

Sandblasting - Check!

Paint job (take two) - Check!

T1 Reassembly - Check!

I'll grab some better glamour shots later, but this is all I could muster tonight. I'm beat!

The good new is the panels go on without any issue. I don't even think the tubing is touching, so this was a major success! Note the use of a slim 92mm fan on the G12 bracket, though. I don't think a normal fan would allow the side panels to close nicely.

I was going to make some custom cables for this, but I found out my crimping tool doesn't work with PC terminals. That discovery was a bit disappointing, as this would've been my first attempt at custom cables. Instead, I decided to finally use my J-HACK M2427, and it's an impressively simple device. I recommend if you struggle finding a place to tuck your 24 pin cable into that you should definitely check this thing out here.

See this post for why I edited the strike-through.

My next step is tweaking the fans, and enjoying the silence! I'll post results here once I get around to dialing everything in! So far the H55 is dead quiet, which is a pleasant surprise from the H60.

 

[DrHudacris]

wheres the link to buy this case or is it not ready yet

Just as I predicted! Even the most perfect system will have people literally ignore the all caps thread title and face roll a question that has been asked so much, they add up to 250 pages of the thread itself.

 

[Speedster]

@Brude27 nice! But get some chromax models of those fans in there!

 

[Truth]

Due to the noted potential 27-28.6mm thickness on the 240-d rgb, I managed to find ONE us seller of the Aeolus ß 12013 RGB and went ahead and bought two of them, this should allow me to fit it with NO bending and without using a full size fan since I'll need the extra room.

 

[Speedster]

Due to the noted potential 27-28.6mm thickness on the 240-d rgb, I managed to find ONE us seller of the Aeolus ß 12013 RGB and went ahead and bought two of them, this should allow me to fit it with NO bending and without using a full size fan since I'll need the extra room.

Those fans have SP of 0.67 mmH2O, not sure you're going to get much air through the rad. For comparison, Noctua A12x15 is 1.53 and the F12 2.61

 

[Truth]

Those fans have SP of 0.67 mmH2O, not sure you're going to get much air through the rad. For comparison, Noctua A12x15 is 1.53 and the F12 2.61

Damnit, thank you. I'm going to cancel and l look again for something else then.

 

[Truth]

Those fans have SP of 0.67 mmH2O, not sure you're going to get much air through the rad. For comparison, Noctua A12x15 is 1.53 and the F12 2.61

What about the SY1212SL12H?, not to go too far off topic, but I'm not familiar w/ 'mmH2O' and given the pertinence of your message I decided to start looking elsewhere for potential alternative slim fans sub 15mm.

 

[fabio]

What about the SY1212SL12H?, not to go too far off topic, but I'm not familiar w/ 'mmH2O' and given the pertinence of your message I decided to start looking elsewhere for potential alternative slim fans sub 15mm.

There isn’t really a good option sub 15. The best slim on radiators are the Scythe KazeFlex slim and the Noctua A12x15.

 

[Gerold]

Noctua Slim or Scythe KazeFlex, there are no other viable slim fans (at least for rads).