+1 for more titanium! I think there a lot of us out there interested in the titanium colorNo, just didn't make Titanium for the latest batch, trying to get more for next batch (not ETA).
+1 for more titanium! I think there a lot of us out there interested in the titanium colorNo, just didn't make Titanium for the latest batch, trying to get more for next batch (not ETA).
Probably because supporting one longer card only increases the volume by a bit under a liter. 9.5L to 10ish.
Supporting 280mm radiators would go from 9.5L to 12.3L, a 25% increase in volume. E.g. Add 2CM to the width, and 4CM to the length. IOW from small space optimized sandwich....to NCase size.
leave it to the EVO in 2022. the Classic (1.1-1.2/1.5) is fine as it is at sub-10LThis change isn't worth it if you're only doing it for a single GPU. If you're doing it for 3 GPUs and additional radiator support, now we're talking.
Ah well, comes down to what everyone says and what Wahaha wants the project to be.
yeah I feel your pain, I thought the EVO could come in the back end of this year and displace the C4 as my case of choice. but alas it's not meant to beI guess I'm at the same point as the people you replied to but my question is more along the lines of:
I'm willing to wait for EVO based on the information I have on it, but now I'm not so sure with this reply. Is it not worth waiting on without this GPU / mobo (I have new components and am not looking to upgrade them right now)? Is this GPU / mobo a proprietary form factor that I would be unlikely to benefit from in a future build?
As the proud owner of a cancelled order, I'd like to ensure I'm able to get a v1.2 if I find out that the EVO is not for me. But I'm so interested in it that I can't make that determination right now. Really really looking forward to more info in it, but it sounds like it's months away yet.
I'm in the same boat and agree with you and would also like to know more about the evo project to make an informed choice.I guess I'm at the same point as the people you replied to but my question is more along the lines of:
I'm willing to wait for EVO based on the information I have on it, but now I'm not so sure with this reply. Is it not worth waiting on without this GPU / mobo (I have new components and am not looking to upgrade them right now)? Is this GPU / mobo a proprietary form factor that I would be unlikely to benefit from in a future build?
As the proud owner of a cancelled order, I'd like to ensure I'm able to get a v1.2 if I find out that the EVO is not for me. But I'm so interested in it that I can't make that determination right now. Really really looking forward to more info in it, but it sounds like it's months away yet.
I have been following this project for some time. I registered to say I am looking forward to the release of the T1.2 as my current video card (PowerColor Red Devil 6800 XT) will not fit in the T1.1- Looking for the smallest and best SFF case that will support Liquid Cooling and a big ass Video card. I see the Evo as more interesting for a small mATX case than for it's flexibility - just my $0.02
I would love to order a T1.1 but I just can't seem to acquire a video card that will fit in it - here's to wishing for the RTX 3080 Ti release!
JUST like me !!!!!!!!!I have been following this project for some time. I registered to say I am looking forward to the release of the T1.2 as my current video card (PowerColor Red Devil 6800 XT) will not fit in the T1.1- Looking for the smallest and best SFF case that will support Liquid Cooling and a big ass Video card. I see the Evo as more interesting for a small mATX case than for it's flexibility - just my $0.02
I would love to order a T1.1 but I just can't seem to acquire a video card that will fit in it - here's to wishing for the RTX 3080 Ti release!
This is exactly the issue with FomD at the moment, in my opinion - too many changes being discussed and thrown out as possibilities, and not enough finalized at any given time.I'm in the same boat and agree with you and would also like to know more about the evo project to make an informed choice.
I completely disagree what I´ve put in bold. I enjoy A LOT the possibility of being a small part of the process. Being able to see how problems arise on production (for the white colour for example) and how the design process goes one direction or another responding to different needs is a very beautiful thing to see, and it´s also the main difference between buying a corsair (or any other brand) case, or a boutique case.This is exactly the issue with FomD at the moment, in my opinion - too many changes being discussed and thrown out as possibilities, and not enough finalized at any given time.
Speaking mainly about the following:
For someone interested in building in any kind of T1 case, they're now caught asking themselves 'will the next version be better?' 'should I just wait?' 'what is even going on?' etc.
- Early 2020: T1 V.1 + P1 (Separate Projects)
- Early 2021: P1 Cancelled & Merged into "T1 EVO", T1 renamed "T1 Classic"
- Early 2021: T1 Classic v1.2 Changes (Dual rad & multi-slot support.)
- Early 2021: T1 Evo Features Brought Over to T1 Classic (Thicker rad support, ROG Strix Support)
- Early 2021: T1 Classic SUPRIM Support Poll
Personally speaking, I think firm targets should be set internally, communicated, and THEN worked towards - for both FormD cases, assuming the EVO still exists.
I question the status of the EVO for the following reasons:
I have all the respect in the world for Wahaha360 and pushing the boundaries of SFF, but I feel like some work needs to be done to create clear, firm plans for these cases internally.
- It's always sounded like vaporware.
- No renders.
- 10-15-20L.
- Horisontal/Vertical at all sizes.
- mITX-DTX-ATX.
- "Insanely expensive" 'transparent aluminum' material.
- Features spilling from EVO into Classic.
- Test batch pushed back to 2022 Q1.
Only once that is done can you properly set expectations and clearly communicate what each project is and is supposed to be.
This poll about the classic changing size just to support 1 GPU just muddies the water even more when it was never necessary.
I completely disagree what I´ve put in bold. I enjoy A LOT the possibility of being a small part of the process. Being able to see how problems arise on production (for the white colour for example) and how the design process goes one direction or another responding to different needs is a very beautiful thing to see, and it´s also the main difference between buying a corsair (or any other brand) case, or a boutique case.
If you want Wahaha to only say that a product is going out when it´s ready 100% without a possibility of opinion, what you are asking is for him to behave like a big company, I see this process very differently, and the only "bad" thing about this process is that you have to be pacient (and enjoy the journey as much as the final product).
In my humble opinion you need to relax, enjoy being part of this beautiful process, buy a case that exists now and suits your needs, and when/if FormD manufactures a case that also suits your needs, then buy it, and enjoy it. Meanwhile this is the place to critique in a constructive way so the product can improve, not the place where the new product gets announced officialy.
Ok undestood.Sorry, I should clarify - I don't dislike the transparency; what I dislike is the constantly shifting specifications, product names, etc.
Running into issues with the E-White T1 - while it did suck for people like me who had ordered one - is totally understandable. Asking for feedback from the community is also desirable.
The main issue is for people planning out builds having things entirely change on them, or announcing things too early. I believe the EVO and Classic T1s have suffered from this.
Set a version number based on a list of changes you want to implement, set a date for release, communicate on any issues up to that release, and follow through. THEN you can worry about the next version number, etc.
Announcing the EVO without renders, saying it transforms, supports horizontal/vertical layouts, MIGHT use transparent metal, and is under multiple NDAs, then bringing over features from it into the current case anyway... that just blurs things.
Nobody can plan anything around what's been shared with the EVO so far anyway, so why announce it when there's no real, firm info to share? Just keep the updates coming on the T1 Classic, something that's actually real ATM, and announce your next case when you're actually ready to. (Even Wahaha says its vaporware.)
That's what I was trying to get at with that post.
I completely disagree. The creator shares his ideas and thought process which is greatly appreciated and I hope he continues doing so. Ideas are not promises, until the product is ready for production everything is subject to change, it's as simple as that. We, the community, can follow the development from its early stages, provide feedback and affect the development to a certain degree, that's the beauty of it.Nobody can plan anything around what's been shared with the EVO so far anyway, so why announce it when there's no real, firm info to share? Just keep the updates coming on the T1 Classic, something that's actually real ATM, and announce your next case when you're actually ready to. (Even Wahaha says its vaporware.)
1) Yes, correct, only 1 slot GPU in water block will work. I have the EK-Asus 3090, using it for fit and testing. People who wants to fit *two 240 in a <10L case are the crazy ones, it’s a free feature for them.
2) it’s just render that way, you can flip the case.
I assume you mean Fan *in front and *behind the radiator, if yes, then no, it will not work.
It is also completely unnecessary. TX240 is a really thin radiator. If you can use 25mm thick fan, you don't need fans in both side. Save the $.
sold out in 7 mins. be there or be square. it's been like that since July last yearSo uh, preorders were supposed to open up again yesterday, but where? I can't seem to find anything new on https://formdworks.com/products/t1 and I signed up to be notified a long time ago.
Are they open every Friday at 8am now? It's a little bit confusing when the website just states "2020 INVENTORY SOLD OUT! NEXT RELEASE 2021!" and no notification e-mails have been sent outsold out in 7 mins. be there or be square. it's been like that since July last year