Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[DrHudacris]

Guys, I am new in water-cooling. Since there is a little space for a proper reservoir I was wondering, I saw lots of builds people leave some air in the reservoir. Are there any disadvantages to not have one? Can the water expand (boil) and get away from the loop?

I am going to build a loop using Bitspower Magic-cube with DDC.

If your coolant is boiling, you've got way bigger issues. Coolant should not ever exceed 60C

A loop will run totally fine without a dedicated reservoir. The disadvantages are longer to fill with coolant, harder to remove air (as normally the reservoir acts as an air trap). I guess it doesn't look as cool? Just things that can be worked around anyway.

 

[vusun123]

If your coolant is boiling, you've got way bigger issues. Coolant should not ever exceed 60C

A loop will run totally fine without a dedicated reservoir. The disadvantages are longer to fill with coolant, harder to remove air (as normally the reservoir acts as an air trap). I guess it doesn't look as cool? Just things that can be worked around anyway.

Or do the Fabio way, use a DDC pump to fill the loop

 

[TSOF]

EK will supposedly have water blocks ready at (or very close to) Ampere launch. Yiss.

 

[dream3]

Official? Use what you want. Do the research on everyone's recommendation and see what works for you. This kind of thing is NOT one size fits all solution. Everyone has a different use case based on their needs.

You are right, what I actually meant by official is "community consensus". I don't think the uses differ that much, I'm looking for the best small antennas that have the best performance for 5ghz wifi and bluetooth. Seems pretty standard to me, no?

 

[deeeeeeeeee]

You are right, what I actually meant by official is "community consensus". I don't think the uses differ that much, I'm looking for the best small antennas that have the best performance for 5ghz wifi and bluetooth. Seems pretty standard to me, no?

'official' gives the impression that it is a recommended choice given by the designer/team behind the case, not much so a 'community consensus' by first impression of reading it, just imho, no offense!

 

[alwaysbless]

Dang it, XSPC TX 240 is not being manufactured at the moment and local retailers have had their orders terminated so I've been refunded and am now having to rethink which radiator I use. Does triple A12x15 work with an EK SE240 CLASSIC?

Wot I guess I got lucky I just grabbed on Amazon this weekend. I saw frozen cpu had restocked last week too and everyone seems to be charging 89.99

 

[alwaysbless]

For those considering a 3090 will you be switching to air cooling for cpu and watercooling for gpu only? It seems like itll be pretty hard to cool a high end cpu and 3090 with a slim 240mm rad. Hoping the card pcb is short enough to even allow water cooling tbh.

 

[ciaran clare]

'official' gives the impression that it is a recommended choice given by the designer/team behind the case, not much so a 'community consensus' by first impression of reading it, just imho, no offense!

Why does everyone need to be so pedantic, ive noticed this a lot recently. Everyone is getting just a little bit hostile towards everybody. I understand everyone likes correcting each other but come on, also whenever people start arguing the actual question or problem never gets answered.

@dream3 obviously their is no "official" antennas however i noticed @fabio using some pretty cool looking antennas. You may need to ask fabio himself if their any good however he seems like a pretty competent builder so id imagine they work well.Their not 5ghz antennas but i dont know how much that will affect things, if all else fails just use the antennas that came with your motherboard

Heres Fabios build, scroll down a bit for the picture of the antenna

Production - FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Same stress test I did in the Ghost: the temps ARE AMAZING! Only 2/3 degrees higher than the Ghost, but that was using the phenomenal Noctua A12x25! Without FurMark the CPU stay at 76 degrees MAX, exactly the same than in the Ghost. ? So the GPU in the loop, under stress, is adding 4 degrees...

smallformfactor.net

Heres the antennas used, if you read a little on after the post they discuss the price is for a single antenna so you need to buy two.

WCM.01.0151 2.4GHz Button Antenna for Wi-Fi & Bluetooth | Taoglas

Discover the WCM.01.0151, the smallest RP-SMA(M) 2.4GHz antenna on the market. Ideal for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and IoT applications with over 60% efficiency and IP67 water resistance.

www.taoglas.com

 

[PBJ]

Heres the antennas used, if you read a little on after the post they discuss the price is for a single antenna so you need to buy two.

WCM.01.0151 2.4GHz Button Antenna for Wi-Fi & Bluetooth | Taoglas

Discover the WCM.01.0151, the smallest RP-SMA(M) 2.4GHz antenna on the market. Ideal for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and IoT applications with over 60% efficiency and IP67 water resistance.

www.taoglas.com

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I got 2 of those and ended up just using the external antenna included with my ASUS board. If the router is next to you, then it should be fine, but mine is in another room and speed was pretty bad. Makes sense since they’re so small.

Since I don’t like the Asus antenna on the desk, I placed it on a metal part under the desk (it’s magnetic) and have great signal and speed.

 

[PKAWA]

As far as I could see the only short ones that cover the complete range are the fugly green ones

 

[dream3]

As far as I could see the only short ones that cover the complete range are the fugly green ones

any thoughts on @Navic 's comment about them?

Those look like FPV antennas from what I've heard, I would NOT put those on your motherboard or they could cause major problems for the board.

 

[gwertheim]

any thoughts on @Navic 's comment about them?

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Yeah they are built for drones, not computers. There is nothing to think about it.

If you order them, it is at your own risk and any problems you run into are not the responsibility of anyone here and any damage related to those antennas are your own fault.

 

[hetvler]

Do we have a comprehensive list of pumps that fit 2vs3slot mode and the relevant benchmarks like noise, flow rates, temps etc? I know we have the following sheet for rads [which i just realized has the tx240 as a NO despite @DrHudacris telling me its a yes, hmmmm].

Just trying to slowly piece my build together without actually knowing much about what I'm doing custom loop wise.

 

[F7IN]

It's here ?
Unfortunately I realise I've left my IO shield and the AIO backplate at my term time address, so I'll have to transport my rig in its testbed state one more time

 

[DrHudacris]

Do we have a comprehensive list of pumps that fit 2vs3slot mode and the relevant benchmarks like noise, flow rates, temps etc? I know we have the following sheet for rads [which i just realized has the tx240 as a NO despite @DrHudacris telling me its a yes, hmmmm].

Just trying to slowly piece my build together without actually knowing much about what I'm doing custom loop wise.

TX is an asterisk, it can't go against panel, must be spaced away from the top panel either with a set of fans or using the short bracket to keep it closer to the motherboard than panel.

 

[Wahaha360]

2020-08-25: E-White T1 and Chrome Mesh Side Panels FTW!

We just paired the E-White T1 with Chrome Mesh Panel for fun and it looks surprisingly good.

 

[hetvler]

2020-08-25: E-White T1 and Chrome Mesh Side Panels FTW!

We just paired the E-White T1 with Chrome Mesh Panel for fun and it looks surprisingly good.

Please make this an option on the next drop and i'll finally order one.

TX is an asterisk, it can't go against panel, must be spaced away from the top panel either with a set of fans or using the short bracket to keep it closer to the motherboard than panel.

Ah ok, gotcha. I can go ahead and order the tx then too. Thanks!

 

[TSOF]

Probably look better in an apartment overlooking Miami than a bedsit in Slough....

 

[SoSquidTaste]

2020-08-25: E-White T1 and Chrome Mesh Side Panels FTW!

We just paired the E-White T1 with Chrome Mesh Panel for fun and it looks surprisingly good.

Are tolerances on panels tighter with E-White like it is even with Cerakote?

My case definitely demonstrates that T1's tolerances are so tight that even as thin as Cerakote is, some of the joints rub off (specifically the two front panel pieces, and where the top and bottom panels fit into the front panel). Certainly not a problem for my needs, since that's all internal anyhow so I don't care. But very interesting to see! And I thought my Ghost S1 had tight fits, hah

EDIT: OH and that chrome mesh <3

 

[notbitcoin]

Yeah they are built for drones, not computers. There is nothing to think about it

just curious- where is yours/@Navic's evidence of this?

i ask because there's nothing on the product page that mentions they are built for drones (but rather wifi adapters, routers, and devices), and some of the applications mentioned (bluetooth, zigbee) are also poor choices to use with drones. all examples of people using the product back when i bought them were with wireless equipment, and any site offering them lists them in the wireless/wifi antenna section instead of the drone antenna section.

i feel like this is the case where someone said something potentially incorrect, and now it's being passed around as fact. as someone that actually owns/uses the antennas though, i'd prefer to have a real answer from someone that actually has a technical understanding of the "drone antenna" issue and whether or not it's a problem with these.