Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Increase volume from 9.8L to 10.5L to support MSI Suprim X 30XX?

  • Yes, worth the trade off to be more compatible with components

    Votes: 116 24.6%
  • No, not worth it b/c it is not better than the ROG 30XX, which fits now at <10L

    Votes: 355 75.4%

  • Total voters
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DrHudacris

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Jul 20, 2019
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Awesome stuff! Do you have any dB measurements? Can you describe the sound profile at various pump speeds?
Unfortunately not, the port threads aren't cut right/print right...right now I can't thread any fitting in without applying a TON of force, which apparently should not be done with the resin this is printed with as it's brittle and may crack. So I definitely need a 2nd iteration. I need to redesign a bit anyway as this prototype has made some collision issues and installation issues evident... But the pump is a 10 watt alphacool DDC310, so it's pretty quiet even on 100%
 
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DrHudacris

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For anyone using the magiccube...I'm at a loss.. with my stop fitting on top, it doesn't fit in the case, either colliding with the T frame at the front of the case or the GPU block (1080ti founders). Are there lower profile fittings around?
 

MM1893

Minimal Tinkerer
New User
Jul 7, 2020
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Is there any photo documented build for a 3 slot using an Alphacool LT240, one A12x15 and one A12x25? I'm struggling to build one atm and would love some inspiration.
 
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TSOF

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Jun 20, 2020
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For anyone using the magiccube...I'm at a loss.. with my stop fitting on top, it doesn't fit in the case, either colliding with the T frame at the front of the case or the GPU block (1080ti founders). Are there lower profile fittings around?

What connectors is it attached to the rad with? I needs to sit so that the stop fitting sits next to the T frame, not behind it.
 

DrHudacris

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Jul 20, 2019
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What connectors is it attached to the rad with? I needs to sit so that the stop fitting sits next to the T frame, not behind it.
I'm using a dual rotary 90. The trouble I'd run into offsetting it further to clear the T frame is that it'd stick out the side of the case, right? Unless I'm missing something super obvious..
 
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DrHudacris

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Jul 20, 2019
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Maybe Maybe, NO ALPHACOOL???
And Betwenn the GPU and the PSU you can see an Intel 905p connected to the back NVME SSD! ;)




I am baffled... Titan RTX is the same length as 1080 ti founders and yet I don't have the clearance for the stop fitting like @fabio does...Truly an enigma...
 

alwaysbless

Efficiency Noob
Aug 14, 2020
7
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You know what will fit instead? This:

Please see a doctor for erections lasting longer than 4 hours. But not me, I don't want to see that.

This was designed by me, and optimized by reddit user gible98, printed on an SLA. Consider it a prototype Still needs tweaking, top strut collides, front lid has to go on first instead of after (will fix this), and still not sure how to connect outlet to radiator.. I guess it'd have to be fittings only..but can't test that as the G1/4 didn't print well or something.

@Wahaha360 distro please!

Photo sensitive resin used in prints like this is pretty toxic stuff. Id be careful introducing anything from that into the loop.
 

notbitcoin

Average Stuffer
Aug 3, 2019
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

to be continued
 

alwaysbless

Efficiency Noob
Aug 14, 2020
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Depending on where it was printed, they'll typically thoroughly solvent clean and rinse the resulting part. I wouldn't be particularly worried about the resulting loop.

Solvent cleaning just removes uncured resin from the outer surface it doesnt change its composition. This material itself is TOXIC AF itll strip the varnish off a wood surface or anodizing off an aluminum frame in seconds uncured. Cured its just a solidified block of the same material so running water through it non stop is not going to be nice.
 
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TSOF

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Jun 20, 2020
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I'm using a dual rotary 90. The trouble I'd run into offsetting it further to clear the T frame is that it'd stick out the side of the case, right? Unless I'm missing something super obvious..

Hmm.. I guess that depends on where the ports on your rad are - I'm using a GTS240 with a barrow offset rotary --> EK dual 45 rotary.
That just clears the T-frame.
 

Goatee

King of Cable Management
Jun 22, 2018
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You know what will fit instead? This:

Please see a doctor for erections lasting longer than 4 hours. But not me, I don't want to see that.

This was designed by me, and optimized by reddit user gible98, printed on an SLA. Consider it a prototype Still needs tweaking, top strut collides, front lid has to go on first instead of after (will fix this), and still not sure how to connect outlet to radiator.. I guess it'd have to be fittings only..but can't test that as the G1/4 didn't print well or something.

@Wahaha360 distro please!

Fancy sharing so I can have a print too?
 

DrHudacris

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Jul 20, 2019
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Fancy sharing so I can have a print too?

I just have the original "unoptimized" version. Gible98 on reddit is a freaking CAD wizard and added nifty little details and changes, like offsetting the plane where the outlet exits to accommodate taller fittings, and an internal channel to direct air to an air exhaust location. I'll make a thingiverse and put mine there after I've made the tweaks to improve ease of installation and resolve the collision issues. I'll have to see if gible98 will share his STL.

Also I'm gonna post up my front cover shells...and still working on the alternative top/bottom panels.
 
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blackhawk1788

Case Bender
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Mar 17, 2020
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Since I do mount my builds under my table and my old bracket kind of limited airflow, I decided to build my own using the Clear Premium MakerBeam Starter Kit. This a kit full of 10x10 aluminium profiles to build anything you need (mostly used for 3D printing I think). It keeps the T1 secured under my table with the option to slide in and out whenever I want to work on it. The PC has exactly 10cm above to exhaust hot air with the Noctua fans, which is enough to keep it cool.

 

Allhopeforhumanity

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May 1, 2017
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Solvent cleaning just removes uncured resin from the outer surface it doesnt change its composition. This material itself is TOXIC AF itll strip the varnish off a wood surface or anodizing off an aluminum frame in seconds uncured. Cured its just a solidified block of the same material so running water through it non stop is not going to be nice.

Maybe we're thinking of different materials, but in general curing (cross-linking, crystallization, etc) does change a materials composition and toxicity. A solidified resin is most likely going to be non-toxic unless dissolved. I mean, probably avoid drinking any fluid you put through a loop, or snorting a line of powdered resin in general, but otherwise cured resin products are pretty safe all things considered.
 

Tazpr

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Aug 7, 2018
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I don't think it'll fit in the 2 slot GPU mode either. As per Ali's measurements, with fittings they are exceeding, although barely, the 70mm cooler height limit ?
Are the Koolance 90 degree fittings shorter than the Alphacool TPV 90 degree rotaries?

EDIT: just looked it up and the HF Compression fitting is rated at 18 mm high compared to the 20mm of the Koolance meaning it may *JUST* fit in the likes of the FormD T1 since OT showed the Barrow sitting at 72mm with the Koolance fittings which would make it exactly 70mm on the CPU/Motherboard he was using in the video.
 
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notbitcoin

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Aug 3, 2019
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And we're up and running (despite encountering my first leak ever... from the fill port on the cpu block of all places).

Part A: rotated CPU block w/ ultra short tubes; note that if ASRock had a temperature header on the motherboard, then I'd be using a temp probe stop fitting on the fill port instead-


Part B: 120mm fan cooling motherboard while in 3-slot GPU config-


and then I failed Part C, which was trying to push the radiator close enough to the back so that I could use a 90-degree fitting on the Coolworld fill port (placing a fill port at the top/front of the case). I can make this work if I opt to remove the wifi/bluetooth card (which would also make the tubing easier to fit), but not sure if having access to that port matters that much to me since the one on the cpu block works well enough.

My biggest issue at the moment is that my pump has been dying for a while now (or I think it's dying), to where I have to tap on it to get it up and running sometimes, so I can't really firm-up the fan mount until the Aurora LT Solo becomes available. Beyond that- just need to firm-up the PSU mount and possibly get some shorter cables/do cable management, and I should have a pretty clean build.

edit- played new world (uncapped) for 45 mins before making the change/after: fan at 1250rpm results in 12c drop on motherboard, 18c drop on PCH, and 20c drop on ssd.
 
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DrLeroy

Noob Saibot
May 15, 2020
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And we're up and running (despite encountering my first leak ever... from the fill port on the cpu block of all places).
/trim

Which fittings did you use of the lt solo here? looks like your solution may work on my x570 strix if i am lucky as every time i look at it i think i am going to have to go another route for waterblock and pump.
(not that i have been able to get a damn case yet though!)
Cheers.