Chimera Industries Cerberus: The 18L, mATX, USA-made enclosure
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I'm thinking about making a custom AIO using a dual 92mm rad and Eisbaer LT and hang it off the side hinge. Unfortunately I'll only be able to attach it at the top since the hinge doesn't have cutouts to support 92mm fans.
Looking at the measurements it should fit there and still leave room for a front mounted power supply.
Looking at the measurements it should fit there and still leave room for a front mounted power supply.
As far as I remembered, SFX front position is not compatible with e-ATX. (just checked physically in my Cerberus-X)
If you go to ATX, you will keep TRX40 platform?
Otherwise, bottom 280mm radiator is theorically possible but I don't recommend it at all as it's blocking most of bottom i/o. Bottom 240mm radiator is possible but you will face issues as described by @Uruk but on top, it will heavily increase GPU temperature (as it will receive hot exhausted air fro CPU cooler)
For threadripper build, it's difficult to recommend either U9S-TR4 or 645LT for cpu cooling (they are great cooler up to around 120w GPU)..but it's still an option. Other option is to keep rear SFX psu position and front AIO, maybe up to 140mm, in order not to reduce GPU compatibilty.
Last option is to use Iceman pump/radiator block and create a customed loop (in that case bottom rad is ok) like below
It's just a 5600x. I'm also debating using a 140mm instead of the dual 92mm. I know it won't really be much, if any, of an improvement over the C14S but I'm kind of bored so...
lol just go for 645LT with rear position...this is best cooling solution with C14S..
Yeah, that probably makes more sense than building a custom AIO for 2x the price that would only perform marginally better.lol just go for 645LT with rear position...this is best cooling solution with C14S..
Build question: In a Cerberus X, would the tubing of a 240-mm CPU AIO (Corsair H100i RGB Platinum) be able to fit around a 3090 FE and be routed down to that AIO mounted at the bottom?
EDIT: It would seem so for non-X Cerberus with this particular AIO, but I want to be absolutely certain given the cost of my parts:
Update: Yes. It will work. Found a build of a Cerberus X with a 240 Corsair AIO and a 3090 FE. Cables can be routed right under the GPU. Question answered.
EDIT: It would seem so for non-X Cerberus with this particular AIO, but I want to be absolutely certain given the cost of my parts:
Update: Yes. It will work. Found a build of a Cerberus X with a 240 Corsair AIO and a 3090 FE. Cables can be routed right under the GPU. Question answered.
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However...hot exhaust air from aio radiator is going to feed RTX 3090...very bad for gpu cooling and noise...
I will also have two front 120-mm intakes and two top 120-mm exhausts. That should help to keep the temperature at bay for the most part.
Front fan will help gpu temp but GPU will be still 7-8 hotter compared to pure bottom intake (with no radiator). This depends 100% on your workload...if you are playing, just maximize gpu cooling...
I have noticed whispers and accounts (like this above) of pslatecustoms making custom cables for Cerberus and Cerberus X (like this), but I don't seem to see it listed on his website. His website says "If your case or PSU is not listed on our site, we do not currently sell custom cables for it." So are these one-offs where he has offered a one-time exception for certain people? I have been contemplating getting custom cables for my Cerberus X, but it doesn't look hopeful based on this website information that @pslate would do it. I imagine he is pretty slammed with orders from the major uptick in computer building these days which would further reduce my chances.
Just got a reply back. @pslate stated they don't "currently" make custom cables for the Cerberus X. I hope they do soon, though.wait & see..
Can the Cerberus X fit 2x 120x25mm fans at the top with the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero? I may have made a miscalculation in ordering two EK-Vardar EVO 120ER DRGBs for the top mount bracket. Would the VRM heatsinks obstruct the fans? I will be using an SFX PSU with a rear-mounted bracket. This is what I am aiming for:
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| +----(top fan mount, 25mm fans, exhaust)---+ |
| | 120mm | | 120mm | |
| +-----------------+ +-----------------+ |
+-------------------+ +--+ |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| SFX PSU | | | |
| | | |120x
| | +--+25mm
+-------------------+ fans,
| +--+intake
| | | |
| | | |
| +-----------------------------------+ | | |
| | 240mm rad (cpu) | | | |
| +-----------------------------------+ +--+ |
| 120x25mm fans, intake |
+-----------------------------------------------+
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Seems I found my answer. Short answer: no. Longer answer:
That shoots a hole in that boat, but boats can always be rebuilt. Hopefully now, I can get Performance PC's to cancel and revisit my order with this new revelation. The initial game plan was doing a full RGB fan setup, but I can adjust again. That all said, I wonder what slim RGB fans would work that aren't a total wash in terms of performance?
That shoots a hole in that boat, but boats can always be rebuilt. Hopefully now, I can get Performance PC's to cancel and revisit my order with this new revelation. The initial game plan was doing a full RGB fan setup, but I can adjust again. That all said, I wonder what slim RGB fans would work that aren't a total wash in terms of performance?
As you noticed, only slim fan can be put on top. You don't need really powerful/best fans fans as it's just for exhaust. Try from ID-cooling to find rgb slim 120 fan (same on IS-60 EVO).
Random middle-of-the-night thought: Could 120mm fans be screwed in off-center enough to clear the VRM heatsinks?
I mean doing something like this. I mean, aesthetically, it would impact symmetry from the top, but if the distance is enough, it would allow the fan to pass just above the VRM without obstruction. This is an example of what might be done with a motherboard with interfering VRM heatsinks:
(Original image taken from @altano's build here.)
I have been poring over all the build images like mad (referencing especially this, this, and this) and it seems plausible if the distance is enough.
EDIT: So this has been done before. See below. They "shifted off-center most away from the motherboard." Bingo! The problem is knowing if it will work consistently since VRM heatsink height varies from model to model, with my motherboard being a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero. Hmm...
I mean doing something like this. I mean, aesthetically, it would impact symmetry from the top, but if the distance is enough, it would allow the fan to pass just above the VRM without obstruction. This is an example of what might be done with a motherboard with interfering VRM heatsinks:
(Original image taken from @altano's build here.)
I have been poring over all the build images like mad (referencing especially this, this, and this) and it seems plausible if the distance is enough.
EDIT: So this has been done before. See below. They "shifted off-center most away from the motherboard." Bingo! The problem is knowing if it will work consistently since VRM heatsink height varies from model to model, with my motherboard being a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero. Hmm...
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To be honest, it's not worth having 25mm for just exhaust purpose...there is no strong resistance to passthrough top panel.Random middle-of-the-night thought: Could 120mm fans be screwed in off-center enough to clear the VRM heatsinks?
I mean doing something like this. I mean, aesthetically, it would impact symmetry from the top, but if the distance is enough, it would allow the fan to pass just above the VRM without obstruction. This is an example of what might be done with a motherboard with interfering VRM heatsinks:
(Original image taken from @altano's build here.)
I have been poring over all the build images like mad (referencing especially this, this, and this) and it seems plausible if the distance is enough.
EDIT: So this has been done before. See below. They "shifted off-center most away from the motherboard." Bingo! The problem is knowing if it will work consistently since VRM heatsink height varies from model to model, with my motherboard being a Crosshair VIII Dark Hero. Hmm...
I mean : putting NF A12x25 on radiator is leading clear performance/noise advantage. For pure case exhaust fan, difference between NF A12x15 & NF A12x25 is minimum as you will setup fan at 1000 rpm (for example) and it will exhaust hot air in similar way (no major temperature impact on GPU/CPU)
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