Interesting. Thanks for asking the question then. I certainly hope the riser isn't the issue as I plan on buying a 1080ti
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Prototype The world most flexible SFF case? LOUQE Ghost S1
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There was a whole debacle about risers needing to carry power and stuff - long story short is that virtually all modern cards will draw nearly all of their power over the dedicated plugs on them.
So nothing to worry about if I get an EVGA 1080Ti SC2 and a 600W corsair PSU?
Depending on CPU I'm sure you'll be fine, most wattage estimators out there tend to err very much on the side of caution.
Im using a 6700k. If the PCI-E Riser isn't going to bottleneck anything, Ill be fine. I think
Does that apply to cards with without dual 8-pin connectors? 6+8 pin maxes out at 250W.
It'll be fine, I'm rather sure of it. I've used risers for about as long as I've been into PC's.
Yes:
The peak draw wouldn't hurt anything, and even the max during torture is below the rating (and those connectors will tend to be rated below their capability).
They provide well above their rating. It can draw over PCIe if it's configured to do that, but after the RX 480 issue it's less common now.
I don't want to beat a dead horse. I just don't see how a 6+8 pin card doesn't pull from the slot when told to go 20% over the limit of power supply connectors' spec. The OEMs would be gambling on power supplies providing more than the spec. I'll have to do some more research.
Go right ahead
if I'm wrong I'd love to know. It's a good question, I think at some point I'll design a PCB to test it.I just researched some stuff and it looks like the 8pin provides 150W, and 6 pin provides 75. That is a total of 225W. The EVGA 1080ti SC2 is rated at 250W. is the other 25W going to come from the PCI-E riser? how much wattage can this riser provide?Go right ahead
Sorry to keep going on and on about this. Im just trying to understand how this all works.
I have seen tons of 1080 Tis in Dan A4-SFX and Sentry builds and they both use riser cables, so I am guessing it is not a problem.
The PCI Express 3.0 provides 75 watts of power, a quality riser will provide that or close to it.
The PCI Express 3.0 provides 75 watts of power, a quality riser will provide that or close to it.
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You are right Riser cables are fine to use. Had a phanteks shift which uses a riser. worked just fine. BTW that was one of the worst cases I've ever purchased.
How come? i cancelled my phanteks shift order in favor of the ghost s1, this is kind of reassuring to hear.
Where to start:
1. The glass panel on the graphics card side doesn't let hot air to escape. My 1080FTW card got pretty hot and the fans always ran even with the least stress placed on in. I would only recommend a blower card.
2. If you use a SFX-L PSU there's little room (about 1.5cm gap to route your cables towards theMB and GPU (I think there's a few youtube vids that point this point. The 24 Pin connector is especially difficult to tread through the gap; and i would recommend doing the cabling 1st before you screw the psu in.
3. Poor SSD location. Hard to easily remove and put back when the PSU and MB are in.
4. The little drop down cable management tray flips down and always stays down as the tray isn't wide enough to accommodate all your cabling and the blue usb case connector. The magnet used to resist the pressure of the cables is too weak. Plus its made of the cheapest plastic and looks sh*t.
5. The biggest problem was the design of the front case case vent (hole) and the solid front panel. If you try to exhaust, the pattern design of the vent and the solid panel causes turbulence if the fan goes above 800 rpm. Effectively the air being pushed out bounces back into the fan off the panel. This significantly increase noise from the fan. Having the fan as intake results ends up with similar issues due to the pattern of the vent.
6. Plus the sheet steel used is the cheapest you'll ever see.
In all, there have been little follow up reviews past lunch. Hardwareshaucks (i think that's how its spelled) promised to do a follow-up video from his inital review. Don't think he did.
Its like they designed the case and didn't even test it; or they didn't give a shit. Issues that could have been fixed as follows:
1. used a vented aluminium panel instead of glass.
2. Simply increased the space for the cables by 1cm. Easily done given the construction used.
3. Just found a better location for the SSD mount.
4. Better magnet, increased width, and made the part out of metal.
5. Used thicker steel so the metal won't flex. So they could have just had a round opening instead of the pattern. Also should have paced venting holes on the aluminium panel.
Thanks very much for the in dept answer! and i really hope you can sell the case... like passing on the curse in this matter
I'm very glad i went for the Ghost S1. I was just looking for an upgrade to my fractal design node 202, since it ain't the best looking case there is ayy?
, but then i reminded myself on why i wanted to have an itx build in the first place and that buying a case as big as the shift would be in conflict with my philosophy "smaller is better".I just really hope that my girlfriend could think that way
Mind you it was a 1080Ti mini. But you are right, a 500/ 600w PSU should be fine for this build. I currently have a 700SFX-L which is a bit over kill. Might sell it for a 600w SFX unit.
Just two questions. Is the noise profile between the 92mm fans on SFX and 12omm fans SFX-L significantly different? Should just stick with my SFX-L?
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