Prototype The world most flexible SFF case? LOUQE Ghost S1

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For reference, my current build.

The EKWB 3080 FE water blocks just came available for preorder so I grabbed one. I'm still trying to get a 3080 FE for my build, so I have a month or so to get a 3080 and plan how I'm going to fit it.

The 3080 FE water block is the easy part. It's really short - EKWB lists the length as 205mm - but I want to add a reservoir in the extra space while I'm at it. The S1 allows 316mm for the GPU which gives me just over 100mm of space to work with.

To that end, I have also ordered a Swiftech MCRES Micro Rev 2. The MCRES is 103mm if you leave the mounting tabs on it, but since I have nothing to attach them to I will probably be filing them off leaving me with the main body that is only 76mm long. (See measurement diagram below.)

So, 205mm + 76mm == 281 mm in total length, leaving 35mm free space, but the complications come in when you try to plumb it all together.

The FE water block will come with 2 terminals - both have the in/out ports at the back end of the card where the FE PCBs have the V shaped cutout. One terminal will have the ports mounted in the typical direction - facing the front of the card, i.e. facing the Ghost side panel. The other terminal will have the ports mounted facing the rear of the card, i.e. towards the Ghost front panel and the empty space where I want to put a reservoir.

The FE block will be 29mm thick which doesn't leave much room for fittings installed in front-facing ports to clear the side panel. The space for the GPU is only just over 51mm wide and I don't know if that counts the space between the back of the GPU and the backbone of the case. The Koolance low profile connectors that I'm using for my current build with the 2080Ti block are just under 20mm from the face that they mount into so this would just squeak by, but the gotcha with the Koolance fittings is that the exit port is flush with the surface so I may not be able to use them if the lip of the terminal is too wide. Also, they don't leave a lot of clearance in my current build and the 2080Ti block seems a lot thinner than the 3080 block (I can't find a spec for the 2080 Ti block to compare with, though).

Alternatively, using a straight out fitting on the rear-facing terminal gives plenty of room for tube routing if you ignore the reservoir I want to put in that space. If I mount the reservoir flush against the front panel, then I have about 35mm between the two ideally (it remains to be seen if the 205mm length that EKWB quotes includes the rear bracket or not). That would be a tight fit for a straight through connection between the two. Also, only one of the connections would go straight into the reservoir, the other connections on the reservoir and GPU would have to angle off to different destinations all within that 35mm space. Not even 2 Koolance low profile connectors could sit end to end there.

Potentially I could offset them so that the straight through path would connect top port on one to the bottom port on the other, allowing the other ports to get the full 35mm gap to vector off somewhere else. I'd have to diagram that out to see if the routing looks nice or just makeshift. I'm also hoping to reclaim the space under the PSU for a fan and so the offset positioning would likely have the reservoir encroaching on that space. I'm assuming that the GPU ports are intended to be used as intake on top with outlet on bottom. I know that most GPU blocks run within a degree or so in reverse, but the 3080 block is kind of weird so I'm not sure I want to buck the design intent there. Similarly the reservoir ports seem to be similarly designed, assuming that the lowest port is best used as an outlet to put it as far from the air pocket as it can get. This means that I'm likely to have to offset the reservoir downwards so that its intake lines up with the GPU's outlet.

The MCRES does have other ports - 2 on the side that would face the GPU. One on the bottom that they typically show holding a temperature sensor. And one on the top that is typically indicated as a fill port. That tasking of the ports makes sense for the four ports so I don't see trying to get fancy with alternate routing, though I currently have my temp sensor in an extra port on the radiator so I haven't decided if I'm going to swap it to the reservoir.

Main questions I have:
  • Is 35mm too short to connect port to port in a straight through fashion?
  • Is there another reservoir to consider for that location that might be slimmer and have a wider port spacing?
  • Is a reservoir under the radiator considered a bit odd?
  • Reservoir should usually go right before the pump, but I don't think I have the space for that here. Is Rad/Pump/CPU/GPU/Res/Rad a reasonable order?
  • I could probably also consider Rad/Pump/CPU/Res/GPU/Rad.
  • Rad/Res/Pump/CPU/GPU/Rad would have a lot of tubes coming and going in the narrow space between GPU and Reservoir and I'm not sure I can offset them enough to avoid collisions.

Block diagram of MCRES for reference:
 

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Dear Louqe,

I finally bought and built your case. Very well made and I like the materials. However...

It needs to be 5mm bigger in all directions.

5mm width GPU side massively improves GPU compatibility.

5mm width on the CPU side gets users the Ghost L12S with no mods. Massive improvement in CPU cooling.

10mm in length improves GPU compatibility.

10mm in height...thing fan up top? Not sure really. I just included it for proportions.

Yes...I am completely ignoring that this would basically mean a massive retooling and redesign making it completely unrealistic. 😅

Ghost is great though.
 
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Dear Louqe,

I finally bought and built your case. Very well made and I like the materials. However...

It needs to be 5mm bigger in all directions.

5mm width GPU side massively improves GPU compatibility.

5mm width on the CPU side gets users the Ghost L12S with no mods. Massive improvement in CPU cooling.

10mm in length improves GPU compatibility.

10mm in height...thing fan up top? Not sure really. I just included it for proportions.

Yes...I am completely ignoring that this would basically mean a massive retooling and redesign making it completely unrealistic. 😅

Ghost is great though.
They will never do it. People have asked for it BEFORE the general first production, and they didn’t want to do 😉
 

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They will never do it. People have asked for it BEFORE the general first production, and they didn’t want to do 😉

LOL. So I've heard. Doing it would cost a fortune now anyway. Sill a nice case.
 

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I've made a build with Ryzen 5900X in Ghost S1. It wan't easy considering I don't like “top hats”.

 

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I've made a build with Ryzen 5900X in Ghost S1. It wan't easy considering I don't like “top hats”.

The build looks nice. I like the full copper heat sink.

I don't mind the top hat myself. I am using them in current build. My only issue with them is, with the precision CNC machining can attain and the cost of the case, there should have been a better fit. Rather than a fine line running around the chassis, there is more like a demilitarized zone, a no-man's land, where the top hat and the main chassis meets.

I am still going to use them though. While caring about how the build looks, it is more important to have the functional water cooled loop doing it's job. Lack of GPU has the project on extended hold.
 

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The build looks nice. I like the full copper heat sink.

I don't mind the top hat myself. I am using them in current build. My only issue with them is, with the precision CNC machining can attain and the cost of the case, there should have been a better fit. Rather than a fine line running around the chassis, there is more like a demilitarized zone, a no-man's land, where the top hat and the main chassis meets.

I am still going to use them though. While caring about how the build looks, it is more important to have the functional water cooled loop doing it's job. Lack of GPU has the project on extended hold.
Top hats are nice idea, but I'd prefer them to be different versions of the case itself, not additional parts. (I understand it significantly raises the cost of production in that case, that's why it's done like we have it now.)
 
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Top hats are nice idea, but I'd prefer them to be different versions of the case itself, not additional parts. (I understand it significantly raises the cost of production in that case, that's why it's done like we have it now.)

I like the flex ability of the top hats, but would gladly pay for a second set of panels instead.
 
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Wow this thread is so dead lately, just finished upgrading my Ghost and thought I would share. I have had my Ghost since shortly after the kickstarter and was running a 8700k and a RTX 2070 which was later upgraded to a RTX 2080 Super. Build was originally fully watercooled but I switched back to aircooling after I upgraded to the 2080 Super. I like the look of the Ghost much better without the large tophat and I didn't want to buy another GPU waterblock to my growing collection.
Finally decided to upgrade with the release of Alder Lake, 12600k looked like the sweet spot for gaming performance. Like many I have wanted a RTX 3080 FE since release. Everyone here knows the story and the 3080 FE are still bringing premium prices so I finally decided on a RTX 3070 Ti FE for $200 over MSRP which in this current market was pretty good.







Louqe Ghost S1
Intel i5 12600k
Gigabyte z690i Aorus Ultra DDR4
Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti FE
G Skill TridentZ 3200 MHz 2x16GB
Noctua NH-L12 Ghost S1 Edition
Corsair SF600 Platinum
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB NVMe SSD
Crucial P1 1TB NVMe SSD
Crucial M500 960GB 2.5 SSD
3x120mm Scythe Kaze Flex Slim
I have the anti-vandal switch and unsleeved cables from pslate. I have a full set of parts from Meta Customs which includes mount plate, bottom plate, RTX3000 spine and highflow grill.

Between the open spine, top and bottom exhaust fans and a mild undervolt my 3070 Ti maxes out at 72C. CPU idles at high 20 to low 30C and max gaming temps are 75C. with the recent design changes in GPUs I thought for sure I was going to have to change cases in order to get a 3000 series, glad I will be able to use the case for at least the next few years.
 

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Wow this thread is so dead lately, just finished upgrading my Ghost and thought I would share. I have had my Ghost since shortly after the kickstarter and was running a 8700k and a RTX 2070 which was later upgraded to a RTX 2080 Super. Build was originally fully watercooled but I switched back to aircooling after I upgraded to the 2080 Super. I like the look of the Ghost much better without the large tophat and I didn't want to buy another GPU waterblock to my growing collection.
Finally decided to upgrade with the release of Alder Lake, 12600k looked like the sweet spot for gaming performance. Like many I have wanted a RTX 3080 FE since release. Everyone here knows the story and the 3080 FE are still bringing premium prices so I finally decided on a RTX 3070 Ti FE for $200 over MSRP which in this current market was pretty good.







Louqe Ghost S1
Intel i5 12600k
Gigabyte z690i Aorus Ultra DDR4
Nvidia RTX 3070 Ti FE
G Skill TridentZ 3200 MHz 2x16GB
Noctua NH-L12 Ghost S1 Edition
Corsair SF600 Platinum
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB NVMe SSD
Crucial P1 1TB NVMe SSD
Crucial M500 960GB 2.5 SSD
3x120mm Scythe Kaze Flex Slim
I have the anti-vandal switch and unsleeved cables from pslate. I have a full set of parts from Meta Customs which includes mount plate, bottom plate, RTX3000 spine and highflow grill.

Between the open spine, top and bottom exhaust fans and a mild undervolt my 3070 Ti maxes out at 72C. CPU idles at high 20 to low 30C and max gaming temps are 75C. with the recent design changes in GPUs I thought for sure I was going to have to change cases in order to get a 3000 series, glad I will be able to use the case for at least the next few years.

Nice build! What are your Prime95 Small FFT temps on the CPU?
 
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