Production The First - Monsterlabo High Performance SFF case & Fanless CPU / GPU

[yeahe - ML]

This morning, delivery of a new configuration, here are the performances before closing:
With ambient 14.5°C - Aida64 bench - fully open chassis
RTX2070 & 9600K

 

[Duality92]

Here's what's included in my package.

Worth the asking price? Definitely.

 

[Nord1ing]

Las week I tested my The First with dust filter instead of lower skin and thermals are very close to one without lower skin at all.

 

[JD809]

I've just purchased my own first case from Monsterlabo. I'm planning on sticking an RTX 2080TI Founders edition in there. I'm not sure if this gonna be doable or not, obviously it won't be fully passively, but with a single noctua fan at medium load.

 

[Duality92]

I've just purchased my own first case from Monsterlabo. I'm planning on sticking an RTX 2080TI Founders edition in there. I'm not sure if this gonna be doable or not, obviously it won't be fully passively, but with a single noctua fan at medium load.

I'll be testing a 2080 when I get my CPU soon if you need a reference

 

[yeahe - ML]

@Nord1ing Nice build ! What's the temps ?

I've just purchased my own first case from Monsterlabo. I'm planning on sticking an RTX 2080TI Founders edition in there. I'm not sure if this gonna be doable or not, obviously it won't be fully passively, but with a single noctua fan at medium load.

--> Hello. Thanks for your order. Doing a fanless build with a 2080Ti is definitely a challenge. The main issue is not the global performance of the cooling itself but over 180W/190W the heatpipe will not work efficiently. This is due to the length, shape and numbers.
--> The limitation at 180W/190W comes from the design
so I think you will need to downclock the board to fit in terms of power.
Or maybe you are good with your hands and you can try to add some extra features (I hope to have time to release some extreme options soon )

I'll be testing a 2080 when I get my CPU soon if you need a reference

Will you test also with a more standard GPU ?

 

[Duality92]

@Nord1ing Nice build ! What's the temps ?



--> Hello. Thanks for your order. Doing a fanless build with a 2080Ti is definitely a challenge. The main issue is not the global performance of the cooling itself but over 180W/190W the heatpipe will not work efficiently. This is due to the length, shape and numbers.
--> The limitation at 180W/190W comes from the design
so I think you will need to downclock the board to fit in terms of power.
Or maybe you are good with your hands and you can try to add some extra features (I hope to have time to release some extreme options soon )


Will you test also with a more standard GPU ?

a 1070 too

 

[yeahe - ML]

@Duality92 Nice !!

@Nord1ing I just ordered some very small mesh. It's the one I used on CES mod.

This could be useful for top mesh option and for bottom modding.
Let see what I can do with it.

@all - Few product updates:
- We will receive small heatsink to mount with tape very soon.
- V1 version of top fan is also on their way
- New skin soon available - now painting to see final result.

 

[yeahe - ML]

https://www.cowcotland.com/news/670...ion-boitier-passif-monsterlabo-the-first.html


& article in French with performances

https://www.cowcotland.com/articles/2710-5/test-boitier-monsterlabo-the-first.html

 

[yeahe - ML]

Nice build from one of our customer. Thanks !



The i3 6300 & GTX 1060 are cold

 

[yeahe - ML]

This one may be the good one for back panel.

 

[yeahe - ML]

Dear,
We have updated our PC systems proposal on our shop:

https://www.monsterlabo.com/shop

Have a good week

 

[Nord1ing]

I made a remix of lower skin for myself to integrate more vents

Lower skin with dust filter for Monsterlabo's "The First" by Nord1ing

Monsterlabo - The First - Front skin / bottom part remix for installation of dust filters and better vents update.04.05 - fixed some geometry issues update.15.05 - adapted for 120mm dust filters update 18.06 - final version

www.thingiverse.com

Dear,
We have updated our PC systems proposal on our shop:

I would say about the configuration of AMD:

If it is designed for games, the Ryzen 2600 will be better value, or 1700x (4 euros cheaper than 1700 at Amazon, lol).

It makes no sense to pay for the x370 chipset, it is better to buy the same Asrock with a B350 and 16 GB of RAM .

 

[yeahe - ML]

@Nord1ing
Thanks for the share ! This could be a nice design. It would be easier to have directely in aluminium but let's try with 3D printing first.
I will order some parts later if people wants.
What I would like do is to integrate the mesh I just received. This would be really nice.


For the configuration you are right. I think we will move to the Ryzen 2600.
Price is the same and performances are better.
Off course all the configuration could be customized.
Thx !!

 

[Nord1ing]

@yeahe - ML I already order one 3D printed and I will share photos ones I have it

 

[JD809]

So I've completed my build consisting of an Nvidia RTX 2080TI, Ryzen 2600x CPU, 16gb of DDR4 RAM and a fanless 450 WATT power supply. So far I've been surprised to find the GPU seems to have no major performance issues, even with no power limits put in place. In fact the only issue I've found is the NVME drive mounted under underneath my motherboard seems to be getting rather hot at 76c. Other than that everything works fine, I was surprised to find there was no Displayport extender cable included however? Given HDMI is less popular than DisplayPort with the newer graphics card makers, seems like an odd choice.



Building it was initially an absolute nightmare due to the low quality build tutorial videos. However it's actually rather simple once you figure out how everything is meant to be mounted. I'll upload benchmarks soon.

 

[Nord1ing]

@JD809 wow it's a bit high temp for nvme. Mine (960 pro) don't go over 55C

 

[McIntyre]

I have created a lower skin with holes and let it 3D print. Now my components are cooled even better.


Here is the Link to the STL.
The_First_Bottom_Skin_Holes_V3.stl

@yeahe - ML feel free to upload the STL to thingverse.

 

[yeahe - ML]

@Nord1ing
Nice !!! I'm looking forward to have your pictures

So I've completed my build consisting of an Nvidia RTX 2080TI, Ryzen 2600x CPU, 16gb of DDR4 RAM and a fanless 450 WATT power supply. So far I've been surprised to find the GPU seems to have no major performance issues, even with no power limits put in place. In fact the only issue I've found is the NVME drive mounted under underneath my motherboard seems to be getting rather hot at 76c. Other than that everything works fine, I was surprised to find there was no Displayport extender cable included however? Given HDMI is less popular than DisplayPort with the newer graphics card makers, seems like an odd choice.



Building it was initially an absolute nightmare due to the low quality build tutorial videos. However it's actually rather simple once you figure out how everything is meant to be mounted. I'll upload benchmarks soon.

Hello,
Thanks for your feedback.
I would really, really & really appreciate your temperature log. Could you do a run with HWinfo64 ? & some pictures ?
Maybe you right we should better send a Displayport in the bundle. We could maybe propose it as a choice. We will check to modify the question list.
Sorry about my video. I hope the next one will be better. Also there will be a full pictures manual to go with it.
Regarding your NVMe, I would recommend to put a small NVMe heatsink that might really help.
I think you will win a lot.
Mine has never been over 60°C (1To 860 EVO)

 

[yeahe - ML]

I have created a lower skin with holes and let it 3D print. Now my components are cooled even better.


Here is the Link to the STL.
The_First_Bottom_Skin_Holes_V3.stl

@yeahe - ML feel free to upload the STL to thingverse.

Thanks ! I will upload it and it's nice to see your picture.

Do you have some temperature log before & after ?