Log SMALLEST ATX CASE : CERBERUS-X (Complete build log)

MarcParis

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Asus has just updated their bios of crosshair vi to 1401:
  • Agesa 1.0.0.6 that improved ram compatibility and unlock ram up to 4ghz
  • At last, crosshair vi is monitoring proper temperature on my r7 1700x..:)
As a direct consequence, i'm able to boot, at last, my gskill flare-x at 3200mhz cas 14..:) but first trials showed it's doable only on hot boot..:)

Also due to high temperature in France, my oc @4ghz is no longer stable..:) 3.9ghz is perfectly stable.

I'll redo my oc using new opportunites with agesa 1.0.0.6.

It should be also possible to oc ram without bclk with agesa 1.0.0.6..:)
 
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Well thunderbolt 3 is an intel technology, not opened at all..:)

As it won't be supported natively on x299, i don't know if there will be a lot of x299 with it
 

MarcParis

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Asus has just updated their bios of crosshair vi to 1401:
  • Agesa 1.0.0.6 that improved ram compatibility and unlock ram up to 4ghz
  • At last, crosshair vi is monitoring proper temperature on my r7 1700x..:)
As a direct consequence, i'm able to boot, at last, my gskill flare-x at 3200mhz cas 14..:) but first trials showed it's doable only on hot boot..:)

Also due to high temperature in France, my oc @4ghz is no longer stable..:) 3.9ghz is perfectly stable.

I'll redo my oc using new opportunites with agesa 1.0.0.6.

It should be also possible to oc ram without bclk with agesa 1.0.0.6..:)
I'm confirming :
  • You don't need anymore bclk to OC RAM on Ryzen CPU...waouh..:)
  • I've managed to reach stable 4.0Ghz on R7 1700X + 3600Mhz cas 16 on RAM Flare-X
  • My maximum RAM speed I've reached is 3680Mhz : http://hwbot.org/submission/3579148_
Really nice update this Agesa 1.0.0.6..:)
 
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Very nice results ! I have still yet to attempt overclocking the CPU, I'm waiting for proper RAM support for Hynix chips on my board first, as RAM clocks seem to be partially tied to CPU overclocks too.
 

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Hynix dies are not well supported for oc by ryzen...AMD focused on samsung b-die for ram oc..:)
 

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Update 29th June 2017 : Dust Filters usage & new keyboard, mouse & Overclocking Results (Agesa 10.0.0.6)
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Here is a new update regarding my Cerberus-X Build.


Dust Filters Usage
For sure, dust filters are mandatory for me (thanks to my dear cats..:)).
Here is the result after one complete week of computer usage :



Good point is that these dust filters are far less restrictive than Demciflex, and neither fan RPM or CPU/GPU temperature are majorly hurt by using them...best compromise for me! (you will see Overclocking later)

New Keyboard & Mouse
At last I've replaced/upgraded my cheap MSI keyboard & mouse to Logitech Mechanical Keyboard G413 and Pro gaming mouse..:) My only criticism on them will be related, once again, to their software...heavy cumbersome, uncompatible with benches (like hwbot X265 bench) and buggy (I wanted to remove auto start in options...but it didn't work...I was forced to go to msconfig..:D)
Once keyboard & mouse setup is done, just through logitech software to bin..:D Globally gaming & typing experience is WAY better on this keyboard. Even noise is completely fine as I don't press key to bottom. Mouse is impressive in terms of precision...smooth, precise and deadly in game..:D

On their look, here are pictures :



Gorgeous..:D

Overclocking Results (Agesa 10.0.0.6)
As I already shared, I've applied Bios 1401 on my Asus Crosshair VI Hero. Major point of this bios update is AGESA 10.0.0.6 (new micro code for Ryzen CPU).

First of all, you don't need any more blck change to OC RAM, as AGESA 10.0.0.6 unlock RAM multiplier till 4000Mhz+. Of course you still need a bios full of features to OC properly your RAM..:)
Secondly, bclk change proves to be even less stable than before. For example, I'm reaching a stable 4025Mhz OC on cpu core by changing cpu multiplier...whereas 4024Mhz, reached thourgh blck was not stable.
Third point, on same cpu core speed, you need to put more vcore than before

Overclocking Results
Ryzen R7 1700X core :

  • Every day OC : 3900Mhz with vcore @1.40v (in bios) (100% stable)
  • Max reasonible OC : 4000Mhz with vcore @1.45v (100% stable)
  • Overclocking session : 4025Mhz with vcore @1.50v (100% stable) (could be extended to 4050Mhz with vcore @1.50v in several multi threaded benchmark, but not fully stable)
  • Max OC to start Windows and run super pi 32M : 4170Mhz with vcore @1.52v
G. SKill Flare-X 16Go DDR4 : (ram vcore 1.40v)
  • Every day OC : 3467 cas 16-16-16-16-36 (100% stable)
  • Max reasonible OC : 3600Mhz cas 17-17-17-17-37 (mostly stable)
  • Overclocking session : from 3600Mhz cas 16-16-16-16-36 to 3650Mhz cas 16-16-16-16-36 (not stable with all benchmarks, and requires bclk changes that could cause unstable cpu core)
  • Max OC to start Windows : 3680Mhz cas 18-18-18-18-38
All in one, I think my Cerberus-X setup is pretty damn good and deserves to become famous!

By on my experience on Ryzen Overclocking and power consumption, I just can't recommand to put X299 or Threadripper motherboard inside Cerberus-X, because these CPU are requiring hell of cooling...that Cerberus-x can't provide in a reasnible way. For info, a skylake-X core i7 7820X is using as much power as an 4.0Ghz OC Ryzen 7...
Cerberus-x is still a SFF (even if it's with ATX motherboard) and requires some slight compromises..:D
 

MarcParis

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On Ryzen 7 1700X, I'm getting 73°C as max temperature while benchmarking (x265 encoding is the most demanding one)...noctua PPC fans are spinning @1900+ rpm..:D

On GTX 1080 ti : I'm reaching 80°C max under heavy load on Mass Effect Andromeda 4K (depends largely on rendered scene). Max rpm around 2200rpm (with dust filters). Generally I'm having mid 70°c on standard gpu load.
 

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Those temps aren't so bad, I don't see any reason why Threadripper or Skylake-X wouldn't be doable in Cerberus-X.
 

MarcParis

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Now as I guess my HWbot fever is gone for good (thanks their stupid rules against windows 10 and blck motherboard), I'll focus myself on stabilizing my OC.

I experienced one crash (blue screen) @3900Mhz @1.40v (trying currently 1.425v) so I need to investigate and convert time dedicated to HWbot pseudo glory to myself..:D
 
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