S4 MINI Classic (S4M-C)

[Josh | NFC]

Huh. So by my measurement with my single slot pci-e card in bottom slot I have 38mm of space above it, and the Silverstone TD03-SLIM AIO cooler is 37mm high... I'm guessing there might be airflow issues with actually pulling adequate air through that 1mm gap though?

I'm not an expert, these are just my ideas:

You are trying to fit an AIO and a single slot card card? While that might be possible with the RL-TD03-SLIM it would be a hat trick and I would be fascinated to see it.

You are correct though, fans require some space to operate efficiently and quietly, but I'm not sure you will be gaining anything other than "awesome points" for being unique, as that cooler with the slim fan and the restriction probably wont offer you better performance than a nice air cooler. Now if you could put a good high pressure 120mm fan on it, that changes things completely.

Good luck!

 

[vluft]

I'm not an expert, these are just my ideas:

You are trying to fit an AIO and a single slot card card? While that might be possible with the RL-TD03-SLIM it would be a hat trick and I would be fascinated to see it.

You are correct though, fans require some space to operate efficiently and quietly, but I'm not sure you will be gaining anything other than "awesome points" for being unique, as that cooler with the slim fan and the restriction probably wont offer you better performance than a nice air cooler. Now if you could put a good high pressure 120mm fan on it, that changes things completely.

Good luck!

Yeah, ultimately doesn't seem like I'd probably be getting any better performance than a good air cooler but slim lga 2011 coolers are few and far between, especially when you factor in I need to make it work with a narrow ILM mount. What I currently have in there, which fits with no room to spare, is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A21361W/?tag=theminutiae-20 as a heatsink with an 120x18mm fan wedged on top of it (fan pulled from http://www.akasa.com.tw/search.php?seed=AK-CC4011EP01). https://www.dan-cases.com/faq.html at the bottom has a similar build which apparently works and the specs on the fan he's using are pretty similar to the Akasa. Also gets a bit of airflow from the mobo as well, which is nice. I'll test it when I can and see if it works out, though, particularly with the way I'm pulling air through a heatsink that was designed for high horizontal airflow 1u cases.

Basically, if it's not good enough I'll probably at least give that AIO a try - the fan on it is also 15mm so if need be could go to a 12mm one for the extra space. Hopefully the current setup works though, and then I'll just have to figure out what to put in all that glorious extra space (first time somebody's been worried about that with an S4 I bet ).

 

[vluft]

[the bezel]... which can act as a heatsink for the HDPLEX if you butt it against without the velcro which is my standard practice now

How are you mounting that, btw? I like this idea.

 

[|||]

Yep, minimal spacing with the td03-slim. You could possibly modify the fan & radiator to increase the space.

You'd need to lop off the side of the radiator the fan isn't on. This is dead space that is used when a fan is mounted to keep the fan off of the radiator and give some depth for the screw holes.

You'd also want to get the fan as close to the radiator, so you'd want to cut off the corners of the fan on the side that goes against he radiator so you can sit the fan directly on the fins. You'd screw it to the radiator using the holes on the opposite side of the fan. You'd be able to gain several millimeters doing this. Whether it is worth it or not is another question.

 

[Tek Everything]

Yeah, ultimately doesn't seem like I'd probably be getting any better performance than a good air cooler but slim lga 2011 coolers are few and far between, especially when you factor in I need to make it work with a narrow ILM mount. What I currently have in there, which fits with no room to spare, is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A21361W/?tag=theminutiae-20 as a heatsink with an 120x18mm fan wedged on top of it (fan pulled from http://www.akasa.com.tw/search.php?seed=AK-CC4011EP01). https://www.dan-cases.com/faq.html at the bottom has a similar build which apparently works and the specs on the fan he's using are pretty similar to the Akasa. Also gets a bit of airflow from the mobo as well, which is nice. I'll test it when I can and see if it works out, though, particularly with the way I'm pulling air through a heatsink that was designed for high horizontal airflow 1u cases.

Basically, if it's not good enough I'll probably at least give that AIO a try - the fan on it is also 15mm so if need be could go to a 12mm one for the extra space. Hopefully the current setup works though, and then I'll just have to figure out what to put in all that glorious extra space (first time somebody's been worried about that with an S4 I bet ).

I would love to see the temps you get with this set up as I was planning on doing something very similar.

 

[hat1324]

So, I mentioned before that my DC-IN socket on my hdplex fused to the power connector. I was able to just pull it off and replace the connector but the new socket I put in had to be glued to the board with JB-Weld...

Basically I want to know how to prevent this from happening in the future since I won't be able to remove this one

 

[vluft]

I would love to see the temps you get with this set up as I was planning on doing something very similar.

Yup, will let you know. Waiting on PCI-E extender right now so I can test in case but then I'm gonna do some stress testing. I'm really just aiming for "doesn't throttle at max load".

 

[Kmpkt]

Just a thought if you're set on this build config and the tolerances are too small for the AIO. On a previous L1 build I used one of these:

http://www.caselabs-store.com/flex-bay-140-1-140mm-fan-radiator-mount/

to create a punch out for a parallel mounted 750ti LP. Just dremel the side panel and screw it in. Looks pretty decent and would likely give you another few mm/cm of space to reduce your dead zone. Here's the build log so you can get a clearer idea of what I mean:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1505888/build-log-brickless-lone-industries-l1

 

[Josh | NFC]

I'l like to clarify a point in case I biased people wrongly...

CUSTOM liquid cooling seems like it would fit great with the right fittings and tubing. The AIO's don't fit well because the tubing is long, stiff, and thick--there is just no good place to cram it. Find a block+pump combo (or hack up a AIO and mod the fittings) and you should have a nice combo with an EK Vardar fan--which should work with little clearance given it's design.

I'm designing a little reservoir for a side-side-side project so I can liquid cool this APU system I bought for testing and never used...

 

[vluft]

Hmm, even going custom I'm having difficulty visualizing a way to managed to cram a radiator & fan in there, except without any PCI-E card.

 

[|||]

Hmm, even going custom I'm having difficulty visualizing a way to managed to cram a radiator & fan in there, except without any PCI-E card.

No PCI-e card is what he is talking about with the use of an APU with integrated graphics.

 

[Josh | NFC]

Hmm, even going custom I'm having difficulty visualizing a way to managed to cram a radiator & fan in there, except without any PCI-E card.

Yeah I mean if you forfeit your slots >.<

 

[vluft]

Ahh, right, yeah. If only they'd make a Xeon with an Iris on it I'd be happy, heh. Or just a regular proc with ECC support.

 

[|||]

Like the Xeon E3 v5? They need to be used with C232 or C236 chipsets.

 

[vluft]

yup, though I haven't seen any motherboards integrating those yet. Supermicro has one coming I believe but with only DDR3 ergo only 32gb of ram.

 

[|||]

There are some, you just need to look in the enterprise/commercial sections.

http://b2b.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5664#ov
http://server.msi.com/en/product/#chipset=intel-c232/c236&category=motherboard&pid=3582&tab=overview

 

[vluft]

Yeah, though they don't include any video output which is odd for something specifically with e3 v5 support. I guess they figure if people use that at all they'll use it for compute? And there's also e3 v5 with no integrated I guess.

 

[|||]

Yeah, I didn't pay too close attention They do have VGA (ha!) and you could run a USB monitor

 

[Josh | NFC]

Last Cast Iron Black is shipped. All out of Mini's until I get the next and final black in, as well as Skyreach Blue:

 

[flacman]

Last Cast Iron Black is shipped. All out of Mini's until I get the next and final black in, as well as Skyreach Blue:

Is that mine? ;D