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Completed Project Jolokia - Tiny but potent

Boil

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I'm considering adding screw holes on that side for the exterior shell that the feet could use too, but I haven't decided yet.
That's true, I'm just a sucker for symmetry so I like the idea of the feet being able to attach to all 4 sides :p

Well, if you are going to make it so feet can be attached to the solid side, I would definitely go for those, they do look pretty good…!
 

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@Aibohphobia

Any chance we could see a render of the horizontal configuration, but with vented side up…?!?

Thanks if yes, no worries if no…!
 

Boil

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Nice…! No feet so you gotta run it horizontal right now…?

So, do you ave the fans on the CPU cooler blowing towards or away from the MB…?

And were the Grados already there, or did you want to show us some headphone bling…?!? ;^p

TY…!
 

jeshikat

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I just removed the feet and set it on its side. I normally have it vertical to save desk space.

Fan is blowing toward the motherboard.

The headphones are for scale. They're decent but I only brought them because they didn't take up much space in my suitcase, I miss my Beyerdynamic DT 880s :(
 

Boil

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Gotcha on the feet…

Are they the feet as pictured in the renders, or…?

Because those are some damned sexy feet…!

(…no, I do not have a foot fetish…)

So, if placed as pictured, if installed 'top' & 'bottom' fans are set as intake; opinion on setting the NH-L12 fan(s) to blow away from the MB…?

TY…!
 

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Boil

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(…no, I do not have a foot fetish…)

Whatever you say :p


Probably exhaust, but it depends on what parts are installed.

I would be keeping it modest, a Hackintosh running Logic Pro X; of which single track recording & editing of audio does not need a lot of horsepower…

Nor does WoW…

This is what I would cram into this chassis, if I could be lucky enough to get my hands on one…!

ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming-ITX/AC motherboard (because only ITX MB with Thunderbolt, to my knowledge & EXTENSIVE research, by which I mean looking on NewEgg…)
Intel i5 7600 CPU (possibly de-lidded for additional Cool Running…)
Noctua NH-L12 with lower 92mm fan only (set to blow away from MB)
16GB DDR4 2400/CAS14 RAM (2@8GB sticks)
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD
Zotac GTX 1050TI LP GPU w/4GB RAM (de-shrouded & de-fanned)
Two (2) NF-A9x14s in the 'top' position set to intake
Two (2) NF-A9x14s in the 'bottom' position set to intake (hopefully connected to the GPU, so the GPU cools itself as needed)
HDPlex 300w AC-DC unit & 300w DC-ATX, with custom 24-pin MB & 8-pin CPU cables (all that would be needed…!)

So, not a whole lot of heat generating horsepower. PCPartsPicker states 221w for the listed hardware, and I would think real world day-to-day would probably be pushing 150w or so, maybe peaking around 175w or so playing WoW…?

I think my hypothetical airflow configuration should be more than enough cooling to keep all the fans running slow & quiet when in recording mode…?
 
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jeshikat

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That should work.

Probably not necessary to delid the CPU if you're not overclocking with the NH-L12.

I'm not sure if the Zotac will fit. The heatsink on it looks taller than the MSI and the MSI doesn't have much room to spare with the shroud removed and two NF-A9x14 fans on the bracket.
 

Boil

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That should work.

Probably not necessary to delid the CPU if you're not overclocking with the NH-L12.

I'm not sure if the Zotac will fit. The heatsink on it looks taller than the MSI and the MSI doesn't have much room to spare with the shroud removed and two NF-A9x14 fans on the bracket.

Not NECESSARY, but if it helps drop temps a bit, thereby dropping fan rotation, thereby dropping overall noise…?

If the Zotac heatsink were too tall, to the mill with it…! Custom cut the fins to fit just so…?

Could make for a solid HackMini Pro…!
 

jeshikat

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You could just adjust the fan profile in the BIOS. Sacrificing temp for lower RPMs doesn't hurt the CPU as long as it's below the TJ Max.

Ah, it's the GALAX I was thinking of since the fans are recessed into the heatsink on it, the Zotac may fit (but I can't guarantee it without measurements).
 
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Finally got around to taking pictures of my Jolokia prototype! This setup (minus the Noctua slim 120mm) is what I took with me on the plane to Japan and then Taiwan.



Specs:
  • Intel Xeon E5-2683 v3 (2.0GHz base/3.0GHz turbo 14-core/28-thread)
  • ASRock X99E-ITX/ac
  • 2x16GB Crucial CT16G4XFD824A DDR4 ECC VLP
  • Noctua NH-L12 w/ custom mounting brackets for LGA2011 Narrow ILM
  • Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM
  • MSI GTX 1050 Ti LP (with stock shroud and fans removed)
  • 2x Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM
  • Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
  • FSP FSP500-50FSPT 500W FlexATX


Some would say it's a pretty boring looking case, I call it minimalistic design.


I was carrying the case and banged it into a door frame, which is where the dent at the top came from.


The feet are attached with screws to extra threads in the fan bracket.


Those screws are silver because the ones I had weren't quite long enough so I bought some longer ones from a hardware store in Japan.


Excuse the messy wire bundle, I didn't have time before leaving to do much with the harness.


After undoing some screws the wraparound panel slides off from the frame. It's a bit difficult though because I miscalculated the clearance for the powder coating.


You can see the scuffs on the inside of the panel due to the lack of clearance.


Here's a good view of the internal layout. The FlexATX is mounted against the front, and I have the MSI GTX 1050 Ti LP configured with two Noctua slim 92mm fans on the bottom fan bracket to cool it instead of the whiny stock fans.


Aforementioned fan bracket.


The bracket can slide out from the frame even with the fans attached.


The MSI only has a 2-pin fan header, so I have them both plugged into one of the motherboard's fan headers using a splitter.


The front panel removed to show off the FSP FSP500-50FSPT FlexATX. It's surprisingly quiet at idle, and not too terribly noisy up to 200W load or so.


Gotta love how simple M.2 makes things since you don't need any extra cables or space inside the chassis.


My custom brackets to mount the NH-L12 to this board worked out really well.


There are two brackets, so the feet can be attached to the "top" of the case for a flipped orientation.


The holes for the side panel match so the feet can be installed on that side as well. This way the case can be horizontal without just laying it on the non-vented side.

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I then put the case back to standing vertically with the feet on the GPU side. Ambient room temperature right now is 28°C.

With a dozen tabs open the CPU is 45°C-48°C (depending on the core) with the CPU fan at ~730 RPM.

After 10 minutes of Prime and FurMark the CPU is 73°C-75°C with the CPU fan at 1250 RPM. The GTX 1050 Ti leveled off at 84°C with the two Noctua 92mm slims at 830 RPM (I set a fixed speed for that header in the BIOS).

Noise is not too bad really, but the system isn't silent by any means at this load due to this FSP500-50FSPT FlexATX.

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Overall, Project Jolokia fulfilled its purpose of fitting a HEDT workstation into my carry-on luggage on an international flight. Noise is surprisingly good at idle despite using FlexATX instead of the originally planned HDPLEX 300W combo, noise at load is another matter but still not that bad, and temps are below TJ Max.

With all 2mm aluminum construction, the assembled system ended up a fair bit heavier than I planned though. Which with the 7kg carry-on weight limit on some airlines made packing a bit tricky, and my checked bag had to be stuffed to the brim to compensate.

I also found that FlexATX has potential even for low-noise builds, but Jolokia is bigger than it strictly needs to be for FlexATX because it was originally designed for the 300W HDPLEX DC-ATX and AC-DC combo. It's also a bit on the fat side for a LP GPU-only case since I had to made the case wide enough to fit the NH-L12.

These issues could perhaps be fixed with varying degrees of success, but I really want to design a case around the SilverStone NJ450-SXL next. So I am declaring the Jolokia Project concluded.

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I do have 4 cases from the prototype run that need a home though, so PM me if you're interested. $475 + shipping.

They'll come with a FlexATX bracket, DC-ATX plate (intended as a mounting spot for the HDPLEX at the front of the frame), and feet. Handle and 16mm anti-vandal switch are NOT included.
 
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Phuncz

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Awesomely tiny workstation ! I can only begin to imagine the X299 and X370 workstations people will be able to build in these !
 
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Awesomely tiny workstation ! I can only begin to imagine the X299 and X370 workstations people will be able to build in these !
I was going to comment about the limited options for half-height cards before realizing that the people who go with those HEDT boards and processors for workstation use probably only want them for the practical benefits of more cores on the machine and wouldn't be well served by a more powerful graphics card.

*Sigh*

What is a "balanced" build anyway? Build for your usage scenario, folks! :)
 

Phuncz

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I was going to comment about the limited options for half-height cards before realizing that the people who go with those HEDT boards and processors for workstation use probably only want them for the practical benefits of more cores on the machine and wouldn't be well served by a more powerful graphics card.

*Sigh*

What is a "balanced" build anyway? Build for your usage scenario, folks! :)
The case doesn't seem to be designed for serious gaming or an "all-purpose" scenario that includes it. Though some lesser demanding games will undoubtibly be possible.

But for a portable workstation with some very light 3D usage, I'm sure it'll do just fine.
 

robbee

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My favourite case on here so far. Such a smart design and the proportions are just perfect. Well done!

Curious though, what made you go with the FlexATX in the end?
 

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Great job man, and an impressively fast turn-around too. Love some of the details in the frame architecture and love the sliding core concept. Looking forward to what you come up with next :thumb:
 
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