Discussion Performance per litre - Round 4

[SFFMunkee]

Here it is! I need to get some more exactly measurements but I believe it’s 4.0L

What’s our methodology? CineBench R23 and TimeSpy?

I scored 8 372 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 5 5600G, NVIDIA RTX A2000 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[candydonzs]

I am waiting on a new GPU & a new chassis, then I will get in on this round of action...!!!

 

[Boil]

What’s our methodology? CineBench R23 and TimeSpy?

TimeSpy more gaming/fps-oriented, Octane for a more compute-oriented comparison...?

I am waiting on a new GPU & a new chassis, then I will get in on this round of action...!!!

What chassis...?

 

[petricor]

Here's the score for my 2023 project - still tweaking a few things, I think I may be able to take this a bit further with some CPU undervolting, but for now I'm rather happy with where this lands:

CPU	R9 7950X3D
GPU	4090 FE
Case	Skyreach 4 Mini
Volume	5.0l*
Cinebench R23 Multi-Core, 30 minutes	34,565
Cinebench R20 Multi-Core (I'm nostalgic)	13,951
TimeSpy Graphics Score	33,304
OctaneBench	1336.61
Round 4 PPL Score​ (34,565*33,304)/(5^1.5)/100	1,029,622​
Round 4 Compute Score​ (34,565*1336.61)/(5^1.5)/100	41,322​

...looks like that's more than double the PPL and Compute score of my previous build!

CB 23, 30 mins:

Cb 20 (just for reference):

Time Spy:

Octane Bench:

*NB that for benchmarking I have replaced the custom heatsink bezel I have designed for this build with the standard S4M faceplate (see photo - that's the configuration I have benchmarked it in) - the heatsink bezel contributes somewhat to temperature control and thus performance, this, however, is overcompensated by the 0.26l of bounding box volume the fins add to the build: Bottom line, it scores better without it:

 

[msystems]

Over 1 million??? Ok, I think you win... unless Gury comes back with his insane 3l Epyc project

 

[SFFMunkee]

/ all bow down before petricor and his liliputian monster

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

I suggest that we rename PPL into Petricor Performance Level.

We could also mesure performance per liter in Petricors now. This new unofficial unit is measured in points per liter.

Current value for a Petricor is 205,924.4 pts/L (i.e. 1,029,622 pts ÷ 5L).

Of course, only @petricor is allowed to change the value of a Petricor . Any objection ?

 

[Phuncz]

It's off the scale

 

[steelfractal]

 

[CubanLegend]

what does the PPL 4 scoreboard look like now? Amazing build @petricor You've inspired my new build, hopefully coming soon, once the 4080 Super is released

 

[articnova]

Hope people don't mind me necro-ing this thread!

So obviously I don't see anyone beating @petricor's score however ever since coming across @REVOCCASES thinkstation tiny build I've been obsessed with getting my own. So below are my scores for my P3 Tiny.

Case	Lenovo P3 Tiny (1.2L - 37mm x 182mm x 179mm)
Brick	Lenovo 170W Workstation AC Adapter (0.25L - 150mm x 77mm x 22mm)
CPU	Intel 13900
GPU	RTX A2000
Cinebench R23 Multi-Core	20126
TimeSpy Graphics Score	6682
Round 4 PPL Score (20126*6682)/(1.45^1.5)/100	770,214

Hoping for a faster/reasonably priced single slot alternative in the near future!!

Cinebench 23 - 30mins

TimeSpy

** EDIT

Whoops forgot to share an image of the P3 Tiny. Also massive thanks to @REVOCCASES for helping me get the single slot cooler for the A2000 and answering my questions!

 

[chinevo]

Hi all. It's time for a new record

Case	Minisforum EM780 with custom 3D printed panels - 0.198L (80mm x 80mm x 31mm)
Brick	Xiaomi Mi 65W GaN Charger - 0.053L (30.8mm x 30.8mm x 56.3mm) The included power supply is slightly larger - 0.087L (54mm x 54mm x 30mm)
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 7840U
GPU	AMD Radeon 780M
Cinebench R23 Multi-Core	12,775
TimeSpy Graphics Score	2,688
Round 4 PPL Score (12775 * 2688) / ((0.198 + 0.053) ^ 1.5) / 100	2,730,735

Cinebench 23 - 30mins:

TimeSpy:

More photos:

 

[SFFMunkee]

Hi all. It's time for a new record

Case	Minisforum EM780 - 0.256L (80mm x 80mm x 40mm) Next week it will be 0.211L (80mm x 80mm x 33mm) with custom 3D printed panels
Brick	Xiaomi Mi 65W GaN Charger (0.053L - 30.8mm x 30.8mm x 56.3mm) The included power supply is slightly larger - 0.087L (54mm x 54mm x 30mm)
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 7840U
GPU	AMD Radeon 780M
Cinebench R23 Multi-Core	12,775
TimeSpy Graphics Score	2,688
Round 4 PPL Score (12775*2688)/((0.256+0.053)^1.5)/100	1,999,182

Cinebench 23 - 30mins:

TimeSpy:

More photos:
EM780 - Imgur

Oh daaaaaamn just going the other way with that. Love it - show us pictures of the 3D printed case!

 

[dc443]

I want to see a sub 0.5L APU build once the 256-bit memory APUs drop. Those things *are* coming, right?

ahh I dunno, who am I kidding, probably once that drops in a GPD style laptop (12 inch maybe, OLED high refresh with VRR please) that will be my ticket.

 

[chinevo]

Current results of the 4th round:

Place	Score	Link	Volume (with brick), L	CPU	GPU
#1	2,730,735	chinevo	0.25	AMD 7840U	AMD 780M
#2	1,915,262	guryhwa	2.69	AMD EPYC 7742	RTX 3070
#3	1,118,692	valentine	3.3	AMD 7950X3D	RTX 4080 Super
#4	1,029,622	petricor	5.00	AMD 7950X3D	RTX 4090
#5	770,214	articnova	1.45	Intel 13900	RTX A2000
#6	504,016	petricor	5.00	AMD 5950x	RTX 3090
#7	419,894	AURMEND	4.35	AMD 3950x	RTX 3070
#8	374,244	REVOCCASES	3.62	AMD 7940HS	RTX 4070
#9	272,396	REVOCCASES	1.45	Intel 11700T	RTX A2000
#10	141,943	hereforthefeast	6.17	AMD 3900X	RTX 3070
#11	136,524	msystems	1.57	AMD 5700G	AMD Vega8
#12	127,017	dannycpham	4.99	AMD 5950X	RTX 3070
#13	114,540	Goatee	1.99	Intel 9600K	RTX A2000
#14	102,725	SFFMunkee	5.34	AMD 5600G	RTX 4060
#15	98,795	confusis	2.06	AMD 8600G	AMD 760M
#16	73,738	msystems	2.27	AMD 5700G	AMD Vega8
#17	70,696	Diamorif	3.96	AMD 3900	RTX 2070
#18	55,551	Damascus	3.30	Intel 6700	GTX 1070
#19	52,695	CubanLegend	4.20	Intel 7700K	GTX 1080
#20	23,754	timginter	8.51	AMD 3500X	RTX 2070
#21	14,339	aromachi	5.67	AMD 1600	GTX 1660 Ti

 

[SFFMunkee]

Alright alright I’ll post mine, but it won’t be good

I know I can do better on these but I'm happily running on my daily silent profile now and CBF tweaking for more power/heat/noise for a few extra points.

Case	REVOCCASES N0RDR1 Nano Evo
Dimensions (W x D x H)	92 x 225 x 258 mm
Volume (B)	5.34 Litres
CPU	Ryzen 5 5600G
GPU	Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP
CineBench R23 Multicore (A)	11,307
TimeSpy Graphics (B)	11,211
Calculation	(11307x11211) / (5.34x1.5) / 100 = 158,255 (11307x11211) / (5.34^1.5) / 100 = 102,725
Round 4 PPL Score (AxB)/(V^1.5)/100	102,725

 

[chinevo]

Oh daaaaaamn just going the other way with that. Love it - show us pictures of the 3D printed case!

The new size is 0.198L (80x80x31)
The new PPL score is (12775 * 2688) / ((0.198 + 0.053) ^ 1.5) / 100 = 2,730,735

The first revision 1 of the 3D panels here:

 

[SFFMunkee]

The new size is 0.198L (80x80x31)
The new PPL score is (12775 * 2688) / ((0.198 + 0.053) ^ 1.5) / 100 = 2,730,735

The first revision 1 of the 3D panels here:

Maaaan I want one

::EDIT:: Ah shit I realised I did my calculation wrong too.

I had (11307x11211) / (5.34x1.5) / 100
126,762,777 / 8.01 / 100 = 158,255

It should be: (11307x11211) / (5.34^1.5) / 100 =
126,762,777 / 12.34 / 100 = 102,725.9 pts

Pretty significant whoopsie sorry all

 

[BaK]

The new PPL score is (12775 * 2688) / ((0.198 + 0.053) ^ 1.5) / 100 = 2,730,735

Congrats, impressive scoring!

How quiet is this tiny thing?

Next week it will be 0.198L (80mm x 80mm x 31mm) with custom 3D printed panels

What you did is keeping the inner stock casing and replacing the top and bottom panels with thinner ones, right?
Did you have to get rid of something for that?

Accessories: 65W GaN Type-C power adapter
The EM780's power solution features a 65W GaN Type-C power adapter, contributing to the system's minimalistic design. This adapter allows for the use of any 65W PD USB to power the device. GaN technology also reduces heat generation and enhances energy efficiency at maximum power delivery, compared to traditional power adapters.

source: https://www.techradar.com/pro/minisforum-mercury-em780-review

No DC barrel here, GaN USB-C charger fully compatible with this board.
USB-C 5A limit is respected with this low power 65W, but what about the problem with the USB Power Delivery reported earlier with such Gan chargers?
Does the board have an integrated 'USB-PD dummy trigger PCB'?
What do you guys think, @msystems, @SFFMunkee ?

 

[msystems]

It appears to have native usb-pd input like some laptops do, so it should work with most pd chargers