Production Modultra LOBO: Direct die kit gauging interest.
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Sorry for letting you wait...I was going through a lot of work and was completely overloaded and standing under a lot of preasure by myself. Sorry to @Alloy Craft for not posting anything yet. But here are my picture of my Intel i9-12900K delidded and with some Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal applied already. The Modultra Lobo in this prototype was bare copper and needed first a application to soak in the liquid metal and make a own barrier and then I reapplied the liquid metal for the final fitment.
It worked out all great and the temperatures went down arround 7°C in the benchmarks (like cinebench and others, compared to stock) but with 280mm Radiator (45mm thick) they settle in prime95 after nearly 60min. at 97°C both with and without delid. So I would argue that in the daily workflow and gaming its cooler by a fair bit.
I will release some charts / diagrams with my review video, but that may take 1-2 weeks. For now I wanted to share that information with you guys! <3 Have a greeat weekend!
It worked out all great and the temperatures went down arround 7°C in the benchmarks (like cinebench and others, compared to stock) but with 280mm Radiator (45mm thick) they settle in prime95 after nearly 60min. at 97°C both with and without delid. So I would argue that in the daily workflow and gaming its cooler by a fair bit.
I will release some charts / diagrams with my review video, but that may take 1-2 weeks. For now I wanted to share that information with you guys! <3 Have a greeat weekend!
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I've just put my order in for a new build! A quick question - can other DDC pumps be used (4.2 or others?), I'm having a hard time sourcing a PWM 3.1 DDC...sorry if it has been covered, didn't see it in my skim of all the pages.
Edit: my main option is a DDC310 from alphacool, it does not have PWM but appears to be silent from reviews and postings at 100% flow...
Edit: my main option is a DDC310 from alphacool, it does not have PWM but appears to be silent from reviews and postings at 100% flow...
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@Alloy Craft Hello! Are there any updates? I'm hoping to be able to purchase one of these by the end of summer.
Finally just posted my build using the LOBO. It's a bit on the crazy unconventional and impractical side, but hope someone finds it interesting.
Would be happy to test an AM5 version of this :-) 7950X and 7900X delidded and ready to go
Hey Guys! I have another one for you.
This time the Modultra LOBO by @Alloy Craft was used inside the SSUPD Meshroom S with two different Radiator Setups. Both 280mm, but one XT45 with Slim Fans (Arctic P14) and the ST30 Radiator with regular 25mm Fans.
It was tested with a ton of heat to dissipate! (Intel Core i9-12900K)
Hope you like the video:
I have another one for you.This time the Modultra LOBO by @Alloy Craft was used inside the SSUPD Meshroom S with two different Radiator Setups. Both 280mm, but one XT45 with Slim Fans (Arctic P14) and the ST30 Radiator with regular 25mm Fans.
It was tested with a ton of heat to dissipate! (Intel Core i9-12900K)
Hope you like the video:
Thanks a lot for these tests!
As said in the Youtube comments, it would have been interesting to see the comparison with the combo of a thin ST30 rad and slim P14 fans.
It would probably be the worst setup of the three, but how bad would have been a nice info to get for us SFFers!
As said in the Youtube comments, it would have been interesting to see the comparison with the combo of a thin ST30 rad and slim P14 fans.
It would probably be the worst setup of the three, but how bad would have been a nice info to get for us SFFers!
Nice work, thanks again Victor.Hey Guys!
This time the Modultra LOBO by @Alloy Craft was used inside the SSUPD Meshroom S with two different Radiator Setups. Both 280mm, but one XT45 with Slim Fans (Arctic P14) and the ST30 Radiator with regular 25mm Fans.
It was tested with a ton of heat to dissipate! (Intel Core i9-12900K)
Hope you like the video:
@Alloy Craft
What are the differences in height between all the pump covers when mounted to the LOBO? normal, conductor, slammer.
Also, what are the differences in pump temp when pump mounted to brass body between all the three covers.
Finally, niquel platting is really something I would like to have as an option. I ordered a 7950X3D that I will be deliding and direct die it to the LOBO and while I am resigned to re-apply the liquid metal from time to time, lapping the LOBO coldplate in the process, to remove the oxidated copper, I would love to have a niquel plated option that removes this issue from me.
Better than this would be a direct die cold plate for AM5 CPU's!
What are the differences in height between all the pump covers when mounted to the LOBO? normal, conductor, slammer.
Also, what are the differences in pump temp when pump mounted to brass body between all the three covers.
Finally, niquel platting is really something I would like to have as an option. I ordered a 7950X3D that I will be deliding and direct die it to the LOBO and while I am resigned to re-apply the liquid metal from time to time, lapping the LOBO coldplate in the process, to remove the oxidated copper, I would love to have a niquel plated option that removes this issue from me.
Better than this would be a direct die cold plate for AM5 CPU's!
Here is a drawing showing all our heatsink options and their heights. All heatsinks on brass block saw around 45 degree reduction in pump temps vs a plastic pump block. All the heatsink thermal testing data is on page 5. I do have some nickel plated cold plates but they are b grade. I do hope to get more done in nickel eventually, however it is proving difficult to find a plater that can do good work.
Many thanks. This is exactly what I wanted to know regarding temps and height. So the slammer makes the thing about 3mm less tall and still good thermal performance. I will get it instead of any of the others.
Regarding the nickel plated ones, what you mean by b-grade? If they are fine I can get one of those if they are for sale. Maybe I would leave a note on the order?
Regarding the nickel plated ones, what you mean by b-grade? If they are fine I can get one of those if they are for sale. Maybe I would leave a note on the order?
Also, if you want to give it a shot at designing a direct die cold plate for the AM5 socket I will happily buy a prototype and test it for you. The only difference in design would probably be the height of the cold plate to account for the removal of the heat spreader and also make the copper a bit thicker to allow for extra thermal mass to dissipate heat from the cores. Der Bauer explains this a bit on a video he posted about making is direct die block.
Forgot to share, just recently posted another build where I got to use the LOBO acetal version. I don't think I could've fit any other pump block combo in there, this product truly is the holy grail of mini-ITX!
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I had mine chemically nickel plated. ~10 micron layer.
some photos attached.
I will now sand it with 7000 grit sand paper and then polish it for a mirror finish.
In hindsight, I should have done this before the plating.
some photos attached.
I will now sand it with 7000 grit sand paper and then polish it for a mirror finish.
In hindsight, I should have done this before the plating.
Plating looks pretty good, you mind sharing who did it for you?I had mine chemically nickel plated. ~10 micron layer.
some photos attached.
I will now sand it with 7000 grit sand paper and then polish it for a mirror finish.
In hindsight, I should have done this before the plating.
It was the Portuguese branch of this company:
Home - Standex Engraving Mold-Tech
www.mold-tech.com
I think I am going to order an extra cold plate from your website and polish the copper surface to mirror finish before nickel plating and then see if it makes any meaningful difference when used in a direct die scenario.
LOBO direct die kits are in stock ready to ship.
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