Completed Lone Industries L5 - 4.6L Mini ITX

[Lone]

@Lone - I did but I wanted to start with a newer chipset. I've already got the Asus X570-I from my other build that didn't go to plan.

Okay, I understand. Always good to use what you have! I think you should be fine with the NH-L9a. Please let us know how it goes.

Anyone know if the NHL12S fits the Asrock X570 board in this case?

After looking at the photos @Analogue Blacksheep posted in the other thread, I don't think it will fit in the orientation that you would want in the L5 at least. Maybe with it hanging over the DIMM slots?

 

[Windfall]

Okay, I understand. Always good to use what you have! I think you should be fine with the NH-L9a. Please let us know how it goes.



After looking at the photos @Analogue Blacksheep posted in the other thread, I don't think it will fit in the orientation that you would want in the L5 at least. Maybe with it hanging over the DIMM slots?

Corsair Vengeance LPX should be LP enough, right? What's the recommended orientation?

 

[Lone]

Corsair Vengeance LPX should be LP enough, right? What's the recommended orientation?

Maybe. Recommended orientation is with the bent heatpipes on the top/right side of the case. Hanging over the DIMM slots, it will likely interfere with the plugin DC-ATX.

 

[Windfall]

Maybe. Recommended orientation is with the bent heatpipes on the top/right side of the case. Hanging over the DIMM slots, it will likely interfere with the plugin DC-ATX.

I was going to get a small internal AC-DC like @fabio did, and the matching DC-ATX unit. Maybe if I cut the wattage on the DC-ATX from 300 to 250, he can cut some height off...

How short do you think it would need to be? 20mm off the top of the 24 Pin connector?

 

[Windfall]

Here's an Idea: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...1.0&pvid=4b9e7282-2041-4f24-aa81-86f7ad2bf6ef

 

[August]

Here's an Idea: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...1.0&pvid=4b9e7282-2041-4f24-aa81-86f7ad2bf6ef

I wager the combined overhang of this adapter and the “height” of the DC-ATX (horizontally positioned) will be greater than the allowed space at the front of the case. If you do need to relocate the DC-DC PSU, your best bet is probably to get a short 24-pin extension/ribbon cable and put the unit somewhere else entirely?

 

[Windfall]

I wager the combined overhang of this adapter and the “height” of the DC-ATX (horizontally positioned) will be greater than the allowed space at the front of the case. If you do need to relocate the DC-DC PSU, your best bet is probably to get a short 24-pin extension/ribbon cable and put the unit somewhere else entirely?

I just realized that after I posted. The Hack's M2427 should do the job, I'll add it to my parts list.

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

I'm currently mulling between two options for my Lone L5 X570 build.

My workflow is photo and vector editing with "light" gaming. I often work on projects that involve large file sizes with many assets.

Option 1: The safe traditional option

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£183.18 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Boot/Games Drive: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£250.37 @ More Computers)
Project/Scratch Drive: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£250.37 @ More Computers)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GAMING Low Profile Video Card (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1072.05

Pros: Dedicated GPU, access to higher end CPU's, less risk, better GPU would help with light video editing and "light" gaming
Cons: More heat, more power, more noise, less storage, the scratch drive is not separate

Option 2: The risky APU option

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£137.58 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Scratch Drive: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
Boot/Games Drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£199.50 @ Aria PC)
Project/Archive Drive: Samsung PM1725b HHHL 3.2TB PCI Express 3.0 AIC (£884.22 @ Lambda Tek)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1,599.43

Pros: The simplicity of an APU, low power, less noise, insane levels of enterprise storage, scratch drive is seperate, able to access huge project files and RAW images very quickly.
Cons: The simplicity of an APU, banking on the rumours of a possible 8 core APU (risky), 3400G is only PCIe 3.0 x8, sacrificing GPU power for faster storage (Although Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc, does not take much advantage of GPU), enterprise cost of AIC card

 

[fabio]

I'm currently mulling between two options for my Lone L5 X570 build.

My workflow is photo and vector editing with "light" gaming. I often work on projects that involve large file sizes with many assets.

Option 1: The safe traditional option

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£183.18 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Boot/Games Drive: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£250.37 @ More Computers)
Project/Scratch Drive: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£250.37 @ More Computers)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GAMING Low Profile Video Card (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1072.05

Pros: Dedicated GPU, access to higher end CPU's, less risk, better GPU would help with light video editing and "light" gaming
Cons: More heat, more power, more noise, less storage, the scratch drive is not separate

Option 2: The risky APU option

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor (£137.58 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler (£51.40 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Scratch Drive: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
Boot/Games Drive: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£199.50 @ Aria PC)
Project/Archive Drive: Samsung PM1725b HHHL 3.2TB PCI Express 3.0 AIC (£884.22 @ Lambda Tek)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.02 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1,599.43

Pros: The simplicity of an APU, low power, less noise, insane levels of enterprise storage, scratch drive is seperate, able to access huge project files and RAW images very quickly.
Cons: The simplicity of an APU, banking on the rumours of a possible 8 core APU (risky), 3400G is only PCIe 3.0 x8, sacrificing GPU power for faster storage (Although Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc, does not take much advantage of GPU), enterprise cost of AIC card

Well, the 1650 will not even saturate the x8!
Do you have a budget limit?
Because of the video editing you can check also a 3700x, still a 65w CPU but with more cores and raw power.
For archive you can even check the 860 QLC 4TB from Samsung
And I suggest the l12s, way better cooking performance, better noise/more silent, and just a bit more expensive!

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

@fabio - Is there enough room to mount a 2.5 somewhere, while keeping the front fans? Also the reason why I'm not sure about going with a L12s is because I'm afraid it will interfere with the heatsink.

 

[August]

@fabio - Is there enough room to mount a 2.5 somewhere, while keeping the front fans? Also the reason why I'm not sure about going with a L12s is because I'm afraid it will interfere with the heatsink.

The website lists support for a 2.5” drive at the top of the case. I suspect if your cooler extends beyond the top of the motherboard, it would interfere, but I don’t know that the L12s is big enough to worry about it!

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

@August - I did not realise you can mount a 2.5 on top of the case!

Does anyone have any photos of this?

 

[fabio]

Well, than get the L9x65! It’s still better, and I love it because keep everything accessible!

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

How is this?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TCm48M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£301.97 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 CPU Cooler (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Currently owned)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Scratch Storage: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
Boot/Games Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£199.50 @ Aria PC)
Project/Archive Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£544.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GAMING Low Profile Video Card (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.10 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.10 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1568.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-27 11:12 BST+0100

£1500 would be my rough limit for the remaining parts. The TDP of that build is 249W

Also would the top 2.5 SSD cover the vent above the CPU cooler?

 

[fabio]

How is this?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TCm48M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£301.97 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 CPU Cooler (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard (Currently owned)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£158.70 @ CCL Computers)
Scratch Storage: Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
Boot/Games Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£199.50 @ Aria PC)
Project/Archive Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£544.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GAMING Low Profile Video Card (£149.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.10 @ Amazon UK)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A8 PWM 32.66 CFM 80 mm Fan (£14.10 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1568.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-27 11:12 BST+0100

£1500 would be my rough limit for the remaining parts. The TDP of that build is 249W

Also would the top 2.5 SSD cover the vent above the CPU cooler?

Is a super nice build!!
The TDP is just indicative, the system will never draw so much all together!
Which PSU are using?

BTW, about the SSD, actually there is no openings on top, so it doesn’t change anything for the cooler!

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

@fabio - HDPLEX 200W DC-ATX with a Dell brick (possibly 330W for headroom and future expansion). @Lone mentioned the DC-ATX unit can work at 250W with active cooling which sold me on the concept. Also the fact that my ASUS X570-i did not work with my ZS-A4DC and that case, as much as I love it, is an utter pain to work with.

 

[Windfall]

Well, than get the L9x65! It’s still better, and I love it because keep everything accessible!

You think that will work on the asrock x570 board with zero interference?

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

@Windfall - The L9ix65 is on the cooler compatible list.

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Intel Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax (2.4Gbps) + BT 5.2; Intel Gigabit LAN; Supports DDR4 4533+ (OC); 1 PCIe 4.0 x16; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec); Supports Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5; 4...

www.asrock.com

In regards to the L9ix65, how bad is the turbulence noise? I noticed there were concerns about it earlier in the thread.

 

[fabio]

@Windfall - The L9ix65 is on the cooler compatible list.

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen™ 2000, 3000, 4000 G-Series, 5000 and 5000 G-Series Desktop Processors; Intel Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax (2.4Gbps) + BT 5.2; Intel Gigabit LAN; Supports DDR4 4533+ (OC); 1 PCIe 4.0 x16; 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec); Supports Creative Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5; 4...

www.asrock.com

In regards to the L9ix65, how bad is the turbulence noise? I noticed there were concerns about it earlier in the thread.

Yes, it will work with it, but you need to buy not the SE! Btw, starting from 2019 Noctua sell the l9x65 also with the am4 kit.

about the turbolence there is no problem, it’s far 6mm or a bit more from the side!

the HDPLEX peaks at 250, but is not for a continue job. But trust in me, you will never reach that wattage!Even using the CPU at max with the GPU you will stay under 200w!

 

[Windfall]

Yes, it will work with it, but you need to buy not the SE! Btw, starting from 2019 Noctua sell the l9x65 also with the am4 kit.

about the turbolence there is no problem, it’s far 6mm or a bit more from the side!

the HDPLEX peaks at 250, but is not for a continue job. But trust in me, you will never reach that wattage!Even using the CPU at max with the GPU you will stay under 200w!

Well, I can get the SE for 5 cents cheaper, soooooo....