Be careful with compatibility though, I have read many failure on different forum threads with people trying to change/upgrade an LCD panel.
Again, aesthetic is something personal and subjective that noone is allowed to criticize ! Both op and what I linked aren't notebook. Let's be honest, it is too thick to be considered a notebook, has no battery so is not considered as nomad .... It is a desktop computer with a keyboard and a foldable screen in place of its top panel, period.
What got me triggered was the "first in the world" that I couldn't allow as a moderator.
Now .... MODERATOR MODE OFF ...
I still think the "notebook" mode is not usable for serious use and the rotated screen + external keyboard doesn't solve anything as you'll have I/O and cables facing you.
It looks like aesthetic was the sole consideration. It is too sick too be serioysls considered as a notebook (and it has no battery). It is even thick than rugged industrial laptop that people hate. It takes more desktop space than an S4 + 60% keyboard + screen and I can predict worse cooling and quietness.
But above everything, I have a real concern about thermals. I might be mistaken but from the render the MB look like being flipped upside down, with heatsink being below it. If this is the case, I can see the CPU burning to its death.
This is how heatpipe coolers work:
And here are thermal performance regarding orientation (-90° being heat source above condenser):
As you can see, this is close to zero !
I fear that @Philairflow design has vents in the bottom and motherboard flipped. But even with motherboard oriented the good way, you'll be facing the lack of vents due to the keyboard.
Could you like industrial briefcase style or not, they are still superior in many ways:
- They take less desktop space
- They are easier to carry (handle and rugged)
- They have better cooling
- They provide a usable keyboard
Now ..... I like the vertical stand version and the second screen it provides.
This looks so cool. A DTR that I can build up myself would be super fun. This one is a serious improvement in terms of handling and aesthetics. Would a Zotac 1080 Ti mini fit in there?
Excellent work! This is damn near close to my dream machine. All it would need is is to use the CIntq Pro's screen for pen support (which, admittedly, is a niche in a niche).
To touch on an earlier point, a detachable keyboard wouldn't necessarily add much thickness if you use something already developed. Check out he Novena Heirloom, which uses the Bluetooth Thinkpad keyboard (scroll down a bit): https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena
It would you the flexibility to either use it like a laptop, or pop the keyboard out and spin the screen around in a more ergonomic way.
Maybe something like this is an option. But there is no need to ru
sh the keyboard question. This project will anyway take some time. And the keyboard is a very important part of the user experience. That is why I made it with an ergonomic angle and planned to build in a good keyboard that was tested thousand times like the keyboards of the dell precisions which I am using. And there seem to be issues with that Lenovo keyboard if you read some reviews and user ratings.
Tourning the screen should be an option when you use a real mechanical keyboard for hours. But I see your point and I will gladly discuss this further.
BTW I am pretty addicted to this project now. But this is free time stuff and my free time is rare. So I think I have to at least pause my Project Vertical for now. Two free time projects are for sure too much. No need to even try.
Looks absolutely brilliant. This form factor might turn out to be the natural evolution of SFF: balancing between true portability (which laptops have) and customizability (which desktops have).
So here is the promised picture of the internal build-up. A more detailed model is the next step.
Cooling should be pretty good now. I managed to integrate 2 x 90 mm fans for air-intake. They are mounted on an angle-shroud. So the fans can take air from the front and bottom. The increased intake area will provide higher airflow and less noise. The angle also will direct the airflow to the cpu cooler.
3 x 60 mm fans with 25 mm thickness on the backside will blow warm air out of the chassis. The airflow is lead directly over the gpu.
I think with this cooling setup quiet operation under load should be possible.
The box in the right corner is a placeholder for the HDPLEX, LCD Controller, SSD's and Sound.
Thanks. I agree with the keyboard, since they are not standardized (I like the dell notebook keyboards, they would be an option here).
But I disagree on the display. These are pretty standardized and it will be easy to replace. Just some screws. I like easy replacement so this will not be a glued toegether apple machine
This cooling solution seems pretty potent when you think about the size of that base unit. What volume is this? 6 litre? What is the max cpu cooler height in this version?
What is that gpu? The never released Vega Nano
Considering this case/machine setup won't likely be cheap and targeted at those who know and appreciate computers and its components, I suggest just go full blown mechanical keyboard. That way the keycaps are replaceable, fitting with the overall concept of a full-customizable notebook.
Now we need a 40% keyboard version.
Some changes:
- Vents above the keyboard for better cooling
- A keyboard with a keypad
- I removed the feet on the backside and added a sag with small rubber feet. This way I won another 5 mm
While working on the cooling system I noticed something great:
With small AIO pumps that have removable fitting connections like the new Alphacool Eisbaer LT there will be watercooling in this case!!!
So all i would need is:
- A pump like this
- 120 mm radiator with 25 mm thickness
- 90 degree fittings
- A slim fan
In terms of internal layout I only have to switch sides for the fans and the electronic part. So fans/radiator will be on the right side infront of gpu. I will make a model and pictures.
The case can almost stay the same. But I have to add vent-holes on the right side of the mousepad for radiator air-in. I think that is an ok tradeoff for watercolling in here.