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Power Supply HDPLEX 400W DC-ATX

VitoHGrind

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Literally the exact face that I made lol! This thing looks amazing!

Also for anyone wondering on price, I know it's not confirmed yet, but when I asked last Larry week about it, he said that pre-orders will go for the same price as the 300W unit. May have a hike on the standard production units, but unsure at the moment.
 
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xcrco

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yup got an answer as well.


-pre orders are same price with the 300w
-msrp is around 90$
-optimized for s4
-for june release

so if I have a 330w dell brick will it have issue? since its a 400w? sorry not really technical with these kinds of things -.-

I'm only planning to use this for a 1070mini + normal cpu like 85w..
 

CubanLegend

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Correct, this card is EXACTLY the reason why we're all so excited about the HDPLEX-400!

This 1080 Ti Mini, is also why you might be getting some large number of US customers too, if any S4 Mini customers decide to upgrade to the 1080 Ti, they will be looking for an S4-mini compatible DC-DC 400W unit, and the AC-DC 400W Modded power brick from you. :D
 
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VitoHGrind

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so if I have a 330w dell brick will it have issue? since its a 400w? sorry not really technical with these kinds of things -.-

I'm only planning to use this for a 1070mini + normal cpu like 85w..

I dunno. I'm in the exact same boat though. I suppose we just wouldn't be able to use up to the max of the psu. When we talked, Larry said he wasn't planning on releasing a 400w AC-DC unit as 300w was about the limit of passive cooling, but I'm pretty sure @guryhwa has something to say about that. I think he has some modded power bricks that could easily do 400W.
 

BeerNsoup

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yup got an answer as well.


-pre orders are same price with the 300w
-msrp is around 90$
-optimized for s4
-for june release

so if I have a 330w dell brick will it have issue? since its a 400w? sorry not really technical with these kinds of things -.-

I'm only planning to use this for a 1070mini + normal cpu like 85w..

I believe you should be fine with the dell 330w brick. If you do unrealistic usage stress testing/benchmarks you may get into trouble. For gaming or other non stress test stuff you should be good unless you get into overclocking (which given cooler limitations of the s4 might not be overly viable anyway). Systems usually tend to use significantly less than the rated power draw of each component. Someone else more knowledgeable will probably chime in so dont take my word as gospel, but I think you'd be fine (there are several 7700k + 1070 s4 mini builds around here using the hdplex+330w brick that seem to run great).
 
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GentlemanShark

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Pinouts should be exactly the same.



I'm going to be doing a custom enclosure using the HDPlex 300W AC-DC to show how it can be used as a brick for the S4. While the rated wattage is lower, it actually has much better capacity than the 330W Dell to handle spiking and overcurrent. I've been running it with the Zotac 1080 and 7700K running Furmark GPU Bench and Prime95 Blender respectively and it's able to ALMOST handle that. Considering those two benchmarks together draw considerably more power that a real-world use scenario, the unit should be able to handle the 1080ti combo. It should also be a significant bit smaller and lighter than the Dell.
Darn, that was my idea as well.
 

jeshikat

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as 300w was about the limit of passive cooling

It'd be the limits of the form factor HDPLEX uses, obviously higher wattage is possible with a much larger brick for more heatsinking.
 

msystems

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Can someone confirm the final dimensions as 51.5mm x 160mm x 25mm?
And do the plug locations match the picture that was posted above?
 

Kmpkt

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Official word from Larry at HDPlex is that it is 10mm longer without any alteration to height or width. About as official as you can get right now.
 
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Official word from Larry at HDPlex is that it is 10mm longer without any alteration to height or width. About as official as you can get right now.
This is a problem I have with trying to support HDPlex (or internal AC-DC in general) - there's no standards. It makes it hard to design a chassis where the PSU mounting holes could be in different places, and the size changes between units. This is why I prefer flexATX. If HDPlex (or whomever) designed their AC-DC PSUs to be compatible with the flexATX standard mounting holes and dimensions, that would make things a lot easier. The downside is you might give up some space savings in the process.

edit: come to think of it, it might be neat to have an AC-DC PSU that conformed to SFX mounting/dimensions, too. Something like 125 x 63.5 x 40mm.
 
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GentlemanShark

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This is a problem I have with trying to support HDPlex (or internal AC-DC in general) - there's no standards. It makes it hard to design a chassis where the PSU mounting holes could be in different places, and the size changes between units. This is why I prefer flexATX. If HDPlex (or whomever) designed their AC-DC PSUs to be compatible with the flexATX standard mounting holes and dimensions, that would make things a lot easier. The downside is you might give up some space savings in the process.

edit: come to think of it, it might be neat to have an AC-DC PSU that conformed to SFX mounting/dimensions, too. Something like 125 x 63.5 x 40mm.
How would that work? Isn't flexATX like this:

While AC-DC units are much smaller?
 

Kmpkt

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It'd be the same height and width as the Flex unit, but a fraction of the length.
 

Necere

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How would that work? Isn't flexATX like this:

While AC-DC units are much smaller?
My bad - I thought this thread was about the AC-DC for some reason. The DC-DC solutions aren't any more standardized, though at least there are units like the PicoPSU, where mounting isn't an issue.
 

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edit: come to think of it, it might be neat to have an AC-DC PSU that conformed to SFX mounting/dimensions, too. Something like 125 x 63.5 x 40mm.

I agree! A solution like would be pretty awesome, especially in a uber compact case like @K888D chassis, the LZ7 (picture courtesy of @Phuncz , build here). If we had a solution like that available, Phuncz could have used a larger HSF. I know @guryhwa has done that before with the 400watt DC-SFX unit but I haven't come across the option to buy one. A DC-Flex version would be even cooler!


I would love to see a ~500w THIN-SFX or THIN-FLEX version of the THIN-ATX unit he made although @Kmpkt solution sounds like it will offer the same functionality in an even smaller package (if I am understanding it correctly).


In regards to SFX mounting/dimensions, the 500W SFX design he made comes pretty damn close. (source)


Huge thanks to @guryhwa @hdplex @Kmpkt and all the other players for providing massive innovations to the PSU market for SFF enthusiasts.
 

Kmpkt

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Personally I'd like to see common mounting points, a maximum bounding box for the DC-DC unit and something similar for AC-DC units. Would be nice if they were specced to additively occupy the space of an SFX or Flex ATX so they would be easily adaptable to cases with that space already allotted for a standard sized unit.
 

3lfk1ng

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Well, if I am to be perfectly honest, all of the SFF PSU players are quite active on this forum and unlike those large corporations, you're all very friendly and working hard to contribute to this niche industry.

Perhaps this would be a perfect opportunity to somehow establish contact and work with one another to come up with an industry standard format for SFF PSUs.

If the SFF enthusiasts were offered a standard mounting point or a set of standard dimensions, all the current/future case designers (on our forums) could be built to specifically accommodate that exact format.

As an added bonus, if the mounting points were standardized, someone (you? Larry?) could sell SFX adapter plates for users that want a Dynamo/HDPlex in a case that only supports SFX.
 
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msystems

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There is no change in height or width of this unit when compared to V3. The only change in dimensions is the length which is 10mm longer. Also the 8 pin EPS and 8 pin PCIe plugs have been changed for better cable routing. The EPS is now on the far left of the board with the SATA 4 pin and the 8 pin PCIe is to the immediate left of the 24 pin ATX cable so it is closer to where the GPU should be (especially in the S4 mini). The layout on this unit is pretty much ideal for S4 builders now.

I looked at the picture but I just don't get what you're saying.

Is this right?