Production FormD T1 Classic (V1.0 and V1.1) READ FIRST POST

[grinny]

Finally managed to finalize (kind of) my first water cooling build, thanks to everyone in this topic.

@fabio Mad respect for your work, it really is tight space man!

Few things to correct before calling it finished. (If it ever finishes?)

To do list;

1. I guess I still have air pocket in the pump, since I hear running water sounds from time to time. (I guess I will get a cheap reservoir and try to push out/put more liquid with it.)
2. Get an offset adapter or 45 degree elbow for rad entrance. Now the tube is connected directly to rad, and it has light kink.
3. Get the pump cables sleeved.
4. Get an NVME drive
5. Although PSU cables don't bother me too much, I'll probably get custom thinner cables soon.
6. I'm thinking about getting another 90 degree turn for the right bottom corner. (Holding on to this idea, since I might use risers to push PSU to the side cover for better cable management)
7. Get a new gen two slot GPU so I can close the other lid☺ Hopefully with water block attached ?

Here are some shots of my case;

 

[laplamgor]

Nope, This is impossible in any case! The only way is to use a Pump/CPU block combo! The good things of the shorter GPU block is that you can also use a full pump and reservoir vertically!

I mean, at least for the DDC. Maybe using the SPC can work!!

What if replacing ddc with dual 3600 dc-lt pump? That Alphacool Plexi top im using is only 37mm in thickness

 

[fabio]

What if replacing ddc with dual 3600 dc-lt pump? That Alphacool Plexi top im using is only 37mm in thickness

Well, the SPC is 35mm, so even thinner...

 

[laplamgor]

Well, the SPC is 35mm, so even thinner...

But the Alphacool Plexi top has all side ports you need. ?

I did manage to put the dual DC-LT next to the top TX240, well, with power cord and power button relocated to elsewhere.

 

[ciaran clare]

EK SE Classic or XSPC TX240

Sorry in advance (i know its repeated a lot) But out of these two radiator which is the best when considering fitment, thermals and noise

EK SE Classic : I understand that the EK SE classic is the exact clearance above mobo so their could be fitment issue, in practice has anyone actually had any issues with this
XSPC TX240 : Higher FPI so potentially requires higher speed on fans and slightly wider so potential fitment issues, again, has anyone actually had any actually had any issues getting it into the case and is the higher FPI actually an issue?

 

[fabio]

But the Alphacool Plexi top has all side ports you need. ?

I did manage to put the dual DC-LT next to the top TX240, well, with power cord and power button relocated to elsewhere.

Ahahahah, if you know me, I don’t need ports, I will find them anyway ??

 

[stanleyguan]

So, I've tried to see IF the SPC can allow a TX240 on the GPU side, but, 99.5%, is a NO!

It’s weird. Because mine fit.

 

[DrHudacris]

EK SE Classic or XSPC TX240

Sorry in advance (i know its repeated a lot) But out of these two radiator which is the best when considering fitment, thermals and noise

EK SE Classic : I understand that the EK SE classic is the exact clearance above mobo so their could be fitment issue, in practice has anyone actually had any issues with this
XSPC TX240 : Higher FPI so potentially requires higher speed on fans and slightly wider so potential fitment issues, again, has anyone actually had any actually had any issues getting it into the case and is the higher FPI actually an issue?

These 2 are pretty close. The TX has slightly better perforamce (1-2 degrees IIRC), but can fit a third fan pretty easily, so difference might open up more.

Update on fan mods: this is how I did it, pretty easy.


And I have tried the Arctic P12, unfortunately, also hitting critical temps:

 

[hetvler]

Serious question: why are you people custom looping your CPU and GPU into the same 240rad?

Don't take this as calling you guys dumb or anything i absolutely admire your dedication and skill - I've never custom looped so i'm definitely intimidated to try it, but in my extremely inexperienced and probably smooth brained view wouldn't 240 rad in 3slot mode with the biggest card you can fit lead to better thermals and temps? more radiator and fans = more better right?

What am i missing here? educate me.

I know huda has like 2 2080s in SLI or some shit so I get it in that use case but other than that, am I wrong?

 

[wenyuax]

BTW, The Reference Card RTX3080/90 Blocks from EKWB, with the RGB shit, are ONLY 230mm long! This means we will have a LOT of space to play for other stuff!!
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Hi @fabio which card do you plan to buy? Seems like FE card is different from the reference card so I think we need to find a 3rd party GPU with the reference PCB.

 

[Navic]

Serious question: why are you people custom looping your CPU and GPU into the same 240rad?

Don't take this as calling you guys dumb or anything i absolutely admire your dedication and skill - I've never custom looped so i'm definitely intimidated to try it, but in my extremely inexperienced and probably smooth brained view wouldn't 240 rad in 3slot mode with the biggest card you can fit lead to better thermals and temps? more radiator and fans = more better right?

What am i missing here? educate me.

I know huda has like 2 2080s in SLI or some shit so I get it in that use case but other than that, am I wrong?

Depending on the components you choose, you can cool everything with a single 240mm rad, and you would get better thermals (especially for the GPU) and noise levels compared to a 240 rad and a 3 slot GPU. Also, I think some people go over the top just because they can (Dr. Hudacris for example)
For most people, a 240mm AIO and a 3 slot GPU will probably be just fine in terms of cooling, but for those that want the absolute best, they might go full custom watercooling.

 

[wenyuax]

Serious question: why are you people custom looping your CPU and GPU into the same 240rad?

Don't take this as calling you guys dumb or anything i absolutely admire your dedication and skill - I've never custom looped so i'm definitely intimidated to try it, but in my extremely inexperienced and probably smooth brained view wouldn't 240 rad in 3slot mode with the biggest card you can fit lead to better thermals and temps? more radiator and fans = more better right?

What am i missing here? educate me.

I know huda has like 2 2080s in SLI or some shit so I get it in that use case but other than that, am I wrong?

I think you are talking about the 240AIO + 3-slot GPU configuration.
My opinion is, the thermal performance may not be as well as what you think it should be. And custom loop has the extreme flexibility and possibility to give you the better performance.
Maybe 3 more fans on GPU yields better thermal performance. But you need to know that all heat is dissipated into the case, which needs to be exhausted by the top fans. That means your CPU will not be cooled sufficiently.
In addition, custom loop takes the advantage that it's deadly silent. You only get two fans and a pump, which is much more silent than a 240AIO + 3-slot GPU.
Also, custom loop is much stronger than you think. At least it's better than an AIO with the same radiator size. With some tweaking (Undervolting and maybe decreasing the frequency a little), a 240 custom loop can really do most things.
About it's possibility, I'm also planning to build a custom loop and I've already got a feasible plan to have much larger size of radiator in T1 (Maybe 240 + 280 or at least dual 240). With that you can overclock both a 3950x and a 3090 to the almost highest point. That's what only custom loop can provide in a case small like this.

 

[wenyuax]

Thank you.

I finally installed the fansssss.

Cable management is a disaster. It is definitely not as clean as fabio's tx120 ( ? ).
Ran a quick test and got 3~4C improvement @30% PWM (~3k RPM, which has similar noise level of full speed a12x15)
Will have more tests when I have time.



The other side is still good.

Hi @laplamgor
I've seen your build from reddit and just found that your are here!
I have a question about your custom transparent side panel. I'm curious about how it is mounted onto the case. I'm also planning to order a side panel, for both good looking and blocking air from passing through the CPU side (Yes I want this side to be sealed). So does your panel seal the CPU side well?

 

[fabio]

It’s weird. Because mine fit.

Oh; that’s nice!! Then if you have a GPU without the 8k display port, it could work!
Do it! ?

 

[laplamgor]

Hi @laplamgor
I've seen your build from reddit and just found that your are here!
I have a question about your custom transparent side panel. I'm curious about how it is mounted onto the case. I'm also planning to order a side panel, for both good looking and blocking air from passing through the CPU side (Yes I want this side to be sealed). So does your panel seal the CPU side well?

I just use double sided taps on the top and bottom.

It is sealed for 3 edges only. The back panel of the case is not touching the TG panel. There is a small gap for the thickness of the oem mesh panel.

 

[wenyuax]

I just use double sided taps on the top and bottom.

It is sealed for 3 edges only. The back panel of the case is not touching the TG panel. There is a small gap for the thickness of the oem mesh panel.

Well I think that's enough and I'm considering ordering an acrylic board. I think that fits well. Thank you!

 

[PKAWA]

Has anybody shortened the power cable inside the case? I've inverted it and would like to but can't find a new low profile plug to fit the psu

 

[wenyuax]

2020-09-05: Window Side Panels soothes RGB addiction!

Just received Tempered Glass Side Panel prototype, damaged during transit and bit of glue spill, but still worth sharing.

Is there an expected release date for the glass panel?

 

[gwertheim]

Is there an expected release date for the glass panel?

Right now Q4 or 2021

WHILE IT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY, THERMALS WILL SUFFER

 

[wenyuax]

Right now Q4 or 2021

WHILE IT MIGHT LOOK PRETTY, THERMALS WILL SUFFER

For my build, I do need the CPU side to be not ventilated lol. If that panel was not released when I start building I'll use PVC sheet to seal the CPU side panel first.