Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

[bynio]

That thing looks really tall. It might fit without the cover though and that extra piece that is in between the pump and the pump top but i don't think you can use it without them. I think it will be too tall to flip on its side which is generally the shorter position. If you have 63mm left after the GPU you can probably make it work. Just need to make sure that the inlet you want to use won't be in the way of the gpu which it shouldn't be. The inlet is on the left side when facing the gpu. Not sure which outlet to use in that scenario though. I wish alphacool would get it together. I didn't personally have any issues with the stuff i've had from them but you aren't the only one in this thread to have issues.

If you want to give alphacool one last time this top is full brass and @DrHudacris has used it as well. I have the acrylic version and had no issues with it. It will serve the same purpose that the bitspower one, also it's the same dimensions, does buy giving you multiple in/outs but it's totally understandable if you wouldn't want to try it.

Alphacool Eisdecke DCC brass top - deep black

Quiet, strong and spectacular! The Alphacool Eisdecke Plexi is the perfect pump top to take your pump to the next stage.

www.performance-pcs.com

I was about to ask if anyone had experience with that top. Magic Cube doesn't seem to be available where I'm at.

Yep, I just had an order from Bitspower arrive (magic cube and a temperature stop fitting). 7 days, FedEx from Taiwan to Australia. Better than EMS!

Any serious shipping costs? To EU will probably be more anyway.

 

[DrHudacris]

Can anyone recommend a ddc pump?

I think @fabio like the DDC 1T plus model.

I was about to ask if anyone had experience with that top. Magic Cube doesn't seem to be available where I'm at.


Any serious shipping costs? To EU will probably be more anyway.

I ordered like 6 fittings and it was 15 USD or so. It's weight based. You can check it in the website. Just make your cart and go thru checkout. It'll give you the shipping cost and stuff before you submit order.

 

[thelaughingman]

If you want to give alphacool one last time this top is full brass and @DrHudacris has used it as well. I have the acrylic version and had no issues with it. It will serve the same purpose that the bitspower one, also it's the same dimensions, does buy giving you multiple in/outs but it's totally understandable if you wouldn't want to try it.

Alphacool Eisdecke DCC brass top - deep black

Quiet, strong and spectacular! The Alphacool Eisdecke Plexi is the perfect pump top to take your pump to the next stage.

www.performance-pcs.com

That brass DDC top is almost half a kilo heavy! Just be wary how and where you mount it...it will need extra reinforcement rather than being suspended by fittings IMO. (I did not personally try it for that reason, but it will fit physically)

damn, that is one heavy boi! I want it, but I must resist! remind myself Freeflow and distro plate will be available in 2021 ? ? ?

 

[pwnedundies]

I was about to ask if anyone had experience with that top. Magic Cube doesn't seem to be available where I'm at.


Any serious shipping costs? To EU will probably be more anyway.

i have the acrylic version of the brass top and it worked flawlessly. it also has rgb for the peeps that need it.

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It's actually boxed up because I was testing my ablility to put a full tube size res in my build. Which I was able to do with a pulse rx 5700 xt but I'm not ready to try it in the T1. I think when I learn how to do hard tubing runs it will actually be easier (if that even makes sense). The TPV tubing is great because it prevents kinks but it's very rigid to build with, which is necessary. I had to have an odd "S" bend to do it and I'm not sure I can accomplish it in the T1 yet or not.

 

[carlosjtacon]

I found out today on reddit that this case only supports the L12S on one direction. So if you use the case flipped then the CPU cooler will be bad positioned according to what noctua recommends.

I’ve been trying to find opinions about this but didn’t find much, so I’m asking just in case anyone knows if it is better having the case flipped despite this or having it defaultwith the good position of the L12S but the case fans on the bottom.

 

[TSOF]

Un-flipped will give your intake fans more resistance.

On the GTS240 - I've got the width sorted - now need to sort out the thickness. I could probably close the top with the fans in, but it will flex somewhat.
I want to avoid that if at all possible - so I'm gonna have to resort to some slightly more major surgery. By removing a lot of the fan mounting plate (with a dremel) I think I can gain about 3mm clearance!

 

[carlosjtacon]

I found out today on reddit that this case only supports the L12S on one direction. So if you use the case flipped then the CPU cooler will be bad positioned according to what noctua recommends.

I’ve been trying to find opinions about this but didn’t find much, so I’m asking just in case anyone knows if it is better having the case flipped despite this or having it defaultwith the good position of the L12S but the case fans on the bottom.

I don't know how to edit the post but this is what I mean:

 

[robojim]

Is it that way due to weight or what?

 

[DrHudacris]

Is it that way due to weight or what?

It's due to heatpipes. The liquid in the heatpipes won't be able to reach the hot part of the heatsink upside down like that. I guess the wicking action can't fight gravity.

 

[hprantis]

I don't know how to edit the post but this is what I mean:

I have the alpenfohn black ridge and I did not notice any difference in temps under load in either orientation.

 

[x111]

What AMD AM4 cpu waterblock would you suggest ?
especially interested in the latest and greatest that "fabio" is using.

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[pwnedundies]

What AMD AM4 cpu waterblock would you suggest ?
especially interested in the latest and greatest that "fabio" is using.

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if you don't have budget here ya go

EK Quantum Magnitude - EK's ultimate CPU water block | EKWB.com

EK Quantum Magnitude CPU water block brings the highest performance for CPUs with Intel 1151, 2011, 2066, AMD AM4 and other sockets. Magnitude leads the way in cooling capacity while offering various material, color, and lighting options.

www.ekwb.com

 

[madmax]

Their QC is bad..

I really must disagree. I have already had several radiators from Alphacool and there was nothing wrong with the quality.

 

[Psyduck91]

I don't know how to edit the post but this is what I mean:

I have the L12S with the B450-i and can confirm that in the flipped overientation, the only way it will fit is to have the heatpipes facing down. Temperatures have been ok so far with the 3600. Max is in the mid 60s.

I think this is due to the positioning of the socket of the motherboard. I recall someone from the reddit thread mentioned this.

 

[fabio]

Can anyone recommend a ddc pump?

DDC 1t plus PMW!

 

[SoSquidTaste]

So, watercooling newbie question.

I'm reviewing build logs using the Eisstation DC-LT 40 (e.g. @fabio early build, OptimumTech, etc.). Is there a specific reason for purely using extenders rather than short tubing runs in segments like, for example, in between the Eisstation and the radiator? I know that it adds rigid structure with the screw-in hard extenders, but is there any specific risks involved with, or reasons why I couldn't just put in a (short) tubing run with straight connectors instead?

 

[DrHudacris]

So, watercooling newbie question.

I'm reviewing build logs using the Eisstation DC-LT 40 (e.g. @fabio early build, OptimumTech, etc.). Is there a specific reason for purely using extenders rather than short tubing runs in segments like, for example, in between the Eisstation and the radiator? I know that it adds rigid structure with the screw-in hard extenders, but is there any specific risks involved with, or reasons why I couldn't just put in a (short) tubing run with straight connectors instead?

Can you do it? Yes. Will you regret it? Possibly.

With a tube run that short, if it were straight, then it wouldn't make a difference. But the outlet of the pump/res and the inlet of the radiator isn't going to be perfectly aligned (at least I haven't come across a radiator with perfect alignment that also allows the under PSU fan spot to be open). So you'll end up having to space the pump/res further from the radiator, potentially causing conflict with the top panel or you have such tight bends in the tube that you kink them or have the pump/res stick out the side.

 

[worldtour]

These likely don't perform well but I found these 17mm thin radiators if anyone is interested.

Taobao shop

 

[SoSquidTaste]

Can you do it? Yes. Will you regret it? Possibly.

With a tube run that short, if it were straight, then it wouldn't make a difference. But the outlet of the pump/res and the inlet of the radiator isn't going to be perfectly aligned (at least I haven't come across a radiator with perfect alignment that also allows the under PSU fan spot to be open). So you'll end up having to space the pump/res further from the radiator, potentially causing conflict with the top panel or you have such tight bends in the tube that you kink them or have the pump/res stick out the side.

Ah, I forgot about the alignment of that res-pump unit where the inlet and outlet ports aren't coaxial with one another. That makes sense. Thanks Huda!

Question: You're still on a TX240, right? I forget if you were ever on the DC-LT 40 as well though. If so, do you happen to remember the fittings to build that extender run?

 

[DrHudacris]

Ah, I forgot about the alignment of that res-pump unit where the inlet and outlet ports aren't coaxial with one another. That makes sense. Thanks Huda!

Question: You're still on a TX240, right? I forget if you were ever on the DC-LT 40 as well though. If so, do you happen to remember the fittings to build that extender run?

I am using the 1U ES DDC res. With the TX240 you need 2x offset fittings (bitspower across and barrow makes them too) and 1 rotary male to male connector. Right now, I am switching to bitspower leviathan, and for that the same fittings will work also, but just barely. I think a dual rotary 90 degree fitting would work better.

These likely don't perform well but I found these 17mm thin radiators if anyone is interested.

Taobao shop

Very interesting! This could've been automatic end game radiator if it didn't have such low FPI and what looks like very few water tubes...this paired with 2x A12x25 with basically a thinner TX240 would easily beat any other combo, I would bet.

Edit: I still want one ?