Prototyping DAN HSLP-48: A powerful sub 50mm heatsink

PantherB

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I have an asrock fatal1ty b350i, according to their page it will accept ECC ram for some cpu's. But it doesn't say if it will for Pinnacle Ridge (2700x). But I think it will. This is good news. :)
Thanks!!
I have the same mobo and bought the ram from the UK eBay reseller, works perfect.
 

PantherB

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Can all 3700x users with a black ridge+120mm fan share which mobo they are using?
I have a ASRock b350 gaming itx and I don't have to mod the vrm heatsinks. Is there a compatibility list for this thing with a 120mm fan?
 
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Van0

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Mar 29, 2019
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Can all 3700x users with a black ridge+120mm fan share which mobo they are using?
I have a ASRock b350 gaming itx and I don't have to mod the vrm heatsinks. Is there a compatibility list for this thing with a 120mm fan?
Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI - Also allows for hard riser to be installed as there is enough clearance in the PCI-e slot. Not sure about most GPUs, due to backplate.

Regarding the RAM mentioned on previous page. It is ECC un-registered. Most motherboards support un-registered RAM, just double check the product descriptions as mentioned to make sure it's compatible.
 

Hellow

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How do you mount a slim 120mm on the black ridge?

With my Noctua A12x15 it causes a weird rattle sound. The fan seems to touch the holes of the 92mm screws. I ended up by attaching it using one of the 92mm screw.
 

Van0

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How do you mount a slim 120mm on the black ridge?

With my Noctua A12x15 it causes a weird rattle sound. The fan seems to touch the holes of the 92mm screws. I ended up by attaching it using one of the 92mm screw.
Yeah I'm not sure why they thought having those 4 holes stick out 1-2mm was a good idea. My A12x15 does not touch the two closest to the PCIe slot, so I just left them but I ended up taking my Dremel to the other two so it would sit more flush against the heatsink. It's a very niche and fiddly product that's for certain.
 

rapidshrub

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Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI - Also allows for hard riser to be installed as there is enough clearance in the PCI-e slot. Not sure about most GPUs, due to backplate.
I can confirm that the Aorus B450i works with the Black ridge and a GPU with a backplate installed directly in the pcie slot. However it does make slight contact with the back of the card. I wouldn't install a GPU without a backplate in this setup out of fear that the Black ridge would cause a short.

I also have a MSI B450i on hand that I'm going to test the Black ridge on whenever I receive my new case.
 

ppding

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Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI - Also allows for hard riser to be installed as there is enough clearance in the PCI-e slot. Not sure about most GPUs, due to backplate.

Regarding the RAM mentioned on previous page. It is ECC un-registered. Most motherboards support un-registered RAM, just double check the product descriptions as mentioned to make sure it's compatible.
In terms of memory overclocking. How high can you push the frequency for your b die innodisk vlp ddr4. I ordered the same memory sticks today from the UK seller and I believe those are dual rank 16g sticks. Arent they?
 

Van0

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In terms of memory overclocking. How high can you push the frequency for your b die innodisk vlp ddr4. I ordered the same memory sticks today from the UK seller and I believe those are dual rank 16g sticks. Arent they?
Yeah that sounds like the same ones I have. I tried using the DRAM calculator for the subtimings and such but it led to me having to clear BIOS. I'm currently stable at 3200MHz 17-18-18-18-35 and will probably just leave it there for the time being.
 

BaK

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How do you mount a slim 120mm on the black ridge?
With my Noctua A12x15 it causes a weird rattle sound. The fan seems to touch the holes of the 92mm screws. I ended up by attaching it using one of the 92mm screw.
Yeah I'm not sure why they thought having those 4 holes stick out 1-2mm was a good idea. My A12x15 does not touch the two closest to the PCIe slot, so I just left them but I ended up taking my Dremel to the other two so it would sit more flush against the heatsink. It's a very niche and fiddly product that's for certain.

They probably had to do it that way because the metal plate is too thin to have enough threads on the hole for the screw to catch on.
So dremeling them (or using a simple metal file) will likely stop you for using them again.

Maybe offsetting the fan with the provided clips along with some plastic washers on the fan corners could work, but I don't own this cooler...
 

Poblopuablo

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Yeah that sounds like the same ones I have. I tried using the DRAM calculator for the subtimings and such but it led to me having to clear BIOS. I'm currently stable at 3200MHz 17-18-18-18-35 and will probably just leave it there for the time being.
What is the product sku on your sticks? Is it M4U0-8GS1VCIK
 

ppding

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Yeah that sounds like the same ones I have. I tried using the DRAM calculator for the subtimings and such but it led to me having to clear BIOS. I'm currently stable at 3200MHz 17-18-18-18-35 and will probably just leave it there for the time being.
Yeah that sounds like the same ones I have. I tried using the DRAM calculator for the subtimings and such but it led to me having to clear BIOS. I'm currently stable at 3200MHz 17-18-18-18-35 and will probably just leave it there for the time being.
It's a bit disappointing for B die tbh maybe cos its dual rank stick. What DRAM voltage is applied when they are stable at 3200 c17? Have you tried to increase the voltage a bit more to around 1.4 to 1.45 as B die favours slightly higher voltage if cooling is not an issue because of the down draft cooler. It will be perfect if 3600 c16 is acheivable as its the sweet spot for Ryzen system.
 

Van0

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What is the product sku on your sticks? Is it M4U0-8GS1VCIK
No, mine is M4C0-AGS1TCSJ. I believe your product is the 8GB sticks, whereas the ones I got are the 16GB models.

It's a bit disappointing for B die tbh maybe cos its dual rank stick. What DRAM voltage is applied when they are stable at 3200 c17?
I'm running 1.45V at the moment but I haven't tried changing any of the timings yet since swapping from my Intel system. 3200MHz was the sweep spot for Intel if I recall? I'll see what I can do this weekend with manual adjustments and report back. Hopefully not too many resets required!
 

Legion

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It's a bit disappointing for B die tbh maybe cos its dual rank stick. What DRAM voltage is applied when they are stable at 3200 c17? Have you tried to increase the voltage a bit more to around 1.4 to 1.45 as B die favours slightly higher voltage if cooling is not an issue because of the down draft cooler. It will be perfect if 3600 c16 is acheivable as its the sweet spot for Ryzen system.
It is NOT B-die !! No one is making VLP sticks or kits from Samsung B-die !!
Headroom as you can see from what's already been posted, is 3200 ish max.
So you either live with that and use the Black Ridge, or swap it out for something that does not restrict ram height and use a B-die kit.
I can tell you from experience if you want a Ryzen 3xxx build you'll gain more from faster ram than the extra boost clock (you may get) from the Black Ridge and 120mm fan.

If you want an Intel build ram speed is far less important !!
 
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NinoPecorino

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It is NOT B-die !! No one is making VLP sticks or kits from Samsung B-die !!
Headroom as you can see from what's already been posted, is 3200 ish max.
So you either live with that and use the Black Ridge, or swap it out for something that does not restrict ram height and use a B-die kit.
I can tell you from experience if you want a Ryzen 3xxx build you'll gain more from faster ram than the extra boost clock (you may get) from the Black Ridge and 120mm fan.

If you want an Intel build ram speed is far less important !!

is innodisk lying?
 
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Legion

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Well I'll be, that's the first time I've seen Innodisk advertise those kits as B-die. I remember when I first considered VLP (2 years ago) this was certainly not the case.
All I can say is that there are varying grades of B-die and these are clearly bottom bin that have no use in overclocking kits and are relegated to server / cheap modules.
Still, 3200mhz is more than we've seen from any other VLP., I'd surmise that to be the top end of what's possible with them though.
I'd still be chosing a different cooler and a good set of B-die from G-skill or Teamgroup !!

If I did want VLP, I wouldn't pay that for sticks with bottom bin modules, there are 16gb sticks of Samsung VLP (non B-die) for £72 on ebay that have been tested in the VLP thread at 3000.

 
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vhannes

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Has anyone looked into x570 compatibility with the cooler using a 120mm fan since the release or would I be better off waiting for b550/buying a previous gen board? Trying to keep the cooler and my vlp ram. In case of previous gen is there a favorite suitable itx board? (Not concerned about pcie 4.0)
 
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PantherB

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You should not forget that the sticks van0 and me are using are 16gb dual ranked sticks, 32gb in total. Dual ranks are not as easy to oc on am4 boards. Plus via dual rank configuration you already gain a sizeable performance boost. I'm content with 3133mhz [email protected],35V and an soc voltage of only 0.965V which decreases CPU temperature a good bit (see my old post in this thread and the vlp thread). I love those sticks in combination with the black ridge
 
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Van0

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Just to confirm, I'm unable to get my sticks stable at 3600MHz until my timings make it perform worse than at 3200Mhz. So I will be leaving it at my previous settings.

I can tell you from experience if you want a Ryzen 3xxx build you'll gain more from faster ram than the extra boost clock (you may get) from the Black Ridge and 120mm fan.
Yeah I'm actually going to check out this later this week. I'm not sure why Thaiphoon burner says the VLP is Samsung B-die but after actually learning about it a bit more, it's either not and reporting wrong, or there's a separate type of B-die, I don't really know. But I've got a l9a + duct and some actual Samsung B-die 3200MHz CL14 RAM on it's way. I'll do some direct comparisons in games and compare the fps. If anyone has any games I particular they'd like me to compare, let me know in a PM.

Edit: Can't get anything stable on the new RAM using the DRAM calculator. Even importing Thaiphoon report is a no go. so I'm currently manually OCing. So the results might take a few more days yet, once I'm able to achieve max stable timings.
 
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